Diablerie: Camarilla vs. Sabbat

[ni...@rci.rogers.com]

What is the current ruling on diablerizing outside of the acting vampire's
sect? For instance, If a Sabbat vampire has just diablerized a Camarilla
vampire, do Camarilla vampires get to participate in the ensuing
bloodhunt/wildhunt vote? Do all methuselahs have the opportunity to call the
bloodhunt/wildhunt in this case?

[L. Scott Johnson]

As per the latest ruling, which is doomed to be overturned as soon as
it is inspected by any member of the rules team:

It doesn't matter what the sect of the diabolist is, nor what the sect
of the victim was. Any Methuselah controlling a ready Sabbat vampire
may call a Wild Hunt, and any Methuselah controlling a ready Camarilla
vampire may call a Blood Hunt.

All Methuselahs may vote, using votes from their titled vampires,
burned PAs, the Edge, etc. as usual.

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This will be (?) overturned and replaced with something akin to the following:

Wild Hunt and Blood Hunt are the same thing, and are handled in exactly
the same way. All Methuselahs may vote, using votes from their titled
vampires, burned PAs, the Edge, etc. as usual. In general, a Wild Hunt
is called if the diabolist is Sabbat, otherwsie a Blood Hunt is called -
but it doesn't matter either way; it's the same thing.

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[Jim Petty]

sjoh...@math.scarolina.edu (L. Scott Johnson) wrote:

>ni...@rci.rogers.com writes:
>>What is the current ruling on diablerizing outside of the acting vampire's
>>sect? For instance, If a Sabbat vampire has just diablerized a Camarilla
>>vampire, do Camarilla vampires get to participate in the ensuing
>>bloodhunt/wildhunt vote? Do all methuselahs have the opportunity to call the
>>bloodhunt/wildhunt in this case?

>As per the latest ruling, which is doomed to be overturned as soon as
>it is inspected by any member of the rules team:

>It doesn't matter what the sect of the diabolist is, nor what the sect
>of the victim was. Any Methuselah controlling a ready Sabbat vampire
>may call a Wild Hunt, and any Methuselah controlling a ready Camarilla
>vampire may call a Blood Hunt.

>All Methuselahs may vote, using votes from their titled vampires,
>burned PAs, the Edge, etc. as usual.

>---

>This will be (?) overturned and replaced with something akin to the following:

>Wild Hunt and Blood Hunt are the same thing, and are handled in exactly
>the same way. All Methuselahs may vote, using votes from their titled
>vampires, burned PAs, the Edge, etc. as usual. In general, a Wild Hunt
>is called if the diabolist is Sabbat, otherwsie a Blood Hunt is called -
>but it doesn't matter either way; it's the same thing.

Keep in mind the ruling I got from WotC and posted here about a month
ago. It doesn't adress who can call a Blood or Wild Hunt. But it does
relate to cards mentioning them. It would imply that the terms are
interchangable at all times, but it doesn't actually say so. Also, it
assumes it wasn't over-ruled while I wasn't listening.
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Subj: Re:V:TES Blood/Wild Hunt
Date: 97-01-10 12:50:53 EST
From: WotC

I just spoke with our rep to the V:TES team, and he told me that when
the team decided that "Wild Hunt" would sound really cool for The
Sabbat, they didn't realize that it wouldn't really work with existing
"Blood Hunt" cards.

So ignore my previous ruling: Any card that refers to a Blood Hunt in
its text can have the words "Wild Hunt" substituted for "Blood Hunt."

JD Wiker
Customer Service
Wizards of the Coast

[James Puzzo]

ni...@rci.rogers.com wrote:
: What is the current ruling on diablerizing outside of the acting vampire's

: sect? For instance, If a Sabbat vampire has just diablerized a Camarilla
: vampire, do Camarilla vampires get to participate in the ensuing
: bloodhunt/wildhunt vote? Do all methuselahs have the opportunity to call the
: bloodhunt/wildhunt in this case?

:) As far as I can tell, according to the last ruling (however official
that it may be considered) there is no difference between bloodhunts and
wildhunts and one probably should simply replace all references to wildhunt
with bloodhunt.

Therefore, "yes" to your two questions.

-spongy

[Michael Kelly]

ni...@rci.rogers.com wrote:
>
> What is the current ruling on diablerizing outside of the acting vampire's
> sect? For instance, If a Sabbat vampire has just diablerized a Camarilla
> vampire, do Camarilla vampires get to participate in the ensuing
> bloodhunt/wildhunt vote? Do all methuselahs have the opportunity to call the
> bloodhunt/wildhunt in this case?

A blood hunt/wild hunt can be called by anyone. All votes are applicable,
whether from camarilla titles, sabbat titles, or inherent abilities. It has
been decided that the two types of hunt are the same for game purposes.