Rogue
James Davey
Rapidly approaching my Chemistry finals I decided to find something to
keep me otherwise occupied and thus give me an excuse for failing. Imagine
me delight when I remember that 'old game' Rogue I used to play at school!
So here I am, palying and playing (most of the day in fact) Yep, I keep
getting killed by Trolls, I haven't met anything that hard although I did
polymorth something into an Ur-Vile which promptly killed me.
I have a few questions (I hope people don't ask them all the time)
1 - What do you do when held by a Venus Fly Trap? I couldn't kill it
becuase I wasn't right next to it and I couldn't get away. I threw things
at it but they wouldn't hit it. argh.
2 - What are all the monsters. So far from reading and playing I have
A=Aquator B=Bat C=Centaur D=Dragon E=Emu F=Fly Trap G=Griffin H=Hobgoblin
I=Ice Monster J=jabberwock K=Kestral L=Lepracaurn M=Medussa N=Nymph O=Orc
P=? Q=Quagga R=Rattlesnake S=Snake T=Troll U=Ur-Vile V=? W=Wraith X=Xerox
Y=Yeti and Z=Zombie.
What are P and V? I assume V is a vampire. . . What's the order of
'toughness'? I haven't really met anything that is harder than a Troll,
except due to Polymorph.
In case of emergancy is there anything special one should do if one meets
a Medusa etc?
Thanks
Don't waste to much time! :-)
--
Silk
To some, I am known as:
Avon * The Scarlet Avenger * James B Davey * Tony Meringue * John Constantine
It isn't a crime giving yourself over to pleasure
Avital Pilpel
James Davey wrote:
>
> Rapidly approaching my Chemistry finals I decided to find something to
> keep me otherwise occupied and thus give me an excuse for failing. Imagine
> me delight when I remember that 'old game' Rogue I used to play at school!
>
> So here I am, palying and playing (most of the day in fact) Yep, I keep
> getting killed by Trolls, I haven't met anything that hard although I did
> polymorth something into an Ur-Vile which promptly killed me.
Centaur - Troll - Ur-ville - Griffin - Medusa - Dragon.
> I have a few questions (I hope people don't ask them all the time)
>
> 1 - What do you do when held by a Venus Fly Trap? I couldn't kill it
> becuase I wasn't right next to it and I couldn't get away. I threw things
> at it but they wouldn't hit it. argh.
> You were probably diagonally from it. You can't throw diagonally, but you CAN
hit (and walk) diagonally (use the 1, 3, 7, or 9 keys on your numeric keypad).
> 2 - What are all the monsters. So far from reading and playing I have
>
> A=Aquator B=Bat C=Centaur D=Dragon E=Emu F=Fly Trap G=Griffin H=Hobgoblin
> I=Ice Monster J=jabberwock K=Kestral L=Lepracaurn M=Medussa N=Nymph O=Orc
> P=?
P is a phantom; it is usually invisible (i.e. you do not see the 'P', no pun
intended). but if you use a ring of see invisible or a potion of see
invisible, then you see it.
Q=Quagga R=Rattlesnake S=Snake T=Troll U=Ur-Vile V=? W=Wraith X=Xerox
> Y=Yeti and Z=Zombie.
>
> What are P and V? I assume V is a vampire. . .
Bingo.
> What's the order of
> 'toughness'? I haven't really met anything that is harder than a Troll,
> except due to Polymorph.
After troll, they rank roughly as follows:
Xeroc (actually easy to kill, just has a special ability...)
Ur-Vile
Vampire (lowers your level)
Griffin (VERY tough)
Medusa (confuses you)
Jabberwock (often asleep)
Dragon (shoots flame)
>
> In case of emergancy is there anything special one should do if one meets
> a Medusa etc?
Yes: use your magic. i.e., if you meet a medusa, zap it with a wand of
polymorph or a teleport away, for example (or read a scroll of hold monster)
if you can. The point is NOT to wait till you are down to 3 HP and THEN
decide that you might want to use magic...
>
> Thanks
>
> Don't waste to much time! :-)
>
> --
>
> Silk
> To some, I am known as:
>
> Avon * The Scarlet Avenger * James B Davey * Tony Meringue * John Constantine
>
> It isn't a crime giving yourself over to pleasure
--
Avital Pilpel.
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The majority is never right.
-Lazarus Long
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Neil Merrick
James Davey <magd...@sable.ox.ac.uk> wrote in article
<5faam8$e...@news.ox.ac.uk>...
> 1 - What do you do when held by a Venus Fly Trap? I couldn't kill it
> becuase I wasn't right next to it and I couldn't get away. I threw things
> at it but they wouldn't hit it. argh.
to it. My advice is hit it as hard as you can. They are not very tough
and are fairly easy to kill.
> 2 - What are all the monsters. So far from reading and playing I have
>
> A=Aquator B=Bat C=Centaur D=Dragon E=Emu F=Fly Trap G=Griffin H=Hobgoblin
> I=Ice Monster J=jabberwock K=Kestral L=Lepracaurn M=Medussa N=Nymph O=Orc
> P=? Q=Quagga R=Rattlesnake S=Snake T=Troll U=Ur-Vile V=? W=Wraith X=Xerox
> Y=Yeti and Z=Zombie.
>
> What are P and V? I assume V is a vampire. . . What's the order of
> 'toughness'? I haven't really met anything that is harder than a Troll,
> except due to Polymorph.
P is a Phantom. These are invisible and they "flit" like a bat - that is
they don't stand in one place while they kill you like most of the
monsters. V as you guessed is a Vampire. Vampires special ability is
that they permanently drain your hit points when they hit you.
>
> In case of emergancy is there anything special one should do if one meets
> a Medusa etc?
Run away! :-) A Medusa's attack has a 1 in 4 (?) chance of confusing you
making them very difficult to kill. A potion of healing is useful for
curing confusion but you need lots of them so this is not overly useful.
The best way to kill a Medusa is to hit it with arrows from a distance.
> Thanks
>
> Don't waste to much time! :-)
I hope this helps.
Joe Borsellino
James Davey wrote:
> 1 - What do you do when held by a Venus Fly Trap? I couldn't kill it
> becuase I wasn't right next to it and I couldn't get away. I threw
> things at it but they wouldn't hit it. argh.
>
Just stand toe to toe (or toe to leaf) and punch the crap out of it.
Make sure hit points are up.
> In case of emergancy is there anything special one should do if one
> meets a Medusa?
I found that throwing a potion of confusion helps you get away. It
confuses you, so why not confuse it. It seems that they can only confuse
you once, so confuse them....get unconfused yourself (takes a little
while), then got toe to toe.
Just wait till you see a Griffin!! Big bastards!!
JB
Suzanne Panetta
P is a phantom. Its invisible, so watch out.
Urviles and Griffins are probably the worst monsters. Keep an eye on
your hit points and keep polymorph handy!!
After fighting a few of these, those trolls will seem easy.
Suzy
Avital Pilpel
Actually, if you get deep enough, the medusas are what does you in.
Also very nasty are the jabberwocks (harder than the griffins, but many
times asleep) and of course the Dragons are THE hardest monster.
Ur-Viles, actually, are not THAT hard. If you can hit them, then they
are quite possible to defeat. The problem is you need to have approx.
70 HP (and good strenght and a decent armor) to have a chance with an
Ur-vile face to face when you do not want o use magic.
Griffins and Medusas, OTOH, are practically impossible to defeat without
magic unless you have an incredibly strong character, something around
90 HP with 22+ strenght, a two handed sword, and good armor, and even
then it's a tough battle.
Also, I DID manage to defeat a Jabberwock face to face without magic -
once!
Suzanne Panetta
You are right. I forgot about the Jabberwocks. Its been a while
since I got that far and lately its the Griffins that are getting me.
Medusas, Dragons, and Jabberwocks are the hardest, as you have said.
Suzy
Bob Shair
Avital Pilpel <ap...@columbia.edu> writes:
>
>Actually, if you get deep enough, the medusas are what does you in.
>Also very nasty are the jabberwocks (harder than the griffins, but many
>times asleep) and of course the Dragons are THE hardest monster.
I think of the wand of "drain life" as the Medusa Slayer.
It still works when confused.
>Ur-Viles, actually, are not THAT hard. If you can hit them, then they
>are quite possible to defeat. The problem is you need to have approx.
>70 HP (and good strenght and a decent armor) to have a chance with an
>Ur-vile face to face when you do not want o use magic.
Got trapped in a corridor between two Ur-Viles this morning.
Died again.
>Griffins and Medusas, OTOH, are practically impossible to defeat without
>magic unless you have an incredibly strong character, something around
>90 HP with 22+ strenght, a two handed sword, and good armor, and even
>then it's a tough battle.
>
>Also, I DID manage to defeat a Jabberwock face to face without magic -
>once!
I've killed a number of them by the
"hit then run in a circle", or the
"hit then hide in a maze"
tricks.
Hiding in a maze doesn't work on all versions of rogue.
Running in a circle (from room to room) does, but
of course you risk getting trapped between the monster you're
fleeing and another wandering monster (see this morning's death).
--
Bob Shair Open Systems Consultant
1018 W. Springfield Avenue rms...@uiuc.edu
Champaign, IL 61821 217/356-2684
< Not employed by or representing the University of Illinois >
Linley Henzell
Neil Merrick wrote:
>
> James Davey <magd...@sable.ox.ac.uk> wrote in article
> <5faam8$e...@news.ox.ac.uk>...
> >
> > A=Aquator B=Bat C=Centaur D=Dragon E=Emu F=Fly Trap G=Griffin H=Hobgoblin
> > I=Ice Monster J=jabberwock K=Kestral L=Lepracaurn M=Medussa N=Nymph O=Orc
> > P=? Q=Quagga R=Rattlesnake S=Snake T=Troll U=Ur-Vile V=? W=Wraith X=Xerox
> > Y=Yeti and Z=Zombie.
> >
> > What are P and V? I assume V is a vampire. . . What's the order of
> > 'toughness'? I haven't really met anything that is harder than a Troll,
> > except due to Polymorph.
Ur-viles are much nastier than trolls. I've only ever met one, thought.
Griffins are nasty as well.
> > In case of emergancy is there anything special one should do if one meets
> > a Medusa etc?
> Run away! :-) A Medusa's attack has a 1 in 4 (?) chance of confusing you
> making them very difficult to kill. A potion of healing is useful for
> curing confusion but you need lots of them so this is not overly useful.
> The best way to kill a Medusa is to hit it with arrows from a distance.
Another trick to use with Medusas (this also works with babblers and
gorgons in MAG, and Umber hulks in pchack) is to fight it in a corridor,
especially a dead end. This way, if you get confused, you can keep
pressing the direction key and it will only register as a move if you
either attack the medusa or move away from it. The problem with
confusion is the chance of making a move to the side which doesn't
attack the creature, but lets it attack you for that move; being in a
corridor prevents this. Mind you, it is usually better to avoid these
creatures in the first place.
>
> > Thanks
> >
> > Don't waste to much time! :-)
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Neil
> --
> http://www.netkonect.co.uk/b/brenford/wimbledon/
Linley
Bob Shair
Linley Henzell <z...@olis.net.au> writes:
>Neil Merrick wrote:
>>
>> James Davey <magd...@sable.ox.ac.uk> wrote in article
>> <5faam8$e...@news.ox.ac.uk>...
>snip
>> > 2 - What are all the monsters. So far from reading and playing I have
>> >
>> > A=Aquator B=Bat C=Centaur D=Dragon E=Emu F=Fly Trap G=Griffin H=Hobgoblin
>> > I=Ice Monster J=jabberwock K=Kestral L=Lepracaurn M=Medussa N=Nymph O=Orc
>> > P=? Q=Quagga R=Rattlesnake S=Snake T=Troll U=Ur-Vile V=? W=Wraith X=Xerox
>> > Y=Yeti and Z=Zombie.
>> >
>> > What are P and V? I assume V is a vampire. . . What's the order of
>> > 'toughness'? I haven't really met anything that is harder than a Troll,
>> > except due to Polymorph.
V is indeed a vampire. P is a phantom, but you don't see it unless
you've quaffed a potion of "see invisible" or are wearing a ring of
"see invisible", so P's don't actually appear on the screen very often
even when they're killing you.
>
>Ur-viles are much nastier than trolls. I've only ever met one, thought.
>Griffins are nasty as well.
Yeah, but not only are Griffins worse than Ur-Viles, they're
MORE worse than Ur-Viles than Ur-Viles are than Trolls.
(There ought to be a way to say that in English, but I don't
think this was it).
When you start to see Griffins, Medusas, Jabberwocks and Dragons,
forget about killing monsters, put on that ring of stealth, and
dash down to level 26 to find the Amulet.
John Allen Middlebro'
'Allo.
I'm looking for a faq or similar thing where I can get general
rogue info. List of potions and scroll, rings and stuff and what they
do, stats for weapons and monsters..etc. can anyone help me?
I dont come on here, so please email me directly...
later...
Allen.