HoS/Salubri in the work
SkramZ!!er
use this topic for some questions regarding this deck type.
For now, just one question, do you people think that a copy or two of
"The Fourth Cycle" is necessery as defense against "Conquest of
Humanity"?
The Lasombra
> I have been thinking about this deck a long time now, so I'll probably
> use this topic for some questions regarding this deck type.
Please make new topics for new subjects, they're free!
> For now, just one question, do you people think that a copy or two of
> "The Fourth Cycle" is necessery as defense against "Conquest of
> Humanity"?
Absolutely not.
I have never seen Conquest of Humanity in play, not even in decks that
play 10+ events.
Conquest of Humanity
Event
Gehenna. Do not replace until your next discard phase.
Requires at least two other Gehenna cards in play. During each
Methuselah's untap phase, he or she may choose a location controlled
by his or her prey. The chosen location is burned unless its
controller burns 2 pool.
Meej
Doubtful, given that I'm pretty sure I haven't seen Conquest of
Humanity in play since Gehenna was released. If you're really, really
worried about CoH, you might be better off splashing some Black Hand
tech in with the HoS's and running a Black Hand Ritual or two. But
even that seems not worth it.
- D.J.
SkramZ!!er
Gehennas (including CoH) and an occasional weenie deck (different each
time) with also CoH and other events.
LSJ
Well, if you know you're likely to see it in your games, then, yes, go
ahead and prepare for it.
cthulukitty
Why is Conquest of Humanity the specific event you're worried about?
If locations are so important to your decks that CoH is a recurring
problem, perhaps you should build some decks that either don't use
them, or can afford to lose them later in the game. You could also try
using Insurance Scam to scrape something back if CoH hits the table,
though you're really better off just relying less on locations.
Jesse
Meej
Huh.
I'd have thought that there were a number of locations important
enough to an Imbued deck (Church, Barrens, intercept locations, etc)
that CoH wouldn't make the cut - even in a sub-par deck like
"WooHooGehennaMadness!"
- D.J.
The Lasombra
> SkramZ!!er wrote:
> > Surprising enough, my playgroup consists of an Imbued player with
> > Gehennas (including CoH) and an occasional weenie deck (different each
> > time) with also CoH and other events.
>
> Why is Conquest of Humanity the specific event you're worried about?
Slaughterhouses.
See also: HoS/Salubri deck....
Peter D Bakija
> use this topic for some questions regarding this deck type.
Yeah, it would probably help the discussion along if you either posted
the kind of deck you are talking about, or, ya know, at least
described what kind of deck you are talking about. Harbingers of
Skulls and Salubri as a combo doesn't seem that handy--I mean, yeah,
they both have Auspex and Fortitude, but what are you doing with it?
> For now, just one question, do you people think that a copy or two of
> "The Fourth Cycle" is necessery as defense against "Conquest of
> Humanity"?
As others have mentioned, Conquest of Humanity is a pretty rarely seen
event (I too have never in my life seen it in play), but if it is
something you are worried about, The Uncoiling is often very helpful.
-Peter
cthulukitty
> > Why is Conquest of Humanity the specific event you're worried about?
>
> Slaughterhouses.
>
> See also: HoS/Salubri deck....
Maybe you think it's obvious that an HoS deck relies on
Slaughterhouses. I don't.
Jesse
librarian
Exactly what I was thinking. And thought about when building my
Imbued/Gehenna/Table Hate deck
best -
chris
The Lasombra
> > > Why is Conquest of Humanity the specific event you're worried about?
> > Slaughterhouses.
> > See also: HoS/Salubri deck....
> Maybe you think it's obvious that an HoS deck relies on
> Slaughterhouses. I don't.
What other locations do you think could be of concern? Salubri don't
have any. Harbingers only have the Slaughterhouse, Maabara and
Crematorium. None of the general locations are so universal that they
need to be addressed in a thread titled Hos/Salubri.
Maabara and Crematorium aren't critical and have no cost, so letting
them go to Conquest of Humanity wouldn't be an issue. Only
Slaughterhouses have a cost and are critical to a strategy so that the
repayment from CoH would be of concern.
Brum
Harbingers = Slaughterhouse, that's why he's afraid.
Also, I bet his friend using CoH is also meta. So you have meta and
counter-meta meta.
Small group of players?
About your question. Not to Be is goos because it can kill other
events too.
Tiago
wedge
Salubri = Heidelberg
adam....@gmail.com
I think more likely to be afraid of is Can`t Take it with You...
or perhaps the billion group 4/5 minions that destroy or steal(?)
locations
Adam
cthulukitty
> What other locations do you think could be of concern? Salubri don't
> have any. Harbingers only have the Slaughterhouse, Maabara and
> Crematorium. None of the general locations are so universal that they
> need to be addressed in a thread titled Hos/Salubri.
Honestly, I didn't put much thought into what locations might be
important to the OP. I asked him, which is generally a good way to
seek information about other peoples' intent.
> Maabara and Crematorium aren't critical and have no cost, so letting
> them go to Conquest of Humanity wouldn't be an issue. Only
> Slaughterhouses have a cost and are critical to a strategy so that the
> repayment from CoH would be of concern.
As Brum pointed out, Heidelberg Castle is often a major part of
Salubri decks. There's a good chance that the deck in question is
fairly wallish, given that Sal and HoS share AUS FOR, so maybe there
are media locations or powerbases. Lots of Sal and HoS vampires are
big, so maybe there's a Monastary of Shadows.
It's reasonable to assume that the OP might have been concerned about
Slaughterhouses, but it is still an assumption.
Jesse
Frederick Scott
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On Mar 10, 12:01 pm, cthulukitty wrote:
> > > > Why is Conquest of Humanity the specific event you're worried about?
> > > Slaughterhouses.
> > > See also: HoS/Salubri deck....
>
> > Maybe you think it's obvious that an HoS deck relies on
> > Slaughterhouses. I don't.
>
> What other locations do you think could be of concern? Salubri don't
> have any. Harbingers only have the Slaughterhouse, Maabara and
> Crematorium. None of the general locations are so universal that they
> need to be addressed in a thread titled Hos/Salubri.
I disagree with the last statement. Or at least, say, one wouldn't have
any idea that the OP might not be proposing a deck in which any other
HoS or !Salubri or any no requires location was somehow a key location
unless one saw the deck proposed. I've built a deck which featured
Crematorium in the past. It turned out not to work, but that's beside
the point. THe point is, that was what I was trying to do.
Hell, for all we ignornant readers could have known from that post,
maybe the guy was forgetting to tell us Mata Hari was part of the
deck.
Repeat after me: "We can't know a thing unless you TELL us the thing..."
Fred