Vampire without Clan!
Omael
Clanless, without the clan symbol, what could that be? a Ghoul maybe?
It's written on it TBA: New, not a new rule, nor a rule update?
What the hell could this be?
Dan Keller
Kuei-jin?
Dan
Frederick Scott
"Omael" <omael....@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1108266083.2...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
I think you're confusing its proximity to the words, "TBA: New", which
has been there since the beginning. That is, it just happens to be
directly over "TBA: New", which is next in line to be revealed after
this vampire is revealed (if I recall correctly and assuming they
hold to pattern, of course). That would happen on Tuesday.
Presumedly, this new clanless vampire (if that's the explanation for
the lack of any discernable clan symbol) is a totally separate
revelation from "TBA: New".
Or not. :-)
Fred, hoping they'll give out free tickets to the LARP party for the
first 9 callers...
DJ Feng Shui
C'mon man. Get real. The B&W of the vamp don't show its clan symbol
so well. That's all.
Derek Rawlings
Omael wrote:
My suspition is that it's just a regular vampire that's had its clan
symbol removed or Über-jumbled for the sake of the preview... It's got
OBF, but have this odd feeling that it's going to be a Giovanni.
Then again, those WW folks have surprised me in the past.
Derek Rawlings
sam...@gmail.com
read name, text or capacity, though.
Regards,
Patrick
Columbus, OH
DenAlex
> Eyes without a face....
>
> C'mon man. Get real. The B&W of the vamp don't show its clan symbol
> so well. That's all.
It's definetly a Baali, you can see a small black circle where the
clan symbol is supposed to be.
The Cadaverous Verger
> I think you're confusing its proximity to the words, "TBA: New", which
> has been there since the beginning.
Yeah, but so far the middle card in each row has been in some way
related to the rule below it. Maureen - new Infernal rule, Red List -
Red List rule, Michael DiCarlo - new Blood Curse rule and Trophy -
Trophy rule, so I'd dare guess that the TBA: New has something to do
with the soon-to-be-revealed vampire.
Or not. :)
--CV
Orpheus
> symbol removed or Über-jumbled for the sake of the preview... It's got
> OBF, but have this odd feeling that it's going to be a Giovanni.
>
> Then again, those WW folks have surprised me in the past.
>
> Derek Rawlings
Unfortunately, I would bet on Cagliostro, The Grand Copht. But we've
already seen a Setite, so it would seem strange...
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Orpheus, eager to know what this extension will bring to his favourite clan.
Derek Rawlings
> already seen a Setite, so it would seem strange...
I just want it to be a Giovanni for you, Orph... It's way past due...
Derek Rawlings
denis
its a baali...
Morgan Vening
>Looks like a !Gangrel to me, disciplines (ani) (for) (OBF) (PRO). Can't
>read name, text or capacity, though.
It's definately [ani]. And [OBF]. But that second attribute isn't
[for], and the fouth is definately not [PRO]. Compare to Mitra.
They're nothing alike. Closest I can tell, the second trait looks a
lot like [pot] when compared to Annis. And given the 'right side' bias
of the final superior, it looks most similar to Serpentis (or maybe
Melon-pony). No FoS matches it name wise, however (two long names).
Morgan Vening
arh_...@yahoo.es
symbol is obfuscated due to the fact its advanced version (in some
manner, as Pethaniqua being a TBA vampire). The new rule announcement
would be related to this, but I have no idea what could it be.
Fabio "Sooner"
To me it seems [ani] [pot] [OBF] [SER] with it's clan symbol
deliberately blurred. Otherwise it's a Baali - theirs is one of the
few clan symbols to be black instead of white... as far as I remember.
best,
Fabio "Sooner" Macedo
V:TES National Coordinator for Brazil
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now a "luminary", whatever it means:
http://www.thelasombra.com/WhosWho/fabiomacedo.htm
deq...@sanguinis.net
clans shown, so I'm guessing Giovanni. Say NEC, OBF, pot, ani. That's
my two cents.
Deq
Gregory Stuart Pettigrew
It's possible the Clan Symbol is there, but really hard to see. Remember
how the Giovanni Clan cards looked in Ancient Hearts?
The_Baital
dark ones (not as dark as the baali, naturally, but all the thin lines
kindda disappear in low-res/b&w preview images...), and also, it´s
square, and i don´t see any black circle where the clan symbol should
be (afterall, if they use photoshop to create the final version of the
cards,it´s just so easy to set a layer as invisible...and the same
goes for almost every other pro image editting software), but rather a
lack of any markings, so that would be my guess... and it really scared
me when i checked the preview and there was no clan symbol there...
name-wise, the giovanni have a few ons that could match:
Almodo Giovanni
Ambrogino ADV (but i don´t think so ´cause of the image we saw
spoilled earlier)
Carmine Giovanni
Cristobal Ghiberti
Gregory Stuart Pettigrew
> spoilled earlier)
I think the lack of (Adv) symbol is telling.
deq...@sanguinis.net
Morgan Vening
<fabio_...@NOSPAMterra.com.br> wrote:
>On 13 Feb 2005 00:48:55 -0800, sam...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>Looks like a !Gangrel to me, disciplines (ani) (for) (OBF) (PRO). Can't
>>read name, text or capacity, though.
>>Regards,
>>Patrick
>>Columbus, OH
>
>To me it seems [ani] [pot] [OBF] [SER] with it's clan symbol
>deliberately blurred. Otherwise it's a Baali - theirs is one of the
>few clan symbols to be black instead of white... as far as I remember.
That's pretty much what I figured. But it's not Baali, at least not
one of the ones listed. The name has two words, at least 5 characters
in length (compare to Black Annis). No Baali has more than 1 name
word, except Maureen, who has already been previewed. That leaves, up
to the current listed Vampires, eliminating already previewed, or
those who don't match the name criteria, to
Michael diCarlo Assamite
Vardar Vardarian Assamite
Count Germaine Brujah Adv
Jayne Jonestown (PAN) Brujah antitribu
Black Lotus Follower of Set
Sahira Siraj (PB) Follower of Set
Denette Stensen (PG) Gangrel antitribu
Doyle Fincher Gangrel antitribu
Janey Pickman Gangrel antitribu
Jeffrey Mullins (PG) Gangrel antitribu
Phillipe Rigaud Gangrel antitribu
Almodo Giovanni Giovanni
Ambrogino Giovanni Giovanni Adv
Carmine Giovanni Giovanni
Cristobal Ghiberti Giovanni
Raphaela Giovanni Giovanni
Black Wallace Lasombra
Alexis Sorokin Ravnos
Marion French Ravnos
Also, there are some unnamed Vampires after Valerius x2. Finally, note
that there are more than 50 vampires (52 at current count). So that
allegation was at least disproved. But my prediction, based on nothing
more than a hunch at this point, assuming it's not something new and
unique, is that it's Alexis Sorokin. He just looks like an Alexis. And
Ravnos also have a fairly dark clan signature.
Morgan Vening
Matthew Heslin
> But my prediction, based on nothing
> more than a hunch at this point, assuming it's not something new and
> unique, is that it's Alexis Sorokin. He just looks like an Alexis. And
> Ravnos also have a fairly dark clan signature.
While prefacing my statement with a disclaimer that I have
no idea and can't really back this up - I think Alexis is a female.
The KMW book has a Ravnos named Alexis or Danya who
uses both names and masquerades as a Toreador in order to
get close to artwork worth stealing. Naturally, the Toreador
put her on the Red List.
Plus, in the thread about the number of Ravnos, LSJ said
something to the effect of "must be something to do with the
theme of this expansion" as to why the Ravnos had more
base vampires than the other independent clans. To my
knowledge, there are no Giovanni or Setite Red List vampires,
and only one Assamite (Tariq, already printed and already
on the list as Advanced Tariq). So, that makes sense.
--then again, I could be completely wrong.
heslin
Orpheus
420F3BD9...@telus.net...
> > Unfortunately, I would bet on Cagliostro, The Grand Copht. But we've
> > already seen a Setite, so it would seem strange...
>
> I just want it to be a Giovanni for you, Orph... It's way past due...
LOL. Thanks Derek.
Yes, it would be unfair that only one indie clan, the BEST of them without
any possible doubt ;) stayed out of the previews.
On the other hand, the thing I want to know will not be revealed by the
previews : are there enough good new Giovanni / Nec / Indie / Anarch cards
to offer real new possibilities for my Famiglia ?
Sure hope so.
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Orpheus
Gregory Stuart Pettigrew
> that there are more than 50 vampires (52 at current count). So that
> allegation was at least disproved.
There are 8 Starter-Only Vampires and 50 Booster Vampires.
> But my prediction, based on nothing more than a hunch at this point,
> assuming it's not something new and unique, is that it's Alexis Sorokin.
> He just looks like an Alexis. And Ravnos also have a fairly dark clan
> signature.
>
Isn't Alexis Sorokin a woman?
Frederick Scott
"DenAlex" <alexander....@pandora.be> wrote in message
news:855f46a7.05021...@posting.google.com...
#1. I cannot see anything that looks like a small black circle or anything
the slightest bit like a Baali clan circle. Even making allowances for the
blurriness, I don't think there's a Baali clan symbol there, no.
#2. The background is not the same as the Baali background.
Fred
The_Baital
> I think the lack of (Adv) symbol is telling.
well, the lack of clan is telling too, ain´t it??
> deq...@sanguinis.net wrote:
> Let's start a pool! I'm buying into Cristobal Ghiberti.
i´ll side with you....
Morgan Vening
No Setite? Check spot number 6 on the spoiler page. *wry smile*
While Alexis tends to be a female dominant name in the Western world,
in Eastern Europe, depending on tradition, Alexi/Alexis is a not
uncommon male name. Granted, you might be right in this instance,
especially if there is an Alexis in the KMW book.
Morgan Vening
Morgan Vening
<ethe...@sidehack.sat.gweep.net> wrote:
>> Also, there are some unnamed Vampires after Valerius x2. Finally, note
>> that there are more than 50 vampires (52 at current count). So that
>> allegation was at least disproved.
>
>There are 8 Starter-Only Vampires and 50 Booster Vampires.
Ok, I'm stoopid.
>> But my prediction, based on nothing more than a hunch at this point,
>> assuming it's not something new and unique, is that it's Alexis Sorokin.
>> He just looks like an Alexis. And Ravnos also have a fairly dark clan
>> signature.
>
>Isn't Alexis Sorokin a woman?
Possibly stoopid squared.
Morgan Vening
LSJ
> To my
> knowledge, there are no Giovanni or Setite Red List vampires,
Kemintiri is the vampire for whom the Red List was created.
She's a Setite.
--
LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc.
Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar:
http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/
Derek Rawlings
...and do once more... No one could have seen Allonzo coming.
Well... Orpheus will have to stay on the edge of his seat for a Gio-treat.
:)
Derek Rawlings
Gregory Stuart Pettigrew
> in Eastern Europe, depending on tradition, Alexi/Alexis is a not
> uncommon male name. Granted, you might be right in this instance,
> especially if there is an Alexis in the KMW book.
>
Yes, I know. The last Tsarevich was named Alexis. Nevertheless, I believe
*this* Alexis is a woman.
Matthew Heslin
>> To my
>> knowledge, there are no Giovanni or Setite Red List vampires,
>
> Kemintiri is the vampire for whom the Red List was created.
> She's a Setite.
...except that really big and important one.
Jeez, people, let me finish my thoughts here!
--don't you have errata to be overturning somewhere?!
heslin
Orpheus
GRRRRRRRR.....
Ok, I'm pretty sure the last preview is a Nec card.
Still, LSJ'd better stay alive a long time. Because when he croaks
HIS SOUL IS MINE !!!
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Orpheus