Arrow keys in nethack
nems
option in my ~/.nethackrc and exporting it to NETHACKOPTIONS, but
neither of those caused my arrows to work. Any help would be much
appreciated. ;)
Thanks,
looker
Adam N.
"nems" <hyl...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Add the line
OPTIONS=number_pad
to the game. If that doesn't make arrows work, nothing will-
but it frees up the keys for other commands; turn NUM LOCK
on and use the number pad to move then.
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nems
Well, the main problem is that I'm on a laptop. I dont really -have- a
numberpad :)
Any other suggestions as to how to get my arrows to wrok?
Thanks,
shawn
Adam N.
Urf... I'd say number_pad anyway. In most versions, it ends up mapping
the arrows to 8642 anyway, and works all the same.
--Adam
Tomasz Ostrowski
> Well, the main problem is that I'm on a laptop. I dont really -have-
> a numberpad :)
On laptop vi-like keys (no number-pad option) are much better:
yku
h l
bjn
Arrow keys don't have very useful NE, SE, SW and NW directions.
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nems
> On Mon, 08 Apr 2002 08:20:47 -0500, nems wrote:
>
>
>>Well, the main problem is that I'm on a laptop. I dont really -have-
>>a numberpad :)
>>
>
> On laptop vi-like keys (no number-pad option) are much better:
> yku
> h l
> bjn
> Arrow keys don't have very useful NE, SE, SW and NW directions.
>
>
They may be more useful for someone who is used to them, but its so much
easier for me to use arrows since thats what I'm used to. However I'm
figuring out how to use keymaps and loadkeys to remap 2,4,6 and 8 to m y
arrow keys :)
looker
james mcgill
>They may be more useful for someone who is used to them, but its so much
>easier for me to use arrows since thats what I'm used to. However I'm
>figuring out how to use keymaps and loadkeys to remap 2,4,6 and 8 to m y
>arrow keys :)
I'd go as far as to say that not having diagonal direction keys
is a senseless death waiting to happen.
yku
What the hell is so damned hard about h l ?
bjn
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>
> yku
> What the hell is so damned hard about h l ?
> bjn
Dunno. I've never gotten used to the vi keys in Nethack and I even use vi
daily. Number pad is so much easier.
Tuuli.
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james mcgill
>Dunno. I've never gotten used to the vi keys in Nethack and I even use vi
>daily. Number pad is so much easier.
Okay, so we have a terminal type that does not *have* a number pad.
This is a wonderful, fabulous alternative. I can't see anything but
certain death if you're limited to just up/down/left/right. And my
point is that there is at least one reader who seems to be willing to
sacrifice diagonal movement, range combat, and searching in favor of
using the very facility that makes his terminal useful.
The only downside whatsoever to the vi-style keymap is that the "y" key
might actually make you say "yes" to "Really attack the Priestess of Tyr"
or so, when moving northwest. The only other reason I can see that
this keymap would be inconvenient is on an international keyboard or
dvorak, but that's just a matter of setting the correct keys for
position. I have finally adjusted to the "b" key being on the left
hand side of ergo keyboards, and am tempted to change the keys to
yku
h.l
njm
I'm not buying that "number pad is so much easier", and especially not
for a terminal that does not *have* a number pad.
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Tuuli Tuominen
> Okay, so we have a terminal type that does not *have* a number pad.
> This is a wonderful, fabulous alternative. I can't see anything but
> certain death if you're limited to just up/down/left/right.
You're probably right.
> I'm not buying that "number pad is so much easier", and especially not
> for a terminal that does not *have* a number pad.
Oh. but for _me_ it is, since I'm used to it, and I rarely use a terminal
that does not have one. I was not stating a fact about vi keys, terminals,
number pads and what have you - I was just mentioning a personal tidbit (me
using vi every day and still not learning to play Nethack properly with vi
keys). Sheesh. :)
Tuuli.
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Tina Hall
> I'd go as far as to say that not having diagonal direction
> keys is a senseless death waiting to happen.
Don't even laptops have pos1, end and such keys? (Even if at an
inconvenient spot relative to the cursor keys.)
> yku
> What the hell is so damned hard about h l ?
> bjn
How about, the direction doesn't match the arrangement of the
keys? Not hard would be something like:
uio
j l
m,.
Your suggestion looks plain chaotic to me (even though people
here have explained it), and that's even assuming the y is
actually left of the u on the keyboard and not left of the x. :)
Really, trying to convert people to one or the other method is
not a wise move around here, just accept that some people don't
agree with your prefered method, just as you'd not like their
method.
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Jane Williams
mcgill) wrote:
>I'd go as far as to say that not having diagonal direction keys
>is a senseless death waiting to happen.
Agreed: been there, done that, and I can create enough senseless deaths
without help :(
> yku
>What the hell is so damned hard about h l ?
> bjn
Mainly because that's not where they are on the keyboard.
yu
hjkl
bn
H and L are easy enough, B isn't too bad, but look at K and U! And J and
N. Wrong way round.
I gave up. No number pad, no Nethack.
Mikko Parviainen
> Dunno. I've never gotten used to the vi keys in Nethack and I even use vi
> daily. Number pad is so much easier.
No, it isn't. B-)
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Jussi Ekholm
> Tuuli Tuominen <t...@iki.fi> wrote:
>> Dunno. I've never gotten used to the vi keys in Nethack and I even use vi
>> daily. Number pad is so much easier.
>
> No, it isn't. B-)
Yes, it is. O:-)
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Richard E. Hawkins
Tina Hall <Tina...@railroad.robin.de> wrote:
>james mcgill wrote:
>> yku
>> What the hell is so damned hard about h l ?
>> bjn
>How about, the direction doesn't match the arrangement of the
>keys? Not hard would be something like:
>uio
>j l
>m,.
>Your suggestion looks plain chaotic to me (even though people
>here have explained it), and that's even assuming the y is
>actually left of the u on the keyboard and not left of the x. :)
Now isn't having one keyboard for neutral characters, another for
chaotic, and yet another for lawful's going to cause *more* rather than
less confusion?
Besides, any mapping which gives up the vi mappings is plain and simply
evil!
>Really, trying to convert people to one or the other method is
>not a wise move around here,
Unless, of course, your luck, alignment, and level are sufficient . . .
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Richard E. Hawkins
Jussi Ekholm <ekh...@AOXOMOXOAgoa-head.org.invalid> wrote:
>Mikko Parviainen <mvpa...@cc.hut.no.ei.ole.invalid> wrote:
>> Tuuli Tuominen <t...@iki.fi> wrote:
>>> Dunno. I've never gotten used to the vi keys in Nethack and I even use vi
>>> daily. Number pad is so much easier.
>> No, it isn't. B-)
>Yes, it is. O:-)
Boy, I'll bet you couldn't handle Word Star, either :)
hawk, who may never get the word star commands out of his fingers
Tina Hall
> In article <MSGID_2=3A2437=2F22.13=40fidonet_0b46caf7@fidonet.
> org>, Tina Hall <Tina...@railroad.robin.de> wrote:
[vi keys arrangement versus direction<->key related arrangement]
> >Your suggestion looks plain chaotic to me (even though people
> >here have explained it), and that's even assuming the y is
> >actually left of the u on the keyboard and not left of the x.
> >:)
>
> Now isn't having one keyboard for neutral characters, another
> for chaotic, and yet another for lawful's going to cause
> *more* rather than less confusion?
<g> Probably. Nethack's not supposed to be easy. ;P
> Besides, any mapping which gives up the vi mappings is plain
> and simply evil!
Good! I like evil. :)
> >Really, trying to convert people to one or the other method
> >is not a wise move around here,
>
> Unless, of course, your luck, alignment, and level are
> sufficient . . .
It's still the convertee's choice to do the sacrifice. :)
<clutching my dear number pad with a wild look> You never gonna
get me! <evil laugther>
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Richard Bos
> In article <slrnab6dk4...@AOXOMOXOAgoa-head.org.invalid>,
> Jussi Ekholm <ekh...@AOXOMOXOAgoa-head.org.invalid> wrote:
> >Mikko Parviainen <mvpa...@cc.hut.no.ei.ole.invalid> wrote:
>
> >> Tuuli Tuominen <t...@iki.fi> wrote:
> >>> Dunno. I've never gotten used to the vi keys in Nethack and I even use vi
> >>> daily. Number pad is so much easier.
>
> >> No, it isn't. B-)
>
> >Yes, it is. O:-)
>
> Boy, I'll bet you couldn't handle Word Star, either :)
The Wordstar keys have one enormous advantage over the vi ones: the
movement keys are in a rhomboid position. For me (and YMMV!), this means
much easier handling. Still, I prefer the number pad; it's even easier,
and has the diagonals in the correct position.
Richard
nems
Not to interrupt this debate, but lets get back to... how the heck can I
use my arrow keys since the BIOS option doesnt work? =)
thanks,
looker