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Cameron

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Nov 1, 2001, 9:39:15 AM11/1/01
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Last sunday 10 people got together to play in Day Op Milwaukee,
because I'm not a prince (and unfortunatly not the winner... by one
pool as the final timed out....) I've got a less than complete
recollection of the event, so I'm going to share that in the hope of
getting others to come forward. Oh, and I really suck with names, so
here's hoping someone else can fill those in.

General Impressions: there was a lot of combat for such a small field,
and that really hampered the bleed decks that made up the rest of the
tournement. Although a few decks included politics there were no real
vote decks available. Diablere was a must.

The final was:

Chicago person playing Princes Intercept combat preyed on
Kevin Mergen (madison) playing 2 cap sabbat embrace preyed on
Me (madison) playing Lisette Visquel's POT/pro monsters preyed on
BJ (madison) playing !Malk bleed, table rearrange preyed on
Matt Heslin (milwaukee) playing AUS weenie stuff.

The final was confusing, with BJ (the ultimate winner) switching
places with Chicago (sorry can't recall your name) and stealing his VP
in Kevin. I then ousted Chicago. The entire game was made more
surreal by Matt's Malk Pranks. I think that he got 15 pool from the
damned things, err.. great things. I got out Ebenezer Rouch on Prank
pool, thus really messing with Kevin's horde. The game timed out just
as BJ was setting up to try and oust me.

VP's in Final:
BJ: 1.5
Cameron: 1.5
Matt: .5

Finally, three people got taught the game during the final round,
they'd just wandered in to the shop and got caught up.

Thanks to the Prince of Milwaukee for hosting a great tournement,
sorry I kept nuking all your minions, but Presence weenies are scary.

also, if anyone knows names, dates, a full list of players/decks,
here's what I have:

Cameron (me): POT/pro
Matt Strehlow: Gangrel FOR Bleed
Kevin Mergen: 2-cap vic embraces from hell
David Buerger: Assamite POT close range rush (very very very scarry)
BJ: !Malk bleed and table rearrange
Matt Heslin: AUS weenie intercept and bleed

Out!
Cameron

LSJ

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Nov 1, 2001, 9:47:30 AM11/1/01
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Cameron wrote:
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> Last sunday 10 people got together to play in Day Op Milwaukee,
> because I'm not a prince (and unfortunatly not the winner... by one
> pool as the final timed out....)

In V:EKN tournaments, VP ties in the finals are broken by placement
coming into the final, not by pool totals. [VEKN 3.8.4]

--
LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc.
Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules:
http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

Frederick Scott

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Nov 1, 2001, 10:59:52 AM11/1/01
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LSJ wrote:
>
> Cameron wrote:
> >
> > Last sunday 10 people got together to play in Day Op Milwaukee,
> > because I'm not a prince (and unfortunatly not the winner... by one
> > pool as the final timed out....)
>
> In V:EKN tournaments, VP ties in the finals are broken by placement
> coming into the final, not by pool totals. [VEKN 3.8.4]

Perhaps he meant that he missed an oust on his last turn by 1 pool?

Fred

Aramis

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Nov 1, 2001, 8:08:52 PM11/1/01
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Frederick Scott <fre...@netcom.com> wrote in message news:<3BE15634...@netcom.com>...


Nope, they counted up pool at the end because it was some sort of tie
breaker... have to talk to Ed Gross to see what rules he was using.

Aramis

Aramis

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Nov 1, 2001, 8:19:01 PM11/1/01
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orcao...@hotmail.com (Cameron) wrote in message news:<a1e26d99.01110...@posting.google.com>...

> Last sunday 10 people got together to play in Day Op Milwaukee,

Well named considering how early us Madison players had to get up to
make it to the tourney, especially after a long night of Halloween
partying (college style). Have some great pics of Cameron as Thor,
god of thunder, though...

I prefer to call it "Why Lisette Visquel is a Bitch"

> Matt Strehlow: Gangrel FOR Bleed
> Kevin Mergen: 2-cap vic embraces from hell

At one point this deck got out so many minions he went 3 deep in his
play area. I'd have to double check my pictures, but I'm guessing
around 15 minions.

> David Buerger: Assamite POT close range rush (very very very scarry)

Specifically it was Assamite first strike aggravated
IG...Muwahaahhhahaaa! Thetmes is my hero! =) Still looking for a good
close range Assamite deck, Todd?


> BJ: !Malk bleed and table rearrange

Conniving little $%^&. Weasled me out of a couple vps in the 3rd
round. Well played, but it's the deck you love to hate. =)

> Matt Heslin: AUS weenie intercept and bleed
>

Some additions:

"Boris" - guy who played the princes beats deck

Rick Buerger - my brother, went far with a weenie computer hacking
deck we built for him in the minutes before GenCon. Played some sort
of variation on the Ventrue law firm I think.

> Out!
> Cameron

Well, I plan on posting a link to my pictures of the tournament as
soon as I get the right cable for my digital camera. Hope Ed gets the
real tournament report up soon...

Aramis
AKA, Cameron's roomate
AKA, David Buerger

Matthew Heslin

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Nov 1, 2001, 8:31:39 PM11/1/01
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Cameron <orcao...@hotmail.com> wrote :

> Chicago person playing Princes Intercept combat preyed on

Boris Zaretsky (sorry for any misspelling, Boris), who
traveled from Illinois to join us at the gig. Boris's deck was
a cool toolbox which was stunning when it operated at full
capacity. He had a few cel/CEL Princes which powered the
deck with weenies backing them up. Guns, Traditions, and
swarm all worked well to cover a lot of bases. Nice deck.

> Kevin Mergen (madison) playing 2 cap sabbat embrace preyed on

Kevin's deck is sleaze cubed, and unfortunately everywhere
he sat, the table ganged up on him. In the final he was prompted
to make despairing and nigh-suicidal statements, which made us
feel bad. We ousted his satanic deck anyway.

> Me (madison) playing Lisette Visquel's POT/pro monsters preyed on

Anyone else out there playing with POT/pro? I like the idea
of 7 hand damage, aggravated, and you do it so well. </brownnose>

> BJ (madison) playing !Malk bleed, table rearrange preyed on

Brian J. Conant, the "young Turk" of the Madison playgroup,
who made the coolest suggestion in the preliminaries: after
choosing to ally with me over Boris and Dave, competition was
fierce. Boris and Dave allied against us, and after my subsequent
ousting, BJ calmly looks at his allied prey and predator and asks,
"So, shall we all withdraw and gain a full VP?"

> Matt Heslin (milwaukee) playing AUS weenie stuff.

I wanna give a shout-out to my main home-burglar
Ethan Burrow for the deck, which I shamelessly stole
from this site: http://www.thelasombra.com/decks/twd.htm#tunowa
It swept its first table, and paid for Ebeneezer Roush in
the final. Malkavian Prank is broken, and needs errata. </troll>

> Thanks to the Prince of Milwaukee for hosting a great tournement,
> sorry I kept nuking all your minions, but Presence weenies are scary

Ditto on the thanks, Ed -- and sorry if you got the table's
scorn and bitterness. Both Princes (Ed and Kevin) brought weenies
with scary threat capacity, and both got hammered for it. My
condolences.

Chris Barbaro, also of Milwaukee, played with a Malk/!Malk
bleed deck. Chris is a recent returnee to the Great Game, and
nabbed a victory point at his first tournament -- congrats to him.

Good time had by all -- hope to see as many/more of y'all
in Minneapolis this weekend and Madison on... November 18th,
Kevin?

--Matt Heslin

ps: hope the party in Carolina was phat, y'all. : )


Cameron

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Nov 2, 2001, 9:17:07 AM11/2/01
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Frederick Scott <fre...@netcom.com> wrote in message news:<3BE15634...@netcom.com>...

Nope, we were dead equal going into the final, so this was apparently
like the xth tiebreaker. AFAIK anyway, I don't run um, just kill
things in um.

Cameron

LSJ

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Nov 2, 2001, 9:40:16 AM11/2/01
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Going into the final, you determine top five (the finalists) by:

1) VPs
2) If VPs are tied, use TPs
3) If still tied, use a random method (coing toss, die roll) to break the tie.

This orders the five finalist.
This order is used to determine seating the finals and to break VP ties in
the finals.

Cameron

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Nov 2, 2001, 6:27:29 PM11/2/01
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> Going into the final, you determine top five (the finalists) by:
>
> 1) VPs
> 2) If VPs are tied, use TPs
> 3) If still tied, use a random method (coing toss, die roll) to break the tie.
>
> This orders the five finalist.
> This order is used to determine seating the finals and to break VP ties in
> the finals.

Well crap, maybe BJ didn't win, since I sat before he did. I'll check
with the director of the tournemnt. Doesn't much matter for "real
life" considerations, but It'll be fun to see the look on BJ's face.
lol. In that spirit, I'll post the deck that may or may not have won
the tournement later.

Cameron

Oebadon

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Nov 3, 2001, 3:06:19 PM11/3/01
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*steps out from the shadows*

> Chicago person playing Princes Intercept combat preyed on

Undoubtedly the biggest problem I faced all day, Boris stopped me cold
in two separate games. A good amount of permacept combined with 2nd
Traditions was more than I could handle... Perhaps if I'd packed a few
more Elder Impersonations... Nice deck.

> Me (madison) playing Lisette Visquel's POT/pro monsters preyed on

A truly frightening combat deck; Lisette's on my list of Top Three
Feared Vampires, along with Arika (when I'm not playing her *grin*),
and newcomer Thetmes.

> BJ (madison) playing !Malk bleed, table rearrange preyed on

I'd actually just made the deck on a whim the previous weekend, as a
break from my usual Big Eye and Inner Circle shenanigans. It proved
too fun, though, and I decided to run with it for Day Op.


> The final was confusing, with BJ (the ultimate winner) switching
> places with Chicago (sorry can't recall your name) and stealing his VP
> in Kevin. I then ousted Chicago. The entire game was made more
> surreal by Matt's Malk Pranks. I think that he got 15 pool from the
> damned things, err.. great things. I got out Ebenezer Rouch on Prank
> pool, thus really messing with Kevin's horde.

The final began very poorly for me. I lost pool to Heslin's Malkavian
Pranks, while he table-talked his way into giving my predator 4 every
time, and consistently earned more for himselfn (I was recalled of The
Purloined Letter, or The Princess Bride's "battle of wits" -- Heslin
is far too good with the Prank.) My three vampires were summarily
beaten into torpor by Lisette and Co. I thought I would be facing an
agonizingly slow bleed out by Cameron's combat deck, but, thankfully,
he had to concentrate on slowing down Kevin's weenies.

The turnaround for me was miraculously rescuing Korah and pulling off
an edge-and-Private Audience backed Dramatic Upheaval to put myself
behind Kevin. And while Kevin's deck is absolutely incredible, it
often teeters around 10 pool, with zero intercept. In a much better
table position, I was able to quickly oust Kevin, and stabilize my
game.

>The game timed out just
> as BJ was setting up to try and oust me.

I had the cards in hand and you know it, Cam. :-)

My turn was just beginning with Cameron at nine pool. Four minions,
two Kindred Spirits, two Eyes of Chaos, a Confusion, and Cameron
unable to block me. Time was called just before my first bleed for
four resolved.

All in all, a very fun game.

*makes a breach of netiquette, replying to sub-posts*

>> Kevin Mergen (madison) playing 2 cap sabbat embrace preyed on

> Kevin's deck is sleaze cubed, and unfortunately everywhere
>he sat, the table ganged up on him. In the final he was prompted
>to make despairing and nigh-suicidal statements, which made us
>feel bad. We ousted his satanic deck anyway.

An incredible deck, really. I still maintain that I never worked
against Kevin, despite the VPs that I got from him. ;-)

>Brian J. Conant, the "young Turk" of the Madison playgroup,

One can only hope this term catches on, striking fear into the hearts
of all of whom I prey upon ... either that or denoting the fact that
I'm the youngest person in my playgroup. Hmmm.

>who made the coolest suggestion in the preliminaries: after
>choosing to ally with me over Boris and Dave, competition was
>fierce. Boris and Dave allied against us, and after my subsequent
>ousting, BJ calmly looks at his allied prey and predator and asks,
>"So, shall we all withdraw and gain a full VP?"

Hey, it was worth a try. ;-) I even managed to keep a straight face
while asking!

>Conniving little $%^&. Weasled me out of a couple vps in the 3rd
>round. Well played, but it's the deck you love to hate. =)

Thanks, Dave. ;-) Can't wait to see the pictures.

Altogether, a lot of fun, especially for my first tournament! My
thanks to the Prince of Milwaukee for organizing it.

Le Cygne
aka Brian J. Conant, The Young Turk

*resumes lurking*

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