arg! why does the RNG hate me?
DBD
I was having a GREAT game as a samerii, I had found a huge book shop on
Dlvl3 which included 15 ID scrolls! I bought them all, in the knowlege that
I would easily be able to bless them later in the game and never have to
worry about the identity of anything in the future, but then the RNG
decided it had been to nice to me and decided to kill me. I had (for the
first game in AGES) been running desperately low on food, so my only xp5
sameri went to the mines to get some, but a dwarf lord attacked, taking
12HP a turn. I feld, only to be surrounded later, so I cheated - Ctrl-X and
recoverd the game. However I was attacked even more fiercly and killed
before I had a chance to do anything.
Beware the RNG!
Cyde Weys
"DBD" <d...@email.com> wrote in message
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Aghhh! No cheating!!!
Inataysia
>arg! why does the RNG hate me?
"probably because of something did."
>so I cheated - Ctrl-X and
>recoverd the game. However I was attacked even more fiercly and killed
>before I had a chance to do anything.
"That was it."
yes i know that the cheating happened after the death. however i
believe my conclusion is correct.
"like logic, but different!"
now. the three quotations above are from (imo) popular webcomics
and/or QnA sites. can anybody spot the references? i know they're
pretty vague, but they all stick in my mind, so they might in yours
too.
the answers, rot13'ed for your protection:
znfgreavawn.pbz
craal-nepnqr.pbz
veevgnovyvgl (abg fher jurer gur pheerag nepuvirf ner)
--phil
David Damerell
>recoverd the game. However I was attacked even more fiercly and killed
>before I had a chance to do anything.
It hates you because you cheat.
--
David Damerell <dame...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> flcl?
Cyde Weys
"David Damerell" <dame...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote in message
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> DBD <d...@nospam.myrealbox.com> wrote:
> >arg! why does the RNG hate me?
> >12HP a turn. I feld, only to be surrounded later, so I cheated - Ctrl-X
and
> >recoverd the game. However I was attacked even more fiercly and killed
> >before I had a chance to do anything.
>
> It hates you because you cheat.
RNG is like God - He sees all, knows all, and punishes for all. It is only
by the good grace of the RNG that you survive - and cheating surely does not
put you in good graces.
DBD
I dont normally cheat, only this time because of all those scrolls, I
suppose that taught me. Is the RNG in nethack purely random, or do the
DevTeam controll it with some fancy AI? I'm prtty sure its random, but, it
seems to be alive!
--
What men deserve: For we each of us deserve everything, every luxury that
was even piled in the tombs of the dead Kings, and we each of us deserve
nothing, not a mouthful of bread in hunger. Have we not eaten while another
starved? Will you punish us for that? Will you reward us for the virtue of
starving while others ate? No man earns punishment, no man earns reward.
Free your mind of the idea of deserving, the idea of earning, and you will
be able to think. - Ursula Le Guin, the Dispossessed
Kassandra Velez
>Is the RNG in nethack purely random, or do the
>DevTeam controll it with some fancy AI? I'm prtty sure its random, but, it
>seems to be alive!
The 'G' in 'RNG' is often said to stand for 'God'. You now know why.
Paul
> >
> > RNG is like God - He sees all, knows all, and punishes for all. It is
> > only by the good grace of the RNG that you survive - and cheating surely
> > does not put you in good graces.
>
> I dont normally cheat, only this time because of all those scrolls, I
> suppose that taught me. Is the RNG in nethack purely random, or do the
> DevTeam controll it with some fancy AI? I'm prtty sure its random, but, it
> seems to be alive!
Ahh, the glory of Nethack. It is not controlled by fancy AI (open
source you can check) but it is the best part of Nethack.
Cyde Weys
"Paul" <Vice...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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The Nethack source code is the most obfuscated code ever, but lurking within
the fluffy megabytes is the most heinous, devious game AI ever. You can't
see it by looking at the source because it's cleverly hidden in using extra
randomization functions and clever #ifdefs and comments that sometimes just
aren't exactly comments ... yes, there is a God in Nethack.
<source: http://www.ioccc.org/ >
Cyde Weys
"Cyde Weys" <vze2...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Paul" <Vice...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:9463b583.02040...@posting.google.com...
> > DBD <d...@email.com> wrote in message
> news:<3caca...@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com>...
> > > >
> <source: http://www.ioccc.org/ >
Here's a good example of obfuscated C code. It's an ASCII picture that,
when compiled and run, prints out another ASCII picture; compile THAT ASCII
picture and run to print out yet ANOTHER ASCII picture! But wait, we're not
done yet; compile that ASCII picture and run to loop back to the first ASCII
picture ... of course, it can be compiled and run as well :-)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------
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"+e6!0f%k)d7!+~^'c7!)z/d-+!'n%a0(d5!%c1a+/d4"
"!2)c9e2!9b;e1!8b>e/! 7cAd-!5fAe+!7fBe(!"
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+143;)if(33-( b=d [ f++ X ] )
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[w++]=34;for X(i = 35 +
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{for(i=92; i<b; i
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else o [w++ ]
=10;o [
w]=0 ;
puts(o);}
------------------------------------------------------------------
But this is all nothing compared to what NETHACK does with its source code!
It's the most intelligent AI ever, smarter than your average Nethacker ...
it uses distributed computing amongst all the people playing Nethack across
the globe ... and it finds new and clever ways to kill you. It lets a few
people ascend every once in a while such that they don't give up, so it can
continue to torment and aggravate those that continue playing.
The Random Nethack God Is A Very Powerful Deity.
Davide Inglima - limaCAT
Yani:
Shift+X
Beware! From explore mode there will be no return to normal game.--More--
Do you want to enter explore mode? [yn] (n) y
You hear the rumble of a distant thunder...
--
Davide Inglima - limaCAT