[LSJ] The Coven and different sources of damage

Damnans

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Jul 7, 2008, 5:42:48 PM7/7/08

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A 2 capacity vampire I control is in combat. The opposing vampire
plays superior Carrion Crows and strikes for 1 hand damage. Could I
tap The Coven after my vampire takes the 1 damage from his opponent's
strike and before taking the 2 damage from the Carrion Crows?

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Izaak

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Jul 7, 2008, 6:25:27 PM7/7/08

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"Damnans" <damna...@ono.com> schreef in bericht
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>A 2 capacity vampire I control is in combat. The opposing vampire
> plays superior Carrion Crows and strikes for 1 hand damage. Could I
> tap The Coven after my vampire takes the 1 damage from his opponent's
> strike and before taking the 2 damage from the Carrion Crows?

I'm guessing no.

Your vampires takes 3 damage in strike resolution. Barring any prevention,
you then move on to the healing phase where your vampires need to burn 3
blood to heal damage.
Since he can only burn 2 there will be unhealed damage left and your 2-cap
guy goes to torpor.

I don't think you can choose to burn 2 blood first, then tap coven and then
burn the third blood to end up with 1 blood after healing all the damage.

LSJ

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Jul 7, 2008, 9:28:06 PM7/7/08

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Correct.

tbz_...@hotmail.com

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Jul 8, 2008, 9:00:25 AM7/8/08

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I don't think so, since the carrion crows damage happens during strike
resolution, there's no window between resolving the hand strike and
the carrion crows damage.

As usual, I could be (and probably am) wrong.

tbz_...@hotmail.com

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Jul 9, 2008, 4:16:44 AM7/9/08

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On 8 Jul, 14:00, tbz_be...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On 7 Jul, 22:42, Damnans <damnansv...@ono.com> wrote:
>
> > A 2 capacity vampire I control is in combat. The opposing vampire
> > plays superior Carrion Crows and strikes for 1 hand damage. Could I
> > tap The Coven after my vampire takes the 1 damage from his opponent's
> > strike and before taking the 2 damage from the Carrion Crows?
>
> > --
> > Damnans
>

> >http://www.almadrava.net/damnanshttp://www.vtes.nethttp://es.groups.y...(IRC channel: #vtes)

>
> I don't think so, since the carrion crows damage happens during strike
> resolution, there's no window between resolving the hand strike and
> the carrion crows damage.
>
> As usual, I could be (and probably am) wrong.

Wow. I replied almost immediately you posted, but it took 12 hours to
appear.

LSJ

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Jul 9, 2008, 6:50:00 AM7/9/08

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It appeared on USENET immediately.

Gooogle Groups, however, has been slow to display any USENET posts lately.

JH

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Jul 9, 2008, 4:11:30 PM7/9/08

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On Jul 8, 4:28 am, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote:
> Izaak wrote:
> > "Damnans" <damnansv...@ono.com> schreef in bericht

If the 1 damage from hand strike was done with a first strike I guess
that in that case you could use the coven and avoid going to torpor,
am I right?

LSJ

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Jul 9, 2008, 5:10:44 PM7/9/08

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If X damage is done, handled, and he's still ready, you are allowed to tap the
Coven, sure.