TO VTES NETREP ? regarding charming Lobby

[Karl Innes]

Scott,

In a recent game a Charming lobby action (pre) was attempted and
none of us truly understood how to resolve it. Could you give me an
example of how it should be properly used???

Could you also answer the following....

1/Does the action charming lobby allow a Political action from
your hand to be used during the action?? Or does it in fact require 3
vampires to be used efectively (1 to charming lobby, 1 to call the
initial vote, and one to call the final vote.)

2/ i/The phrase "the next vote passes automatically" does that
refer to ANY vote called by ANY Methusela??
ii/Is there any time restriction on how long between the
success of the charming lobby and the caling of the automatically
passing vote.

Thanks in Advance, Karl

[L. Scott Johnson]

Karl Innes wrote:

> Subject: TO VTES NETREP ? regarding charming Lobby

No yelling in the subject line, Karl - there's no crowd here to
be heard above :-)

> In a recent game a Charming lobby action (pre) was attempted and
> none of us truly understood how to resolve it. Could you give me an
> example of how it should be properly used???

If you mean "officially" by "properly":
1) a vampire your control successfully takes the Charming Lobby action.
2) another vampire you control (or the same one, if he untaps)
successfully calls a political action. During the voting, you gain
two extra votes if the Chaming Lobby was performed at superior.

If the vote passes:

3) The next political action called (remaining unblocked) passes
automatically with no voting. It need not be called by a vampire
that you control.

If the vote (the 1st vote) fails, then there's no further effect.

> Could you also answer the following....
>
> 1/Does the action charming lobby allow a Political action from
> your hand to be used during the action?? Or does it in fact require 3
> vampires to be used efectively (1 to charming lobby, 1 to call the
> initial vote, and one to call the final vote.)

Three actions. Three vampires are required unless the first manages to
untap to take one of the remaining actions.

> 2/ i/The phrase "the next vote passes automatically" does that
> refer to ANY vote called by ANY Methusela??

Yes, but only to political actions. It would not cause a Blood Hunt
to pass automatically.

> ii/Is there any time restriction on how long between the
> success of the charming lobby and the caling of the automatically
> passing vote.

Until the end of the game :-)

--
L. Scott Johnson (vte...@regency.wizards.com)
Official VtES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast.
(*) - Subject to review by Rules Team

[JlB1925]

> In a recent game a Charming lobby action (pre) was attempted and
> none of us truly understood how to resolve it. Could you give me an
> example of how it should be properly used???

Actually, can you give me an example of when it should actually be used,
barring really needing 2 more votes and some demented but really
interesting ally vote push? Cryptic Rider seems better to me, even with
the extra blood cost (I think).
---

Liam Burke
"So when are they coming out with Golconda by Day, anyway?"
-overheard

[L. Scott Johnson]

JlB1925 wrote:
>
> > In a recent game a Charming lobby action (pre) was attempted and
> > none of us truly understood how to resolve it. Could you give me an
> > example of how it should be properly used???
> Actually, can you give me an example of when it should actually be used,
> barring really needing 2 more votes and some demented but really
> interesting ally vote push? Cryptic Rider seems better to me, even with
> the extra blood cost (I think).

Charming Lobby has two benefits over Cryptic Rider:

The superior gives you two extra votes to get the first PA passed.
It costs no blood.

These are minor benefits.
If they aren't needed in your deck, then use Cryptic Rider.

[John M. Baker]

L. Scott Johnson wrote

>
> Charming Lobby has two benefits over Cryptic Rider:
>
> The superior gives you two extra votes to get the first PA passed.
> It costs no blood.
>
> These are minor benefits.
> If they aren't needed in your deck, then use Cryptic Rider.
>

There is a third benefit to Charming Lobby, albeit an esoteric one:
You can guarantee someone else a successful vote.

It's the sort of thing that you'd really need to be careful about, however.

John Baker