Unleash Hell's Fury: LSJ
Dasein
infernal vampire with +2 intercept". What is the clan of this vampire?
the sect? Is it independent / Baali? What if the vampire that played
the action card was say Dylan Advanced?
Assuming it is Baali, is there a window when this vampire blocks the
action during which it can play Bloodstorm of Chorazin before its
trigger effect resolves? If so, what happens? Does that prevent the
rest of the Hell's Fury text from resolving (i.e. agg damage and burn
the card)?
Vincent
Clanless independant vampire (the default)
It is not Baali so can't play BoC.
botipeti
What about Virolax Facility? Can it trigger its effect?
Virolax Facility
Master: unique location.
When a vampire you control with capacity above 7 is burned, burn this
card and search your crypt for a vampire with capacity below 5. Place
that vampire in your ready region with 1 blood. That vampire cannot
act this turn.
BeAst
Doubtful, its a card that may block "as a vampire", not a vampire in
its own right.
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Aeschere
vampire. The capacity is given for the sake of action modifiers that
deny younger/older vampires their block option.
It doesn't count as a minion otherwise and won't benefit/suffer from
abilities that target other vampires (tribute to the master,
banishment, con. boon etc). Also it cannot be tapped with misdirection
for instance.
Unleash hell's fury also mentions something about: Burn this CARD when
the block is successful so it won't trigger Facility since no vampire
is being burned.
Orange Devil
I'm curious what cards interact with this card blocking as an infernal
vampire? Any block fails kind of effects that specify infernals being
excluded or specifically included? (Ah, True Faith I guess, any
others?)
LSJ
> It is not Baali so can't play BoC.
Correct.
Salem
Notorious Brutality
Type: Action Modifier
Requires: sabbat,capacity above 7
Cost: 1 blood
Requires a Sabbat vampire with capacity above 7. Only usable as the
action is announced.
Non-infernal vampires with capacity less than 6 cannot block this action.
Rarity: SoC:C
hmm...not quite relevant, as it's capacity is above 5 anyway. But I
guess True Faith still applies, plus gives more interesting interactions
down the line with new cards...
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James Coupe
>I'm curious what cards interact with this card blocking as an infernal
>vampire? Any block fails kind of effects that specify infernals being
>excluded or specifically included? (Ah, True Faith I guess, any
>others?)
Notorious Brutality prevents low-cap non-infernals from blocking. This
pseudo-vampire is a high enough cap that it's not relevant, but...
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floppyzedolfin
- Can the acting minion play Kiss of Ra at superior on an attempt to
block from Unleash Hell's Fury ?
If he can, which one is it -
a/ Unleash Hell's Fury be placed in the "controlled by not ready"
region,
- Can Elder Impersonation sup' be played against Unleash Hell's
Fury?
If Elder Impersonation is played against Unleash Hell's Fury, can
the card attempt to block anew ?
(I'm not sure it would be the "same minion" if triggered a second
time).
- If Faceless Night sup' is played on an attempt to block with
Unleash Hell's Fury, and the attempt is not successful, is the card
tapped?
Thanks,
Pascal.
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Unleash Hell's Fury
Cardtype: Action
Discipline: Daimonium (Burn option)
Cost: 2 pool
+1 stealth action. Requires an infernal vampire. Unique.
(dai): Put this card in play. This card may attempt to block a (D)
action against you and is considered a 9-capacity infernal vampire
with +2 intercept during that attempt. If successful, the action
minion takes 1 unpreventable aggravated damage and this card is
burned.
(DAI): As above and untap this vampire.
Elder Impersonation
Cardtype: Action Modifier
Cost: 1 blood
Discipline: Obfuscate
[obf] +1 stealth.
[OBF] Only usable when a minion attempts to block. The attempt fails
(do not tap that blocking minion). That minion cannot attempt to block
this action again.
Faceless Night
Cardtype: Action Modifier
Discipline: Obfuscate
[obf] +1 stealth.
[OBF] +1 stealth, and any minion who attempts to block this action and
fails becomes tapped when the action is resolved (before resolving the
action).
The Kiss of Ra
Cardtype: Action Modifier
Cost: 3 blood
Discipline: Fortitude
Only usable when a vampire who does not have Fortitude attempts to
block this acting minion.
[for] The block attempt is canceled, the blocking vampire burns 2
blood, and the current action is ended (without combat).
[FOR] As above, and send the blocking vampire to torpor.
floppyzedolfin
[sorry for the previous post, I accidently hit "Send" when trying to
insert tabulations ...]
- Can the acting minion play Kiss of Ra at superior on an attempt to
block from Unleash Hell's Fury ?
If he can, which one is it -
a/ Unleash Hell's Fury is placed in the "controlled by not ready"
region
b/ Unleash Hell's Fury stops faking being a vampire when KoR reads
"the blockin attempt is cancelled", and is therefore not affected by
the rest of the card
- Can Elder Impersonation sup' be played against Unleash Hell's
Fury?
If Elder Impersonation sup' is played against Unleash Hell's Fury,
LSJ
> - Can the acting minion play Kiss of Ra at superior on an attempt to
> block from Unleash Hell's Fury ?
Yes.
> If he can, which one is it -
> a/ Unleash Hell's Fury is placed in the "controlled by not ready"
> region
> b/ Unleash Hell's Fury stops faking being a vampire when KoR reads
> "the blockin attempt is cancelled", and is therefore not affected by
> the rest of the card
b. sounds easier to handle.
> - Can Elder Impersonation sup' be played against Unleash Hell's
> Fury?
Yes.
> If Elder Impersonation sup' is played against Unleash Hell's Fury,
> can
> the card attempt to block anew ?
> (I'm not sure it would be the "same minion" if triggered a second
> time).
No. It would be the same minion.
> - If Faceless Night sup' is played on an attempt to block with
> Unleash Hell's Fury, and the attempt is not successful, is the card
> tapped?
Tapped, no. It's not a minion when the FN effect comes to tap the
minion.
But it wouldn't matter. The card doesn't need to be untapped in order
to attempt to block.
Dasein
> > Unleash Hell's Fury, and the attempt is not successful, is the card
> > tapped?
>
> Tapped, no. It's not a minion when the FN effect comes to tap the
> minion.
> But it wouldn't matter. The card doesn't need to be untapped in order
> to attempt to block.
Really? Why not? When it's attempting to block, it's a vampire, and
vampires need to be tapped to attempt to block. Although I guess he
can only *become* a vampire if he attempts to block...
More questions around this weird card.
- When the Unleash card attempts to block as a vampire, can I
Heidelberg a Sports Bike onto him?
If the answer is yes, then
- what happens if the block attempt succeeds? I'm guessing Sports
Bike burns when he does?
- what happens if the block attempt fails? I'm guessing the Sports
Bike burns when he stops being a vampire?
- If an acting vampire has a Dominion card on him, I'm guessing the
Unleash card can't attempt to block, since doing so requires burning
blood, of which he has none?
If the answer is yes, then is there a window when he has become a
vampire but before he has failed to attempt to block during which he
can have blood Heidelberged onto him?
- If an acting vamprie plays Crocodile Tongue on the Unleash vampire,
can I Heidelberg blood onto him for him to burn to cancel the card?
- If an acting vampire is blocked by an Unleash vampire, what happens
if the acting minion plays a Change of Target?
- Can the Unleash card blocking as a vampire play a Coterie Tactics?
if so, can I name a second vampire to be the blocking vampire? If so,
what happens after resolving the action?
Dominion
Cardtype: Master
Master.
Put this card on a Black Hand vampire. Vampires must burn 1 blood to
attempt to block this Black Hand vampire. A vampire can have only one
Dominion.
Coterie Tactics
Cardtype: Reaction
Choose another ready untapped vampire you control of the same sect as
this reacting vampire. These two vampires attempt to block, using the
sum of their intercept to see if the block succeeds. If successful,
both tap and then you choose one to be the blocking vampire (and the
other ceases to be blocking).
Crocodile's Tongue
Cardtype: Action Modifier
Discipline: Auspex
[aus] Only usable when an ally or a younger vampire attempts to block.
That block is canceled (the minion is not tapped). The blocking
minion's controller cannot attempt to block this action again. The
blocking minion can cancel this card by burning a blood or life.
[AUS] As above, but canceling this card requires an additional blood
or life.
Change of Target
Cardtype: Action Modifier
Only usable when this acting minion is blocked (play before combat, if
any). Untap the acting minion, do not tap the blocking minion, and end
the current action (it is not successful). This minion cannot perform
the same action again this turn.
John Flournoy
> More questions around this weird card.
>
> - When the Unleash card attempts to block as a vampire, can I
> Heidelberg a Sports Bike onto him?
No; you cannot use Heidleberg during an action, only between them.
> If the answer is yes, then
> - what happens if the block attempt succeeds? I'm guessing Sports
> Bike burns when he does?
> - what happens if the block attempt fails? I'm guessing the Sports
> Bike burns when he stops being a vampire?
Both moot.
> - If an acting vampire has a Dominion card on him, I'm guessing the
> Unleash card can't attempt to block, since doing so requires burning
> blood, of which he has none?
Right.
> If the answer is yes, then is there a window when he has become a
> vampire but before he has failed to attempt to block during which he
> can have blood Heidelberged onto him?
Doubly moot.
> - If an acting vamprie plays Crocodile Tongue on the Unleash vampire,
> can I Heidelberg blood onto him for him to burn to cancel the card?
No; see above.
-John Flournoy
Frederick Scott
"Dasein" <dasei...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > > - If Faceless Night sup' is played on an attempt to block with
> > > Unleash Hell's Fury, and the attempt is not successful, is the card
> > > tapped?
> >
> > Tapped, no. It's not a minion when the FN effect comes to tap the
> > minion.
> > But it wouldn't matter. The card doesn't need to be untapped in order
> > to attempt to block.
>
> Really? Why not? When it's attempting to block, it's a vampire, and
> vampires need to be tapped to attempt to block. Although I guess he
> can only *become* a vampire if he attempts to block...
You just answered your own question. Card text does not refer to whether
UHF is untapped or not, WRT its ability. Perhaps it would be more clear
if it read, "...is considered a 9-capacity UNTAPPED vampire..."? But I
think that could be assumed. The "tapped-ness" of the card does not
equate to the "tapped-ness" of the vampire it becomes.
> More questions around this weird card.
>
> - When the Unleash card attempts to block as a vampire, can I
> Heidelberg a Sports Bike onto him?
I don't think there would be anything inherently wrong with using
another permanent's effect during the attempt to block. Not Heidelberg
Castle, however. The final sentence on HC reads, "Cannot be used
during an action." (If you were tapping Heidelberg Castle to move
intercept retainers and/or equipment around to block an action already
declared and still in progress, you should know that doesn't work.)
> If the answer is yes, then
> - what happens if the block attempt succeeds? I'm guessing Sports
> Bike burns when he does?
> - what happens if the block attempt fails? I'm guessing the Sports
> Bike burns when he stops being a vampire?
Moot.
> - If an acting vampire has a Dominion card on him, I'm guessing the
> Unleash card can't attempt to block, since doing so requires burning
> blood, of which he has none?
Sounds reasonable to me.
> If the answer is yes, then is there a window when he has become a
> vampire but before he has failed to attempt to block during which he
> can have blood Heidelberged onto him?
Again, moot. Heidelberg cannot be used during an action.
> - If an acting vamprie plays Crocodile Tongue on the Unleash vampire,
> can I Heidelberg blood onto him for him to burn to cancel the card?
Moot.
> - If an acting vampire is blocked by an Unleash vampire, what happens
> if the acting minion plays a Change of Target?
Card text of CoT: Acting minion untaps.
Card text of UHF: Acting minion takes agg damage. UHF burns.
> - Can the Unleash card blocking as a vampire play a Coterie Tactics?
> if so, can I name a second vampire to be the blocking vampire? If so,
> what happens after resolving the action?
I would assume acting minion takes agg damage and UHF is once again
burned. After all, these are the effects for UHF when a block is
successful, which are the same conditions as those which allow you
to choose one vampire or the other to thereafter be the blocking
vampires. If you choose UFH to be the blocking vampire thereafter,
the action would end regardless of what happened after the acting
vampire took his damage. If you choose the other vampire and the
acting vampire didn't go torpor somehow (e.g. Heart of Darkness),
then combat would ensue.
I'm not sure how sect is determined for UHF, though.
Fred