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Reyda

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Feb 20, 2001, 8:43:37 PM2/20/01
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Hi ! some questions about timing...

1 majesty !
my vamp in combat has only one blood left. I know my opponent can play
catatonic fear and inflict him 1 damage. I play Majesty at superior, then
wait for his strike. It is a catatonic, so i decide not to burn blood to
untap (so i don't go to torpor).
I guess this is perfectly legal.

2 Vagabond mystic !
I have a nephandus with only one life left. I recruit a vagabond mystic, and
decide to tap it immediatly to heal the nephandus. since it is not an
action, merely a "tapping" effect, i think it is perfectly legal. what do
you think ?

3 Taste of vitae !
Two vampires are in combat. Vamp a strikes for 2 and inflicts 1 damage with
Carrion crow. Vamp B strikes for 3. No vampires decides to prevent damage.
Then vamp B decides to blur, and declares a strike for 4 hand damage. Can
vampire A now play "Taste of vitae" to gain the 3 blood lost by vamp B
during the preceding pair of strikes ? If not, what prevents him from using
taste at this point, since card text only says "after strike resolution" ?
since he could play "wolf claws" at any time, why shouldn't he play "taste"
after the first strike resolution ?

Each of the preceding examples ocurred in games played tonight.
thanks for your help.

reyda


LSJ

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Feb 20, 2001, 9:50:08 PM2/20/01
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Reyda wrote:

> Hi ! some questions about timing...
>
> 1 majesty !
> my vamp in combat has only one blood left. I know my opponent can play
> catatonic fear and inflict him 1 damage. I play Majesty at superior, then
> wait for his strike. It is a catatonic, so i decide not to burn blood to
> untap (so i don't go to torpor).
> I guess this is perfectly legal.

Sure. Majesty uses "may".


> 2 Vagabond mystic !
> I have a nephandus with only one life left. I recruit a vagabond mystic, and
> decide to tap it immediatly to heal the nephandus. since it is not an
> action, merely a "tapping" effect, i think it is perfectly legal. what do
> you think ?

Sure.


> 3 Taste of vitae !
> Two vampires are in combat. Vamp a strikes for 2 and inflicts 1 damage with
> Carrion crow. Vamp B strikes for 3. No vampires decides to prevent damage.
> Then vamp B decides to blur, and declares a strike for 4 hand damage. Can
> vampire A now play "Taste of vitae" to gain the 3 blood lost by vamp B
> during the preceding pair of strikes ? If not, what prevents him from using
> taste at this point, since card text only says "after strike resolution" ?
> since he could play "wolf claws" at any time, why shouldn't he play "taste"
> after the first strike resolution ?

No. "After strike resolution" means "immediately after".
He could play it after the first blurred strike (assuming he's still
ready, that is).

--
L. Scott Johnson -V:TES NetRep for White Wolf, Inc.
http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes


Reyda

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Feb 20, 2001, 10:03:57 PM2/20/01
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thank you for all.


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Reyda

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Feb 20, 2001, 10:04:49 PM2/20/01
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thank you for all your knowledge.

reyda

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Ian Lee

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Feb 21, 2001, 1:15:03 AM2/21/01
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>> 1 majesty !
>> my vamp in combat has only one blood left. I know my opponent can play
>> catatonic fear and inflict him 1 damage. I play Majesty at superior, then
>> wait for his strike. It is a catatonic, so i decide not to burn blood to
>> untap (so i don't go to torpor).
>> I guess this is perfectly legal.
>
>Sure. Majesty uses "may".

In this particular instance, though, I don't think he can *wait* to see his
opponent's strike before deciding which level to play Majesty at. My
assumption has been that you lock in cards immediately upon playing them, even
before you draw to replace.

LSJ

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Feb 21, 2001, 6:39:55 AM2/21/01
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Ian Lee wrote:
> [uncited quote snipped - please cite the text you quote]

> In this particular instance, though, I don't think he can *wait* to see his
> opponent's strike before deciding which level to play Majesty at. My
> assumption has been that you lock in cards immediately upon playing them, even
> before you draw to replace.

He chooses to play it at superior when it is played, yes.
He then "may" pay a blood to untap when the strike resolves (card text).

--
L. Scott Johnson - V:TES NetRep for White Wolf, Inc.
http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes

Ian Lee

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Feb 21, 2001, 12:10:02 PM2/21/01
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>> In this particular instance, though, I don't think he can *wait* to see his
>> opponent's strike before deciding which level to play Majesty at. My
>> assumption has been that you lock in cards immediately upon playing them,
>even
>> before you draw to replace.
>
>He chooses to play it at superior when it is played, yes.
>He then "may" pay a blood to untap when the strike resolves (card text).

So, any instance of "may" on a strike card is determined when strike resolves?

I don't see where card text has anything to do with it since it doesn't mention
when you may do it.

Is there anything in the rules body that suggests that card decisions aren't
made when the cards are played?

LSJ

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Feb 21, 2001, 12:45:22 PM2/21/01
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Ian Lee wrote:
Re: Majesty "may" usage:

> I don't see where card text has anything to do with it since it doesn't mention
> when you may do it.

Lucky Blow doesn't indicate when the damage is done, either.
The rules, however, specify when the strikes resolve.

--
LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc.
Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules:
http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

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