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Madman

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Apr 8, 2001, 12:18:19 PM4/8/01
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1) I play a Trap. Combat goes one round, with my opponent using Majesty to
end combat. I play Telepathic Tracking (I presume I can play it even though
there could be said to be an "uncanceled press" from the Trap). Does the
press from Trap carry over? That is, is there an automatic press at the end
of round 2??

And why does Telepathic Tracking have that "uncanceled press" wording,
anyway?


2) Is there a way for a vampire to increase his/her strength permanently?
Perhaps a piece of equipment (like the Hawg, which gives a press), or
perhaps
a "Shadow of the Wolf"-type card or a Master card? I don't know of any, but
thought I'd ask.

Thanks in advance,
Madman

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LSJ

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Apr 8, 2001, 1:01:09 PM4/8/01
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Madman wrote:
>
> 1) I play a Trap. Combat goes one round, with my opponent using Majesty to
> end combat. I play Telepathic Tracking (I presume I can play it even though
> there could be said to be an "uncanceled press" from the Trap). Does the

Trap cannot provide a press until the press step.
Therefore there will be no uncanceled press.

> press from Trap carry over? That is, is there an automatic press at the end
> of round 2??

Yes, since a card (several cards, in fact: Trap, Majesty, Telepathic Tracking) had
been played in the previous round.

> And why does Telepathic Tracking have that "uncanceled press" wording,
> anyway?
>
> 2) Is there a way for a vampire to increase his/her strength permanently?
> Perhaps a piece of equipment (like the Hawg, which gives a press), or
> perhaps
> a "Shadow of the Wolf"-type card or a Master card? I don't know of any, but
> thought I'd ask.

Depravity. Ritual Challenge (for Gangrel). Art of Pain (for Toreador antitribu).

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Roger Carhult

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Apr 8, 2001, 1:21:18 PM4/8/01
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> 1) I play a Trap. Combat goes one round, with my opponent using Majesty
to
> end combat. I play Telepathic Tracking (I presume I can play it even
though
> there could be said to be an "uncanceled press" from the Trap).

Yes you can.

> Does the
> press from Trap carry over? That is, is there an automatic press at the
end
> of round 2??

Yes since combat didn't end.

> And why does Telepathic Tracking have that "uncanceled press" wording,
> anyway?
>

Because if there's a press to continue you shouldn't be able to cycle cards
by playing a TT to continue as well I guess? That kinda goes against the
rule that you cannot play a press to continue if there's already an
uncancelled one played.

> 2) Is there a way for a vampire to increase his/her strength permanently?
> Perhaps a piece of equipment (like the Hawg, which gives a press), or
> perhaps
> a "Shadow of the Wolf"-type card or a Master card? I don't know of any,
but
> thought I'd ask.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Madman

There's a master card called Depravity that does this, for the gangrels
there's a burnable master called Gangrel Revel, and also an action card
called Ritual Challenge. Art of Pain gives + 2 strength for a !Toreador.
Also the Caitiff Smudge gets +1 strength if he commits diablerie.


James Hamblin

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Apr 8, 2001, 2:27:45 PM4/8/01
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Madman wrote:
>
> 1) I play a Trap. Combat goes one round, with my opponent using Majesty to
> end combat. I play Telepathic Tracking (I presume I can play it even though
> there could be said to be an "uncanceled press" from the Trap). Does the
> press from Trap carry over? That is, is there an automatic press at the end
> of round 2??

I'm pretty sure the answer is "yes".

> And why does Telepathic Tracking have that "uncanceled press" wording,
> anyway?

Not sure on that one.

> 2) Is there a way for a vampire to increase his/her strength permanently?
> Perhaps a piece of equipment (like the Hawg, which gives a press), or
> perhaps
> a "Shadow of the Wolf"-type card or a Master card? I don't know of any, but
> thought I'd ask.

Ritual Challenge, Depravity, and Gangrel Revel come to mind. I'm sure
there are others.

James
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ham...@math.wisc.edu

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A million lies to sell yourself is all
you ever had."
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Halcyan 2

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Apr 8, 2001, 7:15:54 PM4/8/01
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>2) Is there a way for a vampire to increase his/her strength permanently?
>Perhaps a piece of equipment (like the Hawg, which gives a press), or
>perhaps
>a "Shadow of the Wolf"-type card or a Master card? I don't know of any, but
>thought I'd ask.

LSJ already mentioned Depravity, Ritual Challenge, and Art of Pain. Mr. Hamblin
also added Gangrel Revel.

In addition, there's also Brujah Debate. And in the special case of Smudge, he
can diablerize for the first time.

Halcyan 2

LSJ

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Apr 8, 2001, 9:05:42 PM4/8/01
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I wouldn't count Brujah Debate or Gangrel revel as permanent, since they both have
built-in burn options.

Depravity and Art of Pain can be burned by contesting, but that leaves them in
the "permanent" class, IMO. And the special case of Smudge, of course, is
permanent.

Roger Carhult

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Apr 8, 2001, 10:45:15 PM4/8/01
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> Halcyan 2 wrote:
> >
> > >2) Is there a way for a vampire to increase his/her strength
permanently?
> > >Perhaps a piece of equipment (like the Hawg, which gives a press), or
> > >perhaps
> > >a "Shadow of the Wolf"-type card or a Master card? I don't know of
any, but
> > >thought I'd ask.
> >
> > LSJ already mentioned Depravity, Ritual Challenge, and Art of Pain. Mr.
Hamblin
> > also added Gangrel Revel.
> >
> > In addition, there's also Brujah Debate. And in the special case of
Smudge, he
> > can diablerize for the first time.
>
> I wouldn't count Brujah Debate or Gangrel revel as permanent, since they
both have
> built-in burn options.

Yeah I agree, but it's hard to know what he meant with permanent since
they're semi-permanent cards (they increase strength outside combat too).

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