[LSJ] Q: re Banishment and master skill cards
markvtes
I am just a little confused about the effect that master cards etc
have when they are on a banished vampire.
Ok so Miranda banishes Beatrice with a dominate skill card and the
rack on her.
Q1. Can my vampires steal the rack off of her.
Q2. Does the master skill card have an effect on her while she is in
torpor. Ie is she considered a 5 cap or a 6 cap when the opposing
meth tries to influence her back out.
Q3. If an effect was to destroy all equipment in play would this
destroy those items on a banished vampire.
Appologies if these questions have already been address and thanks in
advance.
Mark
salem
scrawled:
>Hi,
>
>I am just a little confused about the effect that master cards etc
>have when they are on a banished vampire.
>
>Ok so Miranda banishes Beatrice with a dominate skill card and the
>rack on her.
>
>Q1. Can my vampires steal the rack off of her.
Yes. No. Sort of. They can't steal the Rack _off her_, as the Rack is
not on her. The Rack goes in play, and chooses a Vampire. You could
just steal the Rack though, as it never left play with the vampire.
which leads to an interesting question: will the Rack still give it's
blood to the Banished vampire? it says nothing about the target
needing to be ready....although there is the whole 'needs to have
explicit text to be able to effect uncontrolled vampires' thing....
>Q2. Does the master skill card have an effect on her while she is in
>torpor. Ie is she considered a 5 cap or a 6 cap when the opposing
>meth tries to influence her back out.
Cards on banished vampires are out of play unless specific text says
otherwise.
>Q3. If an effect was to destroy all equipment in play would this
>destroy those items on a banished vampire.
nope. nor would unique equipment on a banished vampire be contested.
>Appologies if these questions have already been address and thanks in
>advance.
you could have just asked me at our regular games. :)
ps: remember banishment is younger vampires only now. ;)
salem
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Legendre
> Hi,
>
> I am just a little confused about the effect that master cards etc
> have when they are on a banished vampire.
>
> Ok so Miranda banishes Beatrice with a dominate skill card and the
> rack on her.
>
> Q1. Can my vampires steal the rack off of her.
>
The Rack is not "on" her. The Rack is in play, and "tasked" to a
vampire who is no longer there. It can still be stolen.
> Q2. Does the master skill card have an effect on her while she is in
> torpor. Ie is she considered a 5 cap or a 6 cap when the opposing
> meth tries to influence her back out.
The master skill cards do not count until she is back in play.
>
> Q3. If an effect was to destroy all equipment in play would this
> destroy those items on a banished vampire.
>
This one I'm less sure of. My guess would be that no, it does not
destroy her equipment. But I'm only taking an educated guess.
> Appologies if these questions have already been address and thanks in
> advance.
>
> Mark
-Legendre
LSJ
> lo...@rsbs.anu.edu.au (markvtes) scrawled:
>>Ok so Miranda banishes Beatrice with a dominate skill card and the
>>rack on her.
>>
>>Q1. Can my vampires steal the rack off of her.
>
> Yes. No. Sort of. They can't steal the Rack _off her_, as the Rack is
> not on her. The Rack goes in play, and chooses a Vampire. You could
> just steal the Rack though, as it never left play with the vampire.
Correct.
> which leads to an interesting question: will the Rack still give it's
> blood to the Banished vampire? it says nothing about the target
> needing to be ready....although there is the whole 'needs to have
> explicit text to be able to effect uncontrolled vampires' thing....
The latter applies in the absence of explicit text. Rack has no such
explicit text. So it doesn't give "its" blood to the uncontrolled
vampire.
>>Q2. Does the master skill card have an effect on her while she is in
>>torpor. Ie is she considered a 5 cap or a 6 cap when the opposing
>>meth tries to influence her back out.
>
> Cards on banished vampires are out of play unless specific text says
> otherwise.
Correct.
>>Q3. If an effect was to destroy all equipment in play would this
>>destroy those items on a banished vampire.
>
> nope. nor would unique equipment on a banished vampire be contested.
Correct.
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Charles Lechasseur
wrote:
>salem wrote:
>> which leads to an interesting question: will the Rack still give it's
>> blood to the Banished vampire? it says nothing about the target
>> needing to be ready....although there is the whole 'needs to have
>> explicit text to be able to effect uncontrolled vampires' thing....
>
>The latter applies in the absence of explicit text. Rack has no such
>explicit text. So it doesn't give "its" blood to the uncontrolled
>vampire.
And if the Banished vampire comes back into play, does he/she gets the
benefits of the Rack again immediately?
--
charles lechasseur - da...@novideospamtron.ca
salem
Lechasseur) scrawled:
maybe. I know if a vampire goes through the ash heap (burned and then
possessed) then they are considered a whole new vampire and won't be
the rack's target anymore. not sure about uncontrolled region, though.
markvtes
Yeah, just trying to fine tune the deck before then, besides KL and I
play some nights and she refuses to read the rules herself but gets
kinda anoyed if I ever get anything wrong.
Mark
LSJ
Well, the Rack won't offer up missed blood, but at the next untap phase
(if the vampire is controlled) he gets the benefit.
Effects can "track" a vampire through banishment. [RTR 01-MAY-2000]