[LSJ] Gran Madre di Dio, Italy vs. Reverend Adams, Millennium Cultist
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in the center of table, does it count as putting minion in play when you
successful call a referendum to give you control of him? How about if
someone else already controls him? Rules say that Reverend is
uncontrolled and out of play when he is in the center of table, but also
that successful referendum gives you control of him.
My guess is that Gran Madre di Dio works only when Reverend is
uncontrolled before successful referendum.
Gran Madre di Dio, Italy
Cardtype: Equipment
In play, this is a unique location and does not count as equipment.
When your predator or prey puts a minion in play in any phase except the
untap phase, that minion is tapped. If that minion is a younger vampire,
he or she burns 1 blood.
3. The Reverend Adams, Millennium Cultist crypt card begins play face-up
in the center of the table. Reverend Adams begins play with 3 blood from
the blood bank and is initially uncontrolled and out of play.
4. If you control the edge, a vampire you control may call a referendum
to give you control of Reverend Adams (stealing him from his controller,
if any) as a +1 stealth political action. You must burn the edge when
that action is announced or the action fails. When control of Reverend
Adams changes (by any means), he untaps and is moved to the new
controller's ready region and gains 1 blood.
LSJ
> How does Gran Madre di Dio work against Reverend Adams? If Reverend is
> in the center of table, does it count as putting minion in play when you
> successful call a referendum to give you control of him?
Yes.
> How about if
> someone else already controls him?
No. Moving a vampire in play to another region in play is not putting him in play.
> Rules say that Reverend is
> uncontrolled and out of play when he is in the center of table, but also
> that successful referendum gives you control of him.
>
> My guess is that Gran Madre di Dio works only when Reverend is
> uncontrolled before successful referendum.
Correct.
Jozxyqk
> > Rules say that Reverend is
> > uncontrolled and out of play when he is in the center of table, but also
> > that successful referendum gives you control of him.
> >
> > My guess is that Gran Madre di Dio works only when Reverend is
> > uncontrolled before successful referendum.
> Correct.
By that logic, would Sterile vampires be unable to call the referendum to snag
the Reverend? It is an action that puts a vampire in play.
witness1
It is an action that calls a referendum. Presumably, for the same
reason that a political action is always undirected no matter whose
cards it affects, a referendum to put a vampire in play does not
violate the sterile rule.
witness1
-believe the lie.
LSJ
Correct. See also
An Assamite Justicar calling PTO and still not able to play Draught of the Soul.
A Laibon with Aye calling Kindred Segregation. He doesn't lose his Aye, even if
several allies are burned.