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vermillian

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Dec 20, 2001, 10:13:59 AM12/20/01
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My worhsipful and great prince has allowed me to ask of the mighty
scroll of newsgroup a few questions, as long as I don't embarass
him... And before I ask the first question, I already did a quick
little search on google for the answer to the first one to no avail...

1.) Nepata's gotta' hunt, she's low on blood. Oh NO! I've been blocked
by Meshenka! Oh, but he's a kind Meshenka, and S:CE for me with Meld
with the Land, so I don't have to (but I do so anyway to cycle cards
for bleed modifiers... bwahaha). Now I'm untapped, and with no
blood...
a) May I still hunt (no repeat actions thing and what not...)?
b) If I can't hunt, may I do something else (like... oh... Enchant
Kindred).

2.) So... Some misc. vampiric minion must hunt... but before I do
that, may I tap the Hidelberg Castle to give him blood from another
minion? Sure, I can't tap it in the middle of an action, but I'm not
in the middle of an action... as I'm the acting minion, I get to
choose the order of things that happen simultaneously... right?

3.) [not really a question...] Just to get it straight... Boy Toy
Kindred Spirits... Zebulon masks... oh wait, Zeb can't because he
doesn't have dementation... so Zeb can't play mask... right?

4.) [as above] My Black Magician tries to steal a discipline. Zeb
takes over with Mask... oh, wait... no he doesn't... Zeb can't play a
mask... right?

5.) Inferior Revelations (much better than Superior rev.)... I look at
my prey's hand... then I choose a card to get axed.

a) Can I tap Slaughter House while looking at it, and THEN cause a
card to get axed from his hand?

b) Does he replace the card he discards while I'm still looking at his
hand (that is... do I get to see the card he draws to replace the one
I axed)?

um... that's all for now...

~SV

LSJ

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Dec 20, 2001, 10:32:08 AM12/20/01
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vermillian wrote:
> 1.) Nepata's gotta' hunt, she's low on blood. Oh NO! I've been blocked
> by Meshenka! Oh, but he's a kind Meshenka, and S:CE for me with Meld
> with the Land, so I don't have to (but I do so anyway to cycle cards
> for bleed modifiers... bwahaha). Now I'm untapped, and with no
> blood...
> a) May I still hunt (no repeat actions thing and what not...)?

Not if you're using the NRA rule. See the NRA rule.

> b) If I can't hunt, may I do something else (like... oh... Enchant
> Kindred).

No. [6]

> 2.) So... Some misc. vampiric minion must hunt... but before I do
> that, may I tap the Hidelberg Castle to give him blood from another
> minion? Sure, I can't tap it in the middle of an action, but I'm not
> in the middle of an action... as I'm the acting minion, I get to
> choose the order of things that happen simultaneously... right?

Yes.

> 3.) [not really a question...] Just to get it straight... Boy Toy
> Kindred Spirits... Zebulon masks... oh wait, Zeb can't because he
> doesn't have dementation... so Zeb can't play mask... right?

Right. See the online rulings for Mask.



> 4.) [as above] My Black Magician tries to steal a discipline. Zeb
> takes over with Mask... oh, wait... no he doesn't... Zeb can't play a
> mask... right?

Right, again per the ruling.

> 5.) Inferior Revelations (much better than Superior rev.)... I look at
> my prey's hand... then I choose a card to get axed.
>
> a) Can I tap Slaughter House while looking at it, and THEN cause a
> card to get axed from his hand?

No.



> b) Does he replace the card he discards while I'm still looking at his
> hand (that is... do I get to see the card he draws to replace the one
> I axed)?

Moot.

--
LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc.
Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules:
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Matt Latham

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Dec 20, 2001, 10:43:14 AM12/20/01
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"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message
news:3C220478...@white-wolf.com...
> vermillian wrote:

> > b) Does he replace the card he discards while I'm still looking at his
> > hand (that is... do I get to see the card he draws to replace the one
> > I axed)?
>
> Moot.
>

I don't think it's moot. What I believe he is asking is "Inferior
Revelations lets me look at his hand and force a discard. Do I get to see
what card he replaces the discard with before I lose the ability to look at
his hand?"

I think the b) question is separate from the a) question.

I may be wrong though.

Matt

LSJ

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Dec 20, 2001, 10:50:15 AM12/20/01
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Ah. Right. I though he was talking about the Slaughterhouse discards.
No, you don't get to see the replacement card.

Matt Latham

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Dec 20, 2001, 11:03:16 AM12/20/01
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"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message
news:3C2208B7...@white-wolf.com...

> Ah. Right. I though he was talking about the Slaughterhouse discards.
> No, you don't get to see the replacement card.
>

Cool. Thanks for the clarification. In a multi-part action like that it can
get a smidge confusing.

Matt


vermillian

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Dec 21, 2001, 1:07:37 PM12/21/01
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LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:<3C220478...@white-wolf.com>...
> vermillian wrote:

> > b) If I can't hunt, may I do something else (like... oh... Enchant
> > Kindred).
>
> No. [6]

Grr... man... there goes half of the power of a new deck idea I had
dreamed up... all well. Thanks LSJ.

~SV

LSJ

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Dec 21, 2001, 1:13:00 PM12/21/01
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Yeah; if it weren't for those rules, I could really make some
killer decks. :-)

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