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Chris Brightwell

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Jun 4, 2003, 2:43:05 AM6/4/03
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I've played Magic: The Gathering casually with a few friends since
3rd Edition was out.

The other day, we found a sealed starter box of Jyhad cards at at
garage sale for $3, and bought it without hesitation. We've read through
the rulebook a few times, and grasp the basics of the game. I think.

My question is this -- is there an online tutorial or software
application designed to ease new players into the game? We don't know
*anyone* that plays, and can assume that one starter box will be able to
build two or three fairly decent decks.

Thanks for any help/ideas/thoughts/suggestions.


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hamdamcwa

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Jun 4, 2003, 5:56:37 AM6/4/03
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"Chris Brightwell" <cdb47__D...@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<bbk4lq$9utjf$1...@ID-156512.news.dfncis.de>...

There is / was one at http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes (the current
owners of the game). Give it a whirl! If memory serves, it was a
pretty neat little intro.

Regards
Dave

Jay Kristoff

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Jun 4, 2003, 6:41:09 AM6/4/03
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hamdamcwa wrote:

>There is / was one at http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes
>(the current owners of the game). Give it a whirl! If
>memory serves, it was a pretty neat little intro.

The on-line demo is still there. Appropriately enough it can
be found at: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/demo/

Once the demo reaches it's limit you may want to find real
people to play with. Find local organizers (Princes) here:
http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/veknPrinces.html . Find
players in your area here: http://206.65.59.246/VTES/member.tpl
Good luck! I hope to bleed you one day.

Jay Kristoff; V:EKN Prince of Columbus, Ohio USA


Johannes Walch

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Jun 4, 2003, 7:29:47 AM6/4/03
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> My question is this -- is there an online tutorial or software
> application designed to ease new players into the game? We don't know
> *anyone* that plays, and can assume that one starter box will be able to
> build two or three fairly decent decks.

For the current Set (Camarilla Edition) which can be considered a "basic"
set there are 5 Starters : Malkavian, Toreador, Nosferatu, Ventrue, Tremere.
These are all playable against each other and you can have quite some fun
with them. They can also mix with older Starters from Sabbat War Edition.

If you like the game and want to get more into it try to contact a local
prince (organisators in the worldwide V:EKN player network). There names and
emails can be found somewhere on http://www.white-wolf.com/VTES/

johannes walch
v:ekn germany


Chris Brightwell

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Jun 4, 2003, 7:40:00 AM6/4/03
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"Jay Kristoff" <j...@columbus.rr.com> wrote
> [...]

> Once the demo reaches it's limit you may want to find real
> people to play with. Find local organizers (Princes) here:
> http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/veknPrinces.html . Find
> players in your area here: http://206.65.59.246/VTES/member.tpl

0 results on both lists for Huntsville, AL USA. Thanks, though.

> Good luck! I hope to bleed you one day.

Heh I think we're gonna need all the luck we can get. I'm gonna dig
through the demo tonight when I get home from work -- many thanks.


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LSJ

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Jun 4, 2003, 7:48:36 AM6/4/03
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Johannes Walch wrote:
> For the current Set (Camarilla Edition) which can be considered a "basic"
> set there are 5 Starters : Malkavian, Toreador, Nosferatu, Ventrue, Tremere.

There are six. The five listed above and the Brujah starter.
http://secure.white-wolf.com/catalog/default.tpl?section=68

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Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar:
http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

Johannes Walch

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Jun 4, 2003, 7:50:47 AM6/4/03
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> There are six. The five listed above and the Brujah starter.

How true. It愀 just too hot over here to think ..... :-)


The Lasombra

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Jun 4, 2003, 7:57:27 AM6/4/03
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On Wed, 4 Jun 2003 13:29:47 +0200, "Johannes Walch"
<johanne...@vekn.de> wrote:


>For the current Set (Camarilla Edition) which can be considered a "basic"
>set there are 5 Starters : Malkavian, Toreador, Nosferatu, Ventrue, Tremere.

There are 6 starters in the Camarilla Edition.
Johannes missed the Brujah version.


Carpe noctem.

Lasombra

http://www.TheLasombra.com

Andreas Nusser

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Jun 4, 2003, 8:01:36 AM6/4/03
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LSJ wrote:
> Johannes Walch wrote:
>
>> For the current Set (Camarilla Edition) which can be considered a "basic"
>> set there are 5 Starters : Malkavian, Toreador, Nosferatu, Ventrue,
>> Tremere.
>
>
> There are six. The five listed above and the Brujah starter.
> http://secure.white-wolf.com/catalog/default.tpl?section=68
>

To be pecise. There are seven including the Starter with the Xaviar card. ;)

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Andreas Nusser
www.vekn.de
a.nu...@vekn.de

LSJ

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Jun 4, 2003, 8:47:47 AM6/4/03
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Andreas Nusser wrote:
> LSJ wrote:
>> Johannes Walch wrote:
>>> For the current Set (Camarilla Edition) which can be considered a "basic"
>>> set there are 5 Starters : Malkavian, Toreador, Nosferatu, Ventrue,Tremere.
>> There are six. The five listed above and the Brujah starter.
>> http://secure.white-wolf.com/catalog/default.tpl?section=68
>>
> To be pecise. There are seven including the Starter with the Xaviar
> card. ;)

The Camarilla Edition features six starters, as listed on the URL given above.
The starter with Xaviar is one of the Anarch starters, not a CE starter.

DeistMutts

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Jun 4, 2003, 1:23:12 PM6/4/03
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"Chris Brightwell" <cdb47__D...@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<bbk4lq$9utjf$1...@ID-156512.news.dfncis.de>...

Hm.. your email address is invalid.. wrote you a long email and got it back :(

DeistMutts

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Jun 4, 2003, 1:29:20 PM6/4/03
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The Lasombra <TheLa...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<kjnrdv0ag0u54c4vb...@4ax.com>...

Ok guys.. remember who started this posting--NEW PLAYERS.. so please
don't overflood them with information they don't really need at this
moment.. :) We dont' want to discourage them about this great game
now, do we? heehee.. Anyways, I hope you found a local Prince that can
help you and your friends ease into the game easier.. if not.. keep
posting questions.. no questions is a dumb question, so go ahead and
ask LSJ, bug him, cuz he is afterall, the official representative of
this game.

---Prince of Lalaland---

Kulaid

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Jun 4, 2003, 1:37:54 PM6/4/03
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DeistMutts wrote:
> The Lasombra <TheLa...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:<kjnrdv0ag0u54c4vblac4ukngk4m3jon8r@4ax

I don't think you can call yourself a prince of anything... Even if it's
lalaland...

=P


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Chris Brightwell

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Jun 4, 2003, 3:45:36 PM6/4/03
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"DeistMutts" <psydu...@hotmail.com> wrote

> Hm.. your email address is invalid.. wrote you a long email and got it
back :(

cdb47 [at] comcast [dot] net

The email addr configured in my client is valid after you take out
the spamtrap. :)

Hopefully you've got a client that's intelligent enough to keep
copies of outgoing mail or the servers involved were smart enough to attach
a copy of the original.

Thanks.


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Raille

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Jun 4, 2003, 9:24:15 PM6/4/03
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LSJ wrote:
> Andreas Nusser wrote:
>
>> LSJ wrote:
>>
>>> Johannes Walch wrote:
>>>
>>>> For the current Set (Camarilla Edition) which can be considered a
>>>> "basic"
>>>> set there are 5 Starters : Malkavian, Toreador, Nosferatu,
>>>> Ventrue,Tremere.
>>>
>>> There are six. The five listed above and the Brujah starter.
>>> http://secure.white-wolf.com/catalog/default.tpl?section=68
>>>
>> To be pecise. There are seven including the Starter with the Xaviar
>> card. ;)
>
>
> The Camarilla Edition features six starters, as listed on the URL given
> above.
> The starter with Xaviar is one of the Anarch starters, not a CE starter.
>

Actually he was refering to the single know starter deck that showed up
in Spain that contained the Xaviar promo card in it.

Raille

LSJ

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Jun 5, 2003, 6:22:58 AM6/5/03
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Raille wrote:
> Actually he was refering to the single know starter deck that showed up
> in Spain that contained the Xaviar promo card in it.

That would be one of the six in the list.

reyda

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Jun 5, 2003, 7:50:08 AM6/5/03
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LSJ wrote:

:: Raille wrote:
::: Actually he was refering to the single know starter deck that
::: showed up in Spain that contained the Xaviar promo card in it.
::
:: That would be one of the six in the list.

not to mention those containing 2 wind dance instead of the regular tremere
crypt =)


Timlagor

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Jun 6, 2003, 8:34:04 PM6/6/03
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No one really seems to have registered that you already have this box.
I reckon a whole box of Jyhad boosters ought to build you a few decks.
VTES is kinda weird from that point of view in that you suddenly go
from not being able to build anything decent to being able to build
almost anything. That's why they produced the preconstructed clan
decks. Certainly you have enough cards to give the game a good bash
and see if you like it.

If you each read the rules you'll probably be able to play ok
-especially if you have done the demo. It might go quite slowly at
first.

I recommend sorting your cards by Disciplines and Clans. IF you have
12 Vamps of some clans make them your crypt -then take all the cards
using their clan disciplines and split the cards that don't need a
Discipline or Clan to play. Then PLAY the game. I wouldn't worry too
much about deck construction or who wins or anything initially -just
see what comes up and how it works -then you'll be able to think about
it properly. (of course this may be appalling advice or you may
already know the cards quite well by the time you read this ;-)
My other bit of advice is do your deck building when you have no one
to play with rather than spending time you could be playing in ;-)

Have fun! :-)

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