Sudario in a Twister deck
jarkko...@hotmail.com
I didn't find any answer to this (or I'm just too tired of looking),
so if anyone would be keen to help, that'd be appreciated:
If I have Library at zero cards, is Sudario Fragment usable?
"+1 stealth action.
Choose three cards in you ash heap and move them to the top of your
library. Then discard three cards at random from your hand (and draw up
to your hand size afterward)."
-meaning that I have only Sudario in my hand and I play it, will it's
effect be lost. (should I pick the cards into my hand or not?)
Thanks in Advance!
John Flournoy
Correct.
The cards do go through your hand. You play the Sudario; the cards get
placed on top of your library and immediately move into your hand per
hand size rules, and then get randomly discarded (and since they're the
only 3 in your hand at that point, go back to your ash heap.)
> Thanks in Advance!
-John Flournoy
Daneel
Well, unless there is a convenient ruling to cover it, card text is
pretty obvious. That is, move the three cards on top of your Library
(and immediately, automatically draw them as they become available),
then discard all three randomly. ;)
--
Bye,
Daneel
fudjo
> I didn't find any answer to this (or I'm just too tired of looking),
> so if anyone would be keen to help, that'd be appreciated:
>
>
> "+1 stealth action.
>
> Choose three cards in you ash heap and move them to the top of your
> library. Then discard three cards at random from your hand (and draw up
> to your hand size afterward)."
>
> -meaning that I have only Sudario in my hand and I play it, will it's
> effect be lost. (should I pick the cards into my hand or not?)
>
> Thanks in Advance!
The key is this, from the Rulings, Errata, and Clarifications file on
the
White Wolf web site:
"If you hold fewer cards in hand than your hand size because your
library is empty and then one or more cards are returned to your
library,
immediately draw the cards into your hand (stopping if your reach
your
hand size)."
So, with an empty library and Sudario Refraction, you'd move three
cards
from your ash heap to your library, which you would then immediately
draw,
and then you would discard three cards at random.
Sudario Refraction ends up being a bad card in a Twister deck, as
Twister decks are looking for infinite looping, and Sudario
Refraction
doesn't provide that.
Maabara, however...slow, but it works.
- Ben Peal
jarkko...@hotmail.com
well anyway, Sudario is a killer in trick decks (atleast in those that
require 3 specific cards)
:P
Emmit Svenson
fudjo wrote:
> Maabara, however...slow, but it works.
Maabara is essentially Anthelios for masters *and* minion cards. Quite
powerful.
Daneel
wrote:
If nobody remembers to burn it through its burn clause. That's the main
reason I wouldn't dare to rely on Maabara in a Twister deck; if it's
core to the deck, at least one player will make sure to burn it.
--
Bye,
Daneel
Gregory Stuart Pettigrew
> If nobody remembers to burn it through its burn clause. That's the main
> reason I wouldn't dare to rely on Maabara in a Twister deck; if it's
> core to the deck, at least one player will make sure to burn it.
>
It's a nice supplement to Waste Management Operation in a Mata Hari
Twister Deck.
--
- Gregory Stuart Pettigrew
Daneel
Well, that's what my initial presumption was. But then I thought
over, and got to the conclusion that unless there is a solid
permanent deterrent to taking the (D) action (I'm thinking Crocodile
Temple is not enough, maybe a War Ghoul with permanent Intercept?),
people will take that action and burn the card. In which case, if
you are using Waste to recycle it, you are basically doing nothing
twistery, except force a player to take a (D) action against you
each turn - which they would be doing anyway, most likely. That's
just not solid enough.
--
Bye,
Daneel