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Need a burn counter clarification here (was:Temptation of your own Vampire)

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Tetragrammaton

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Aug 30, 2001, 8:33:25 AM8/30/01
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Hello, i don't understand well logic
behind the actual Temptation's "burn counter" interpretation
(by the LSJ response copied below from the "Temptation of your own Vampire"
thread),
and i would like to get some explanation for it.
How i can burn a counter that is not there ?
A vampire with zero blood cannot "burn" a blood to play a Chiropteran
Marauder at superior, is right ?
Then, how a met is supposed to "burn" a counter, if the card
(Temptation) has zero counter ?

LSJ ?

Thanks in advance

Emiliano, vekn prince of Rome


Francois Alix wrote:
> IMHO, I think it is possible to burn zero counter to take control of a
> bloodless Vampire... LSJ ?

Yes, as per James Coupe's earlier response.


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LSJ

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Aug 30, 2001, 8:41:05 AM8/30/01
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Tetragrammaton wrote:
>
> Hello, i don't understand well logic
> behind the actual Temptation's "burn counter" interpretation
> (by the LSJ response copied below from the "Temptation of your own Vampire"
> thread),
> and i would like to get some explanation for it.
> How i can burn a counter that is not there ?

You cannot. You can, however, burn zero counters (not "a counter") if you
have zero counters. You can, in general, burn X counters if you have X (or
more) counters. If X is zero, you need have only zero (or more) counters.

> A vampire with zero blood cannot "burn" a blood to play a Chiropteran
> Marauder at superior, is right ?

Right.

> Then, how a met is supposed to "burn" a counter, if the card
> (Temptation) has zero counter ?

You cannot burn "a" counter, but you could burn zero counters (if
zero is sufficient for the card's effect, which it is for Temptation
on a vampire with zero blood).

Jason Bell

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Aug 30, 2001, 6:21:52 PM8/30/01
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"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote
> "Tetragrammaton" <nospam_a...@hotmail.com> wrote

> > Then, how a met is supposed to "burn" a counter, if the card
> > (Temptation) has zero counter ?
>
> You cannot burn "a" counter, but you could burn zero counters (if
> zero is sufficient for the card's effect, which it is for Temptation
> on a vampire with zero blood).

In response to the previous poster,
I believe the card text says "burn all the counters," which is
different from "burn a counter."

Much like you could play a card that says "Tap all vampires"
with no vampires in play, but you could not play a card that
says "Tap a vampire" unless there were one available.

It's a strange distinction, but there you go.

- Jason Bell


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