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LSJ

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Dec 2, 2004, 1:51:56 PM12/2/04
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Here's a list of the functional changes found in the Tenth Anniversary set.

Anneke: Can block even if "[6.2.2.1] Who May Attempt to Block" would
exclude her, just like Eagle's Sight's effect. It doesn't allow the
Methuselah to block with Anneke after declining to block.

Antoinette DuChamp: Celerity actions and combat have increased cost, not a
burn blood side effect. (Note that the new version is misprinted --
swapping capacity for group. Errata: Antoinette is still group 2 and has a
capacity of 1).

Blood Bond: is put into play.

Camille Devereux, The Raven: Is not two different vampires. (1994 Jyhad
version of Camille, 1995 VTES version of Raven, and this card all contest
one another, as they are the same vampire).

Ghoul Escort: is once again only employable by a vampire (The 1995 VTES
version had inadvertently dropped the "All Kindred" designation of the
Jyhad version).

Giovanni Acceptance, Invitation Accepted, Ravnos Acceptance, and Revocation
of Tyre: work on in-play vampires as well as vampires brought into play
later. Sect change is optional, but only choosable when the acceptance
enters play or when the vampire enters play.

Magdalena Schaefer: Thaumaturgy strikes have increased cost, not a burn
blood side effect.

Mariel, Lady Thunder: She inflicts the damage (interesting only for effects
like Memories of Mortality).

Patrizia Giovanni: Retrieval actions have increased cost, not a burn blood
side effect.

Tainted Vitae: is put into play.

Veiled Sight: If the acting vampire has negative stealth, the effect will
raise it to zero.


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LSJ

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Dec 2, 2004, 8:42:06 PM12/2/04
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dancingmummy wrote:
> What if the action's target later changes? Specifically, I have
> Anneke. My predator bleeds me. I bounce the bleeder to my prey, who
> fails to block. Can my Anneke then step in and attempt to block?

When the target changes, all "I don't block" declarations are
forgotten, Anneke or not.

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dancingmummy

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Dec 2, 2004, 8:08:17 PM12/2/04
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"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:<3196efF...@individual.net>...

> Here's a list of the functional changes found in the Tenth Anniversary set.
>
> Anneke: Can block even if "[6.2.2.1] Who May Attempt to Block" would
> exclude her, just like Eagle's Sight's effect. It doesn't allow the
> Methuselah to block with Anneke after declining to block.

What if the action's target later changes? Specifically, I have


Anneke. My predator bleeds me. I bounce the bleeder to my prey, who
fails to block. Can my Anneke then step in and attempt to block?

-Jon

Charles Lechasseur

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Dec 3, 2004, 7:09:39 AM12/3/04
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In article <3196efF...@individual.net>, "LSJ"
<vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote:

>Here's a list of the functional changes found in the Tenth Anniversary set.
>
>Anneke: Can block even if "[6.2.2.1] Who May Attempt to Block" would
>exclude her, just like Eagle's Sight's effect. It doesn't allow the
>Methuselah to block with Anneke after declining to block.

Does that mean that the timing of the Anneke block attempt window is now
the same as that of Eagle's Sight/Falcon's Eye (whereas previously, it was
after those effects)?

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charles lechasseur - da...@novideospamtron.ca

LSJ

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Dec 3, 2004, 8:25:37 AM12/3/04
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"Charles Lechasseur" <da...@novideospamtron.ca> wrote in message
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Luis Duarte

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Dec 3, 2004, 3:12:10 PM12/3/04
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"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:<3196efF...@individual.net>...
> Here's a list of the functional changes found in the Tenth Anniversary set.
>(...)

> Camille Devereux, The Raven: Is not two different vampires. (1994 Jyhad
> version of Camille, 1995 VTES version of Raven, and this card all contest
> one another, as they are the same vampire).

Was this really necessary? Any abuse in sight for Group 1 Gangrel?

(I still don't see here an update to First Strike effects over Dodge...)

Just my opinion.
.- Luis Duarte

LSJ

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Dec 3, 2004, 4:06:53 PM12/3/04
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"Luis Duarte" <luis....@netcabo.pt> wrote in message
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> "LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message
news:<3196efF...@individual.net>...
> > Here's a list of the functional changes found in the Tenth Anniversary
set.
> >(...)
> > Camille Devereux, The Raven: Is not two different vampires. (1994 Jyhad
> > version of Camille, 1995 VTES version of Raven, and this card all
contest
> > one another, as they are the same vampire).
>
> Was this really necessary? Any abuse in sight for Group 1 Gangrel?

It is not necessary to print any more cards at all, ultimately.
The factors involved in printing X led to this result, yes.

> (I still don't see here an update to First Strike effects over Dodge...)

Non Sequitur.
First Strike vs. Dodge is currently in its proper form.
No change is pending or delayed.

salem

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Dec 5, 2004, 2:33:32 AM12/5/04
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On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 13:51:56 -0500, "LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com>
scrawled:

>Here's a list of the functional changes found in the Tenth Anniversary set.
>
>Anneke: Can block even if "[6.2.2.1] Who May Attempt to Block" would
>exclude her, just like Eagle's Sight's effect. It doesn't allow the
>Methuselah to block with Anneke after declining to block.

fair enough.

>Antoinette DuChamp: Celerity actions and combat have increased cost, not a
>burn blood side effect. (Note that the new version is misprinted --
>swapping capacity for group. Errata: Antoinette is still group 2 and has a
>capacity of 1).

the cost thing is good. the misprint sucks. hand up who hates
misprints?

>Blood Bond: is put into play.

sure, why not? I wonder when Praxis Sezures will actually go on the
vampire....

>Camille Devereux, The Raven: Is not two different vampires. (1994 Jyhad
>version of Camille, 1995 VTES version of Raven, and this card all contest
>one another, as they are the same vampire).

in your face, stinky gangrel players!

>Ghoul Escort: is once again only employable by a vampire (The 1995 VTES
>version had inadvertently dropped the "All Kindred" designation of the
>Jyhad version).

boo! you suck! Jake Washington liked his lumpy friends. they kept him
company while they awaited being transformed into War Ghouls (eXXtreme
edition upgrades)

>Giovanni Acceptance, Invitation Accepted, Ravnos Acceptance, and Revocation
>of Tyre: work on in-play vampires as well as vampires brought into play
>later. Sect change is optional, but only choosable when the acceptance
>enters play or when the vampire enters play.

neat and workable.

>Magdalena Schaefer: Thaumaturgy strikes have increased cost, not a burn
>blood side effect.

good consistency!

>Mariel, Lady Thunder: She inflicts the damage (interesting only for effects
>like Memories of Mortality).

but she's still a weather woman from torpor? interesting.

>Patrizia Giovanni: Retrieval actions have increased cost, not a burn blood
>side effect.

and.....? come on! this was where she could actually have become
useful!

>Tainted Vitae: is put into play.

it wasn't before? ok. i think i played one once....

>Veiled Sight: If the acting vampire has negative stealth, the effect will
>raise it to zero.

heh. cute. probably makes for simpler card text, though.

salem
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