Archetyps
seba
magic lately. one thing i noticed that seems to be common amongst
magic formats are archetypes. basicly in any given tournament format
there are a distinct number of decks that are defenatly playable, deck
that when going to a big tournament you will most likely see.
now i understand that this can not be applied to vtes directly. all
editions are playable, its a multiplayer game and the majority of
cards are playable in some way or another. all of this results in a
great number of deck playable in tournaments.
i sure its difficult to predict what decks you could be facing when
going to any tournament where you dont know what people are playing
anyway.
however archetypes do still exist even in vtes. be it malk94,
shambling hords, clowncar ... etc.
what i think could be helpful, especialy for new players would be a
set of primers explaining the buildup, strategy, card choices etc. of
these decks that are knowen to preform well in tournaments. that way
its easy to get to konw several classic decks. it allows new players
to gain some insight on what a deck must be able to do in order to be
tournament worthy and also what kind of decks you will freequently
face.
maybe they could be collected someplace to give people a central spot
for tournament discussion and preparaition.
im sure some people will consider all this totaly unnecercery, i
however think some additional "profesionality" in regards of
tournaments might do the game good.
greatings from germany
Blooded Sand
Resources that already cover this:
thepathofblood.com has an excellent deck discussion area on the
forums, with lots of input and good advice
thelasombra.com has an awesome collection of decks, in fact the whole
Tournament Winning Deck Archive TWDA is housed there
presence.vekn.org had a long thread titled Barbed Wire which dealt
specifically with creating decks for new players from precons. Realise
not quite what you are aiming at but still usefull.
seba
yes i know that there are a lot of recources already arround and they
are mostly quiet excelent for thier specific purpose. however what i
was thinking of was something to get new players ready for thier first
tournament or to inspire older players to try a new deck. i much
enjoed reading magic primers as they give you much more info on the
deck than just a decklist and a few random informations. i dont know
if im knowlegable enough to write a primer myself bt i might give it a
try to show what i mean.
greatings from germany
Blooded Sand
Sounds a lot like what is being done with the VtES podcasts though.
librarian
>
>
> im sure some people will consider all this totaly unnecercery, i
> however think some additional "profesionality" in regards of
> tournaments might do the game good.
>
Have you been talking to Ector?
{jk}
best -
chris
Jakob Sievers
> however archetypes do still exist even in vtes. be it malk94,
> shambling hords, clowncar ... etc.
>
> what i think could be helpful, especialy for new players would be a
> set of primers explaining the buildup, strategy, card choices etc. of
> these decks that are knowen to preform well in tournaments. that way
> its easy to get to konw several classic decks. it allows new players
> to gain some insight on what a deck must be able to do in order to be
> tournament worthy and also what kind of decks you will freequently
> face.
>
> maybe they could be collected someplace to give people a central spot
> for tournament discussion and preparaition.
seba
> http://extrala.blogspot.com/search/label/Deck%20Archetypes
OK ;) thats exactly what i meant ^^ didnt know that existed so just
ignor all i said :P
greatings from germany
jason...@iinet.net.au
Wow, this is an unbelievably great resource for new players.
Massive props to the team behind it. Can't believe I didn't know about
it until now.
jase
Oko
Yes. Extrala rocks.
librarian
Wow, what a great resource. For those who created it, I would love to
see a Clown Car Archetype... And Malk94 (maybe I missed it?)
best -
chris
Salem
> Jakob Sievers wrote:
>> http://extrala.blogspot.com/search/label/Deck%20Archetypes
>
>
> Wow, what a great resource. For those who created it, I would love to
> see a Clown Car Archetype...
there's a breed and boon. isn't that similar?
> And Malk94 (maybe I missed it?)
i am sure there was a stealth and bleed. or maybe it was so obvious they
skipped it. it's definitely referenced in other archetypes though.
There's a few minor errors through the article (implications of golconda
triggering soul gem, "markus vitel" instead of "marcus vitel" so the
secret library link doesn't work, overly painful excessive use of " ",
etc.), but over-all an AMAZINGLY impressive effort. two thumbs up from me.
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salem
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extrala
> librarian wrote:
> > Jakob Sievers wrote:
> >>http://extrala.blogspot.com/search/label/Deck%20Archetypes
>
> > Wow, what a great resource. For those who created it, I would love to
> > see a Clown Car Archetype...
>
> there's a breed and boon. isn't that similar?
2008/03/deck-archetypes-week-of-nightmares.html) which is practially
the same as the Clown Car deck (sans the Unlicensed Taxicabs).
> > And Malk94 (maybe I missed it?)
>
> i am sure there was a stealth and bleed. or maybe it was so obvious they
> skipped it. it's definitely referenced in other archetypes though.
There's the Kindred Spirits deck which is kind of similar, but not the
same. I will make an article on the Malk94 in the near future.
> There's a few minor errors through the article (implications of golconda
> triggering soul gem, "markus vitel" instead of "marcus vitel" so the
> secret library link doesn't work, overly painful excessive use of " ",
> etc.), but over-all an AMAZINGLY impressive effort. two thumbs up from me.
Yeah, there are definetely some errors here and there. Since I write
this in my spare time, this cannot be avoided entirely. But thanks for
the input anyway. I corrected the mistakes you mentioned (especially
the misconception I had about Golconda and Soul Gem), but I guess
there are more errors (in this and other deck descriptions) if you
look more closely.
As for the excessive use of the quotation marks: I use the mainly to
distinguish the game terms/card names, etc. from the rest of the text.
Maybe a personal quirk of mine.
Regards, Ralf
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http://extrala.blogspot.com
seba
exactly what you did.
i'm sure there are several archetyps still missing but hey that ok
after all your not getting payed for it so we can be patien.
there is one thing that bothers me but maybe the prob is on my side of
the internet. cel gun primer is heavyly damage when i try to view it.
only the first 3 or so lines are visible and the rest is blank.
are there not tournament viable brusebleed decks ? i know euro brujah
kind of goes into that sector but its more of a toolbox to me.
so all in all im curious what you will add next, when you have the
time to do so :)
greatings from germany
jason...@iinet.net.au
> this in my spare time, this cannot be avoided entirely.
Mate, it's a fantastic site. A really extraordinary piece of work.
Well done.
jase
jcrossn...@gmail.com
> are there not tournament viable brusebleed decks ? i know euro brujah
> kind of goes into that sector but its more of a toolbox to me.
There really aren't tournament viable bruise bleed (or bruise
anything) decks, so far as I can tell. Letting your prey choose
between losing minions and getting ousted has never been a winning
strategy.
Jesse
jcrossn...@gmail.com
> Jason asked:
>
> > are there not tournament viable brusebleed decks ? i know euro brujah
> > kind of goes into that sector but its more of a toolbox to me.
Sorry about the misattribution. That was Seba, not Jason.