A few questions
Gerry
1. Is telepatic tracking playable after a combat ends card is played? (like
majesty)
2.When exectly do you gain control of a vampire with corruption?
3. Must a vampire with Lunatic eruption attack before your other minions
actions?
4.Can you chose when in the minionphase you take control over a mindraped
vampire?
Most people in the playgroup argues that an action that is 'forced' must be
performed at first possible opportunity, is there a rule to that effect?
Thanks in advance.
Gerry
The Lasombra
"Gerry" <gkl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I have a few quistions after meeting a new playgroup here in Sweden.
>
> 1. Is telepatic tracking playable after a combat ends card is played?
> (like majesty)
Yes.
> 2.When exectly do you gain control of a vampire with corruption?
When you successfully play the corruption card that matches
their capacity. You can only burn the counters to take
control of them when you are doing the action, so you have to
do it when you place the last corruption counter on them.
> 3. Must a vampire with Lunatic eruption attack before your
> other minions actions?
Except hunting, yes.
See LSJ quote at bottom of message.
> 4.Can you chose when in the minion phase you take control over a
> mindraped vampire?
Not really, no.
You must do it during the minion phase by Sabbat War card text,
so you have to do it before other things.
> Most people in the playgroup argues that an action that is 'forced'
> must be performed at first possible opportunity, is there a rule to
> that effect?
LSJ already answered this in another thread.
http://www.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=698219373
"Mandatory actions are to be taken before others.
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LSJ
> "Gerry" <gkl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > 4.Can you chose when in the minion phase you take control over a
> > mindraped vampire?
>
> Not really, no.
> You must do it during the minion phase by Sabbat War card text,
> so you have to do it before other things.
Actually, yes. It's not an action, so it doesn't have to be done before
other actions. It's just something you have to do during your minion
phase.
--
LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc.
GP41
I seem to be confused by the people that answers the questions around
here. Who's right, and who's wrong? Who is eligible to answer
properly, besides LSJ???
More than a week ago, i asked a question about Lunatic Eruption and this
is the answer i got:
#1)
> > > I have 4 vamps at full capacity. One has a Lunatic Eruption (i.e.
> > > Ramiro).
> > >
> > >1) Do i have to enter combat with Ramiro first thing in the minion
> > > phase action?
> >
> > No, the card text does not specify that it must be the first thing in the
> > minion phase. It just specifies it has to happen (barring being ousted,
> > say).
>
>So, even if the card is remove during this minion phase, the vampire
>still have to enter combat. Right?
#2)
> > So, even if the card is remove during this minion phase, the vampire
> > still have to enter combat. Right?
>
> If the card is not there, nothing compels them to rush using it. Indeed,
> you cannot rush using it, since it is not there.
And now i get to see this:
> > 3. Must a vampire with Lunatic eruption attack before your
> > other minions actions?
>
> Except hunting, yes.
> See LSJ quote at bottom of message.
>
> LSJ already answered this in another thread.
> http://www.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=698219373
>
> "Mandatory actions are to be taken before others.
>
> --
> LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) VTES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc.
> Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules:
> http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/"
>
Except for "Oh Mighty LSJ", who else can answer correctly?
GP41
The Lasombra
GP...@videotron.ca wrote:
> Hi everyone,
Hi.
> I seem to be confused by the people that answers the questions around
> here. Who's right, and who's wrong?
Anyone and everyone.
> Who is eligible to answer properly, besides LSJ???
> Except for "Oh Mighty LSJ", who else can answer correctly?
Anyone is eligible to answer correctly, but the
only one whose opinion you really need to hear
is L. Scott Johnson. He is the official VTES
net rep for White Wolf, was the official VTES
net rep for Wizards of the Coast, is the head
of the Rules Team, and is the design lead for
VTES with White Wolf.
If you want a well thought out answer that will
be passionately defended to the death, try
James Coupe or Noal McDonald. They will most
often be right. Not always, but most often.
They have both been here for years and
understand the game very well.
If you want a rules quote, with a link to
the previous ruling and or to the place
in the rules where your question is answered,
try Lasombra. I won't be answering unless I
can show you where in the rules or the online
rulings the answer is, so I will be right quite
often as well.
If you want a good answer that makes sense,
but may or may not be supported by the current
rules, I will recommend Gomi no Sensei and Xian.
They have both put a lot of thought and effort
into the game, but have not spent as much time
on the nagging details of the rules.
> More than a week ago, i asked a question about Lunatic Eruption and
> this is the answer i got:
I answered immediately with the post at the bottom.
Unfortunately, not all of the servers seem to be picking
up my posts.
> #1)
>
> I have 4 vamps at full capacity. One has a Lunatic Eruption
> (i.e. Ramiro).
>1) Do i have to enter combat with Ramiro first thing in the minion
> phase action?
Yes, it must be the first thing.
> 3. Must a vampire with Lunatic eruption attack before your
> other minions actions?
>
> Except hunting, yes.
> See LSJ quote at bottom of message.
> LSJ already answered this in another thread.
> http://www.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=698219373
>
> "Mandatory actions are to be taken before others.
>
> --
> LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) VTES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc.
> Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules:
> http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/"
I am not an LSJ, though I play one in Austin.
James Coupe
> I seem to be confused by the people that answers the questions around
> here. Who's right, and who's wrong?
LSJ
> Who is eligible to answer
> properly, besides LSJ???
Officially, no-one.
Check the quote from LSJ out. Assuming Lunatic Eruption is mandatory,
follow the LSJ quote.
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James Coupe
<TheLa...@hotmail.com> writes
>If you want a well thought out answer that will
>be passionately defended to the death, try
>James Coupe or Noal McDonald. They will most
>often be right. Not always, but most often.
>They have both been here for years and
>understand the game very well.
Heh.
That's not *quite* what I try and do. I'm often merely trying to force
the game to answer to some consistency at various points, by arguing
through a line of reasoning which is, to my mind, supportable. Where a
counter-argument allows a loophole, I'll see what I can do with it, so
that the game is logically consistent, so far as I see it. Kind of, but
not quite, what LSJ was doing many years ago.
(And I've only been on the group, from my own account, for about three
and a half years, in mid-'97, though I did read and participate
infrequently before then.)
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"It's hard to carry on when you feel all alone. Now I've swung back again,
it's worse than it was before. If I hadn't seen such riches I could live with
being poor." - James, "Sit Down"
Xian
"James Coupe" <ve...@zephyr.org.uk> wrote in message
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> That's not *quite* what I try and do. I'm often merely trying to force
Close enough though. Then again, I appreciate it. :)
> (And I've only been on the group, from my own account, for about three
> and a half years, in mid-'97, though I did read and participate
> infrequently before then.)
You've been on here as long as I can remember, James, and you haven't taken
extended leaves of absence like, oh, say...Gomi and I have. :)
Then again, I *think* I've been on since...'95 or so? Of course, we can't
check deja to find out, and I was using my university account up until
mid-'97.
Hmm. I'm not sure what my original point was...probably that I like having
you and Noal, and plenty of other people on the newsgroup. Oh well. Sorry.
Didn't mean to get all warm and fuzzy.
Xian
--
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A cold that sleeps within my heart, It tears the earth and sun apart.
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Noal McDonald
>> If you want a well thought out answer that will
>> be passionately defended to the death, try
>> James Coupe or Noal McDonald. They will most
>> often be right. Not always, but most often.
>> They have both been here for years and
>> understand the game very well.
>
*grin* That was my reaction, too. I also recall that many of those
"passionate" conversations between James and I got _very_ heated and
often quite personal. Although, with the exception of Andrew's
pontifications, I don't think I've gotten too terribly riled up about
anything on the newsgroup in a while. (Note that this does not include
the Prince mailing list.)
> That's not *quite* what I try and do. I'm often merely trying to
> force the game to answer to some consistency at various points, by
> arguing through a line of reasoning which is, to my mind,
> supportable. Where a counter-argument allows a loophole, I'll see
> what I can do with it, so that the game is logically consistent, so
> far as I see it. Kind of, but not quite, what LSJ was doing many
> years ago.
*nods* I used to try to do that publicly, but some people tried to
interject themself into the discussion with nothing to add because they
either didn't understand the issue or just wanted to be a distraction
for whatever reason.
Nowadays, I have those conversations privately with LSJ as they are much
more productive. As a testament to the his efforts as design lead of
Sabbat War, I've had very little reason to have those conversations in
quite some time. There is, of course, some issues that we don't agree on
and probably never will, but those are the result of different
priorities more than anything else.
> (And I've only been on the group, from my own account, for about three
> and a half years, in mid-'97, though I did read and participate
> infrequently before then.)
To be honest, I don't think I was very active on here until a few months
prior to the 6/23/98 rulings. I did, however, subscribe to the VTES
mailing list much earlier.
Regards,
Noal
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