What are acceptable punishments for misbehavior during tournament?
Satrapa
What would be acceptable for stalling, cheating or smoking (when law
don't prohibit it but organizer asked not to smoke).
Petri Wessman
Well, if/when I'm running a tournament
- clear stalling gets a warning, multiple warnings will result in a
disqualification
- cheating (clear and provable) gets an immediate disqualification.
With a more murky case I'd probably go with just a warning, it
depends.
- smokers would be asked (forcefully) to stop at once, if they don't,
well... I'd kick them out. Players have to abide by the rules set by
the venue/organizer.
I've been blessed with very pleasant and sportsmanlike (or fiendishly
clever ;) players over the years though, I think I've only given out
one warning or something like that.
-Petri
Janne Hägglund
How about:
http://www.listaholic.com/12-of-the-most-horrifying-torture-devices-in-history.html
HG O:-)
LSJ
> On Mar 9, 5:25 pm, Satrapa <jedrzej.komorow...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > What are acceptable punishments for misbehavior during tournament?
> > What would be acceptable for stalling, cheating or smoking (when law
> > don't prohibit it but organizer asked not to smoke).
>
> Well, if/when I'm running a tournament
>
> - clear stalling gets a warning,
... and added time (to remove the effects of the stall).
Petri Wessman
> On Mar 9, 10:37 am, Petri Wessman <or...@orava.org> wrote:
> > - clear stalling gets a warning,
>
> ... and added time (to remove the effects of the stall).
Quite.
BeAst
Death?
Smiling Jack XXX
Final Death!!!
Obtenebration
Replace their deck with a QUI one. Hard to stall when your deck only
has one useful action in it.
Ome
wrote:
ROTFL. This has made my day.
ira...@gmail.com
Here are some guidelines that might help you:
http://www.white-wolf.com/VTES/index.php?line=veknjudgesguide
REMEMBER, these are just guidelines, and the judge should use his or
her judgment when making decisions.
I encourage you to post case studies of specific examples. Many
experienced judges on this forum will reply with their insights, and
how they would respond in a given situation.
Ira
Satrapa
forum reminded me that I didn't knew about any system for punishments
for various misbehaviors during turnament.
John Whelan
> What are acceptable punishments for misbehavior during tournament?
Acceptable:
-- A "caution";
-- A "warning";
-- A game loss;
-- A disqualification.
Unacceptable:
-- Judge gets to keep your cards
-- Forfeiture of First-born Child
-- Castration
-- Beheading.
> What would be acceptable for stalling, cheating [...]
Stalling (when intentional) is a type of cheating. All types of
cheating generally merit severe penalties, such as game loss, of
disqualification. See the link Ira provided.
Note that "slow play" is not considered cheating, since it is not
judged intentional, and generally merits lesser penalties.
> or smoking (when law
> don't prohibit it but organizer asked not to smoke).
Probably covered under the guidelines for "Unsportsmanlike conduct".
James Coupe
>On Mar 9, 10:25�am, Satrapa <jedrzej.komorow...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> What are acceptable punishments for misbehavior during tournament?
>
>Acceptable:
>-- A "caution";
>-- A "warning";
>-- A game loss;
>-- A disqualification.
It's also worth bearing in mind that correction of game state is also
possible, which may be perceived by the player as a punishment. The
intention is _not_ to punish - merely to correct for things which have
gone wrong - but this might include things like losing blood, pool, or
other cards/abilities somehow.
(Game state correction obviously doesn't apply where the misbehaviour
isn't related to the game - such as violating a venue's rules on
smoking.)
--
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cthulukitty
> What are acceptable punishments for misbehavior during tournament?
> What would be acceptable for stalling, cheating or smoking (when law
> don't prohibit it but organizer asked not to smoke).
I like to begin every tournament I run by issuing multiple warnings to
every player for pretty much everything they do. Then they're much
less likely to actually violate the rules, or something.
Jesse
quickbeam
And that's why you are the worst judge who ever lived. And Scott just
called you a bitch while I drew a picture of your mom.
You can start issuing warnings on Friday this time.
-dc
cthulukitty
> And that's why you are the worst judge who ever lived. And Scott just
> called you a bitch while I drew a picture of your mom.
That'll be a warning for both of you. Don't make me get my frozen
fish.
> You can start issuing warnings on Friday this time.
Awesome. I'm sure you'll be disqualified by Saturday morning though,
so don't worry about improving your deck.
Jesse
Johannes Walch
> John Whelan <jwjbw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mar 9, 10:25 am, Satrapa <jedrzej.komorow...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> What are acceptable punishments for misbehavior during tournament?
>> Acceptable:
>> -- A "caution";
>> -- A "warning";
>> -- A game loss;
>> -- A disqualification.
>
> It's also worth bearing in mind that correction of game state is also
> possible, which may be perceived by the player as a punishment. The
> intention is _not_ to punish - merely to correct for things which have
> gone wrong - but this might include things like losing blood, pool, or
> other cards/abilities somehow.
>
> (Game state correction obviously doesn't apply where the misbehaviour
> isn't related to the game - such as violating a venue's rules on
> smoking.)
Although the "smoke a cigarette loose 2 pool" rule should be pretty
effective.
Juggernaut1981
If you're outside the venue smoking during the round, you auto "no
block attempt" every action???
That should roughly equal "smoke once, lose 2 pool"