[LSJ] Regarhagen's Hold

atomweaver

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Dec 16, 2003, 3:23:30 PM12/16/03

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Card text:
Regarhagan's Hold [Anarchs:R2]
Cardtype: Master

Cost: 2 pool

Master: out-of-turn.
Give this card to another Methuselah during his or her untap phase and
move a reaction card from that Methuselah's ash heap to this card. The
chosen reaction card costs that Methuselah's vampires an additional
blood. That Methuselah may move 1 pool to this card as a master phase
action. Burn this card when it has 2 pool counters. A Methuselah can
have only 1 Regarhagan's Hold.

There was some question in a discussion as to whether the use of the
wording "Give this card..." was sufficient to imply a change of which
Meth controls Regarhagen's hold. The question is, does control of RH
change to the Methuselah to whom it is given? I believe that it
does...

Thanks,
DaveZ
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LSJ

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Dec 16, 2003, 3:37:16 PM12/16/03

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Yes.
It doesn't "change" per se, since the Meth playing it never controls it.
Like Charnas, it is simply put into play under someone else's control.

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Colin McGuigan

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Dec 16, 2003, 4:16:14 PM12/16/03

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LSJ wrote:
> Yes.
> It doesn't "change" per se, since the Meth playing it never controls it.
> Like Charnas, it is simply put into play under someone else's control.

Hrmmm. Does this mean you could use the Succubus club to trade a
Regarhagen's Hold to someone else, assuming they accept?

--Colin McGuigan

LSJ

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Dec 16, 2003, 7:26:56 PM12/16/03

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You can trade anything you control. Charnas, a Hold, Millicent, etc.

Reyda

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Dec 17, 2003, 3:29:47 AM12/17/03

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"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message
news:3FDF6CFC...@white-wolf.com...

> atomweaver wrote:
> > Card text:
> > Regarhagan's Hold [Anarchs:R2]
> > Cardtype: Master
> >
> > Cost: 2 pool
> >
> > Master: out-of-turn.

> > Give this card to another Methuselah (...)

> > There was some question in a discussion as to whether the use of the
> > wording "Give this card..." was sufficient to imply a change of which
> > Meth controls Regarhagen's hold. The question is, does control of RH
> > change to the Methuselah to whom it is given? I believe that it
> > does...
>
> Yes.
> It doesn't "change" per se, since the Meth playing it never controls it.
> Like Charnas, it is simply put into play under someone else's control.

i suspect that soon will be posted a smart combo involving goth band, palla
grande and regarfans' hold, but i may be wrong ;D

atomweaver

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Dec 17, 2003, 10:55:35 AM12/17/03

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LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:<3FDF6CFC...@white-wolf.com>...
> atomweaver wrote:

> > There was some question in a discussion as to whether the use of the
> > wording "Give this card..." was sufficient to imply a change of which
> > Meth controls Regarhagen's hold. The question is, does control of RH
> > change to the Methuselah to whom it is given? I believe that it
> > does...
>
> Yes.
> It doesn't "change" per se, since the Meth playing it never controls it.
> Like Charnas, it is simply put into play under someone else's control.

Understood, and thanks.

DaveZ
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Halcyan 2

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Dec 18, 2003, 4:00:52 AM12/18/03

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>Subject: Re: [LSJ] Regarhagen's Hold
>From: LSJ vte...@white-wolf.com
>Date: 12/16/03 6:26 PM Central

>
>
>You can trade anything you control. >Charnas, a Hold, Millicent, etc.

Well, you can't trade counters you control however, correct? Since Succubus
Club only allows the trading of pool and cards, counters aren't included in
that list.

Halcyan 2

LSJ

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Dec 18, 2003, 8:57:49 AM12/18/03

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Right.

atomweaver

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Dec 18, 2003, 1:22:15 PM12/18/03

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"Reyda" <true_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<3fe013fa$0$12014$79c1...@nan-newsreader-03.noos.net>...

It was already posted in the Oct. 2003 !Tor newsletter...

DaveZ
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