Nethack Code 1.3a (was Re: A moral issue about a recovered character)

[Yoshi348]

For nobody who read the original thread, somebody used the code in
their sig, then people started talking about how dead it was, and then
I got bored. So...

--------------------- The NetHack Code 1.3a --------------------------

Maintained by Raisse the Thaumaturge (rai...@valdyas.org, in real
life: Irina Rempt-Drijfhout) from an idea seeded by Ed Chang and taken
up by Dan Shiovitz. Updated for version 3.3.0 by Dylan O'Donnell.
Updated for 3.4.1 by Aaron Davidson.

Version information:

This is another maintenance release only. Real improvements
still have to wait until version 2. (yeah, sure... ;)

Forthcoming: inventory, playing speed, variants, et cetera.

Changes in this version: fixed 2, !@W, PS and section numbers; added
to W;
added a platform.

Acknowledgements:

Aero (ae...@clark.net) contributed large chunks of $, E, PS, PP, N, b
and B, and also gave me the idea to put it into the first person;
Ed Chang (cha...@sina.eecs.berkeley.edu) contributed I and part of
Sp and suggested the short overview, and John Fouhy
(jfo...@actrix.gen.nz) made some helpful suggestions for Sp.
Philipp Lucas (phl...@online-club.de) commented on some of the
1.2 updates. Wingnut (j...@pinn.net) made several *? suggestions.

Pat Rankin, Adam Atkinson, Jukka Lahtinen, Viljo Viitanen, as well as
a number of people whose names were unfortunately vaporized by a
scroll of install Linux, told me about platforms.

Martin Read (mp...@hermes.cam.ac.uk) was probably the first person
actually to *use* it.

Raisse, killed by strangulation

0. Overview

Abbreviations

[ Armor PP Polypile
) Weapons G Genocide
2 Two-weapon C Conflict
P Prayer I Intrinsics
S Sacrifice @W The Wizard of Yendor
D Donations N Nurses
p Pets Y PYEC
$ Gold X Experience
t Treasure So Sources
s Shops Sp Spoilers
W Wishing sb Save file backups
E Elbereth wb Wizard bones
PS Polymorph self + Death

Examples

NH 3.3.0L D Raisse-Wiz-Hum-Fem-Neu HP:150 Pw:150 AC:-20
/* no L or T as this is a "D" code */
[+ )++ 2 P S+ D+ p++ $ t s++ W+ E PS+ PP+ G C I++
@W(*) N !Y X+ So Sp++ sb-- !wb

NH 3.3.0L A Reakk-Bar-Hum-Mal-Neu HP:161(257) Pw:65 AC:-40 L:20
T:54959
[+++ )++ !2 P S++ D++ p $ !t s W+ E--- PS-- PP++ G+ C- I++
@W(8)tw N-- !Y X++ So++ Sp++++ !sb wb-- +0

NH 3.4.1W C Yoshi-Val-Hum-Fem-Law HP:114 Pw:28 AC:-13 L:12 T:24887
[+ )+ 2 P S D !p $ t+ s+ W++ E- PS- PP+ G+ C- I++
!@W N Y+ X-- So+ Sp+++ !sb wb- +0

1. Preliminaries

NH

This is just to show that it's not a *geek* code.

Version

For instance: 3.4.1, +, S'EM
If you play more than one version either separate with a slash or
put the less often used one in parentheses, e.g. S'EM(3.3.0)

Platform

Your type of machine. This list is far from exhaustive, but it's
being worked on.

D DOS
U Unix
L Linux
M Mac
V VMS
P Psion
At Atari
Am Amiga
Ac Acorn
O OS/2
W Windows 95/98/Me/XP
WN Windows NT
CE Windows CE

Type

The type of game that the NHC refers to:

D default - usual or preferred playing style
A ascension - latest or best ascension
C current game
F most fun game
+ silliest, saddest, most stupid or most spectacular death
(optionally include cause of death)

2. Status line

Name, class, race, gender, alignment - these should be self-evident.

Note: if you've got "D" for Type above, you can use the rest of this
section to indicate the minimum you want before you feel comfortable.

Hit points

Maximum hit points; optionally current hit points with max HP
in parentheses, as they appear on the status line.

Power

Maximum power; optionally current power with max Pw in
parentheses, for spellcasting types.

AC

This is your AC in full (usual) armor. Put intrinsic (naked) AC in
parentheses if you're so inclined. This could eventually be
refined to include AC with special equipment or a range of AC
in different circumstances.

Level

Self-evident. Could include XP but that would probably be
redundant unless you're level 30.

Turns

If your status line shows them. Same goes for score.

3. Equipment

--- This section starts a new line of the NHC ---

[ Armor

[+++ I go for the best and nothing less, if I have to wish
for every single thing. I enchant it till it vibrates. Not
satisfied with anything worse than AC-40. I enjoy the
lengthy discussions on the newsgroup about the
relative merits of +5 oilskin over GDSM versus SDSM
and a cloak of magic resistance.

[++ My first wish goes on DSM and I spend quite some time to get
properly kitted out (speed boots, shield of reflection,
gauntlets of power or dexterity, oilskin cloak), but I don't
mind waiting until I can polypile or buy something if I
don't have it right away. AC should be at least around -30
before I enter Gehennom.

[+ I wear dwarvish mithril, an iron helm and well-enchanted
boots, gloves and cloak. Or maybe I'm a Monk and I'm having
to make up a lack of body armour by filling the other slots
with good items.

[ I try to get my AC well below zero before I do anything
potentially dangerous. Most of my equipment comes from
Boyabai's used armor dealership, the Gnomish Mines or
soldiers' barracks.

[- I wear whatever is handy, as long as I have some kind of
gloves to protect myself from carelessly tinning a
cockatrice. I'm still wearing that +2 orcish helm that I
picked up in the Mines. If something gets damaged I get
myself a new one from a passing elf or hill orc.

[-- I'm in cursed, rusty, tattered or otherwise deplorable
armor.

![ I'm trying to ascend naked.

) Weapons

)+++ I know all the damage tables by heart and carry a +7
artifact weapon for every occasion.

)++ I have an artifact weapon appropiate for my alignment,
enchanted to +6 or so, and wield that by preference unless
something comes up that asks for other measures. All my
weapons are properly blessed and rustproofed.

)+ I have an artifact weapon, but no scroll of enchant weapon
yet so it's still at +0. Throwing daggers is not beneath me.

) I have a favourite weapon and I'm so comfortable with it
that I don't even know or care what it does extra damage to,
if anything.

)- I've just been made Envoy of Balance and wouldn't give up
Vorpy if it became cursed, rusty and -2.

)-- I'm wielding a pick-axe.

)--- I'm wielding a cursed sling.

!) I'm trying to ascend bare-handed.

4. Playing style

2 Two-weapon combat

2+++ A +7 silver saber goes with anything. I'll wear an amulet of
unchanging just so my Wizard can two-weapon.

2++ I'm wielding two well-enchanted weapons whenever I can. One
of them's an artifact if I can manage it. I only play
classes that can two-weapon.

2+ Two weapons are better than one in the more dangerous
situations.

2 If I'm not restricted in two-weapon, I'll use it if I've got
weapons that make it worthwhile.

2- I usually prefer wearing a shield for reflection or the
extra AC.

2-- I can't two-weapon, and I don't give a darn.

!2 Two-weapon combat is unbalanced. I won't use it.

2? Why does my weapon resist being held second?

P Prayer

P++ I've hacked the source to have my prayer timeout on the
status line so I can get the maximum out of my god.

P+ I plan my prayers so as to have the most chance to get my
god to do what I want.

P I pray whenever I'm in need. All the better if I'm close to
an altar and have a potion or two of water handy.

P- I usually forget to pray until it's too late.

P-- I've pissed off my god by praying once too often.

!P Gods? Who needs them?

S Sacrifice

S++ I've set up a base in a temple, collected and charged bags
of tricks and wands of create monster, and sacrifice until
I'm blue in the face and my god finally gives me
Grayswandir.

S+ I try to convert most altars I come across and hang around
for a bit to see if my god feels like giving me something.

S I make a sacrifice on every co-aligned altar - just in case.

S- I've accidentally #offered a white unicorn on a lawful
altar.

S-- I've accidentally converted myself.

S--- I've accidentally converted myself, and now my Quest Leader
doesn't want anything to do with me.

!S I'm an atheist. If it didn't make such a lot of difference
in my score I'd rather escape with the Amulet of Yendor than
sacrifice it.

D Donations

D++ I plunder Fort Ludios as well as every vault I can find and
donate time and time again for that extra point of
protection or that extra time of clairvoyance.

D+ I collect enough gold to donate until the priests start
appreciating my selfless generosity.

D I donate whatever I have to the priest in Mine Town and when
I meet another one I'll see if I have some more in store.

D- If I happen to have some gold I don't mind giving it to a
priest, but mostly it's just too much trouble.

D-- I've strayed and need those donations to have the priests
absolve me.

D--- All I ever get is two bits for an ale.

!D I'd rather wear a cloak of protection, thank you.

D? Do priests need money then?

p Pets

p+++ I make an art out of taming one pet after another and
polymorphing them into ever more powerful creatures.

p++ I like to keep a pet or two on hand, preferably powerful, to
take care of priests and shopkeepers.

p+ I try to keep my pets alive as long as possible and tame
some more if I lose them. When they trip a poly trap or
obstinately refuse to move off the poly pile it's nice if
they turn into something interesting.

p Pets are all right to lift things from shops and to spot
cursed items, but it's no great loss if they snuff it.

p- Pets are a nuisance, but deliberately losing them goes just
a little too far.

p-- I forget my pet on level 1.

p--- I kill that annoying pet on level 1.

!p All my pets get killed by falling rocks.

p? Why is the studio audience applauding?

$ Gold

$++++ I am Croesus.

$+++ I hang onto every zorkmid I encounter. When I get identify
scrolls, the first thing I do is bless them and identify all
my gems, and then sell them all to shopkeepers. I train my
pets to steal them back so I can sell them again. Croesus
has a bank account with me.

$++ When there's a vault on the level, I'll waste as much time
as needed with a pick-axe in order to find it. My goal in
life is to buy as much protection as I can before I hit
level 10. I don't buy from shopkeepers - that's what pets
are for!

$+ I like the score that money gives me. I burn up potions of
object detection just to find vaults. But if I'm carrying
so much that I'm stressed, I have no qualms about dropping
it.

$ I'm a spender, not a saver. If I find an 'ad aerarium'
message I'm inclined to go and pick up the loot,
but like the cookie says, "money lost, little lost".
Let's not forget priests...

$- Money is the first thing I drop when I get burdened. I carry
just enough for my immediate needs and leave the rest for
the dwarves to pick up.

$-- I load my sling with zorkmids instead of rocks.

!$ I'm trying for a no-intrinsic-protection ascension. Don't
even tempt me with money.

$? As soon as I pick up a zorkmid that #%@$& lep runs up and
robs me!

t Treasure

t++ I've identified every gem and worked out exactly how much my
collection is worth. I intend to polypile rocks before I
depart this world for the Elemental Planes.

t+ I've identified most gems and keep the most valuable ones
to take to the next world. The rest goes to unicorns, or to
shopkeepers when I run out of cash or credit.

t I've identified all colours of glass by killing glass
golems, so I can safely assume that all the rest are gems.
Whenever a scroll of identify has a slot left I use it on *.

t- I'm not going to waste my valuable scrolls of identify on
mere baubles.

t-- I carry a sack full of unidentified gems.

t--- I use my touchstone without checking to see if it's cursed
first.

!t I can't be bothered with treasure - it just adds encumbrance
that I've got better uses for.

s Shops

s+++ Shops exist for me to plunder, shopkeepers exist to rob
blind or kill as soon as I get a chance.

s++ Shops are fun. I can get rid of all those useless items and
make some money in the process. Shopkeepers are there for me
to outwit and get the merchandise from under their noses.

s+ I like to go shopping with my pet, sell something, buy
something, steal something, whatever takes my fancy.

s I buy a thing or two when I need it and while I'm inside
sell some spare items, but I'm not really interested.

s- I don't bother searching for shops, they never have the
things I need anyway.

s-- I'd genocide shopkeepers if I could.

!s The only shop in my current game is the lighting store in
Mine Town and it only stocks cursed brass lanterns and
mimics.

s? Who is that person cursing shoplifters?

5. Indulgences and restrictions

W Wishing

W++++ I'd wish for my own Quest artifact and the Amulet if I'd
get away with it. As it is I'll have to settle for other
classes' Quest artifacts.

W+++ I wish for artifact weapons even if they're the wrong
alignment. In the early stages of the game I quaff from
every fountain until a water demon either kills me or gives
me a wish.

W++ Everyone needs the blessed +2 Magicbane.

W+ I consider wishing for artifacts an abuse if not a cheat,
but everything else I can get is all right to wish for.

W I wish for what I need as and when I need it.

W- I wish for speed boots only to find a pair in the armor shop
on the next level down.

W-- I wish I could do without wishing.

W--- I tend to die with two blessed magic lamps in my BoH.

!W I'm on a wishless ascension.

W? I typed in "+7 GDSM", so why didn't I get it?

E Elbereth

E+++ If I can't get Magicbane, my first wish is for an athame
so I can engrave 4 copies of the E-word on every square.

E++ I keep a magic marker or a wand of lightning on hand
especially to write the E-word. I also write it in the dust
with my fingers on every occasion, if only as an exercise
in wisdom.

E+ I put at least one E-word on each level, just in case. I'm
glad I picked up Magicbane from that bones pile, or I would
have been dead six times over.

E I'm a wizard. 'Nuff said.

E- I write the E-word only as a last resort.

E-- I'd like to be able to use the E-word, but all my daggers
have gone dull.

E--- The E-word is for wimps. Grayswandir works much better.

!E My source code has #define ELBERETH commented out.

E? What was it again? "Owlbreath" or "Galadriel"?

PS Polymorph self

PS+++ I'm a xorn who occasionally polymorphs into a human.

PS++ A ring of polymorph control is one of my first priorities.
Once I've got it I rarely spend time as anything except a
vampire lord. I've genocided humans, just in case.

PS+ Wands of polymorph have better uses, but I'll drink from a
sink all day. I have a few favourite forms to poly into and
know what to use them for. Also, it's sometimes profitable
to become a new (wo)man, elf, etc.

PS Polymorphing has its uses, but it tends to happen to me at
the wrong times. I don't drink from sinks till I have dragon
scale mail.

PS- I can do a lot more damage in my own form.

PS-- Polymorphing is just a good way to lose your cloak and
armor.

PS--- I'm wearing a cursed ring of polymorph.

PS? Why do I keep turning into all those monsters?

PP Polypiling

PP++++ My name is Efembe.

PP+++ I set up a base in an empty locked room in Mine Town and
another one in Fort Ludios and carefully sort, cancel and
polypile anything that could yield something.

PP++ I've had a few fits of polypiling and now I'm collecting
stuff for the next one.

PP+ I collect unicorn horns and figurines to polypile for magic
markers. There's nothing like turning a huge pile of corpses
into K-rations.

PP I've polypiled once or twice to get everything I want - now
I can just leave useless stuff lying around.

PP- I never seem to get the right stuff by polypiling, so I'd
rather save that wand of polymorph to use on monsters or on
myself.

PP-- I've been killed by too many iron golems.

!PP Polypiling's more balanced than it used to be, but I still
consider it a challenge not to use it.

PP? Shuddering vibrations? Could that be the famous vibrating
square?

G Genocide

G+++ I use an amulet of unchanging to safely genocide my own
race. By the time I reach the Planes, everything's A, E, and
&.

G++ I really go over the top genociding. I've even been known
to genocide my own race. Reverse-genocide is my hobby.

G+ I have a "must-genocide" list, work on that carefully,
and keep extra scrolls for when I run into serious trouble.

G I genocide purple worms early in the game to let shriekers
shriek away all they like. I'll do L and R when (if?) I get
that far.

G- I genocide indiscriminately without first checking if the
scroll is cursed.

G-- I was killed by a genocide spell.

!G "Live and let live".

G? Why did genociding @ kill my orcish barbarian?

C Conflict

C+++ I eat my ring of conflict as soon as I get the chance.

C++ My ring of conflict is never far out of reach. My preferred
weapon is Stormbringer.

C+ I use my ring of conflict to create havoc and join the fray.

C I use my ring of conflict to create havoc so I can get away.

C- I have a ring of conflict in a bag somewhere.

C-- My ring of conflict is on my hand - and cursed.

!C I do without conflict because I want the XP for myself.

C? Why is my kitten biting me?

I Intrinsics:

I+++ I keep a checklist of every possible intrinsic from the
spoilers and mark them off as I go along. I often spend
time as a xorn to eat all those yummy rings.

I++ I have an idea of which intrinsics I need in the different
stages of the game, and I know how to get them.

I+ I make it a point to eat floating eyes and tengu.

I I play Barbarians so I can eat everything.

I- I eat leprechaun corpses to get out of shops and have been
killed by every shopkeeper in the dungeon.

I-- I usually die after attacking floating eyes hand-to-hand.
If I survive to Gehennom, I die from losing strength to the
fire traps.

I--- My Valkyries choke on white dragon corpses.

!I I don't eat corpses and avoid crowning.

I? I just felt a chill - who left the door open?

6. @W The Wizard of Yendor

--- This section starts a new line of the NHC ---

This takes arguments in () to indicate what you did to him, what he
did to you (alternatively: what you're prepared to do to him once you
meet him) and how many times you killed him before you finally got
him off your back.

s I stoned him.
sSs I stoned and unstoned him for mucho points.
w I zapped a wand of death at him.
t I tinned him.
d He double-troubled me.
* (as the only argument except (#)) Anything goes with the Wiz.

(#) I killed him # times.

!@W I've never even seen him.

@W? I've never even heard of him.

!@W? I got the Amulet of Yendor and escaped with it - now why
didn't I win?

7. Abuses

N Nurses

N+++ I've crashed the game by overflowing the hit point variable.

N++ I don't only dance with nurses, but carefully prepare a room
for it on a no-teleport level and work out a
wield-and-unwield schedule to get my HP well into the
hundreds.

N+ I dance with nurses to get into shape for important events,
such as killing the Wizard, but let events take their
natural course after I've called them in.

N I'm willing to strip for a nurse if there's nothing
harmful in the vicinity.

N- I'd like to try the nurse dance, but I've run out of scrolls
of genocide and/or unholy water.

N-- I don't take my clothes off for any monster, not even a
nurse.

!N I avoid nurses like the plague.

N? You cannibal! You will regret this!

Y PYEC

Y++ I use my first wish to get the PYEC and only play neutral
characters for that express purpose.

Y+ I wish for the PYEC if I'm neutral and have everything
else I want.

Y I'm a tourist. I've justly deserved it, and I can make the
best use of it.

Y- I've tried to get the PYEC, but it slipped through my
hands.

Y-- I found the PYEC on a bones pile and use it for opening
doors.

!Y I don't wish for quest artifacts.

Y? "Please, Mr. Asidonhopo, may I charge it?"

8. Experience and knowledge

X Experience

X++++ I've ascended every combination of race, class and
alignment. There isn't a challenge ascension I haven't done.

X+++ I've ascended every class and I've done a few vegetarians
and atheists too. Now for the really challenging handicaps.

X++ I've ascended most classes and am now trying to do without
some things that make it too easy.

X+ I've ascended a few classes, but I'm not up to a handicap
game yet.

X I've been in Gehennom and got swallowed by Juiblex.

X- I've seen Medusa, worse luck.

X-- I can't seem to be able to get past the Oracle level.

!X I can't seem to be able to leave level 1. Or figure out what
the keys do, for that matter.

X? HEY ALL YOU HACKERS DO YOU KNOW A HACK FOR ms wORD???????

So Sources

So++++ I'm on the Dev Team.

So+++ I've memorized large chunks of the source code and have
hacked my own version of NH.

So++ I have the sources on-line and refer to them frequently.

So+ I've looked at the source and understood most of it.

So I've looked at the sources, but my C isn't what it used
to be.

So- I don't bother with the sources. Let the real wizards
do that if they like.

So-- I can't figure out what the .h files are for.

!So Reading source takes the fun out of the game.

So? Hey -- where are the line numbers and GOTO's in this
program?

Sp Spoilers

Sp+++++ My name is Dylan O'Donnell

Sp++++ I've written publicly available spoiler files.

Sp+++ I know most public spoiler files practically by heart and
have written some for my own personal use.

Sp++ I know all sorts of esoteric stuff, but I still get
surprised every now and again. I know what weapons and
armour to use, and which monster corpses do what.

Sp+ I've read all the spoilers and occasionally refer to them
if I'm not sure what a message means.

Sp I don't mind reading spoilers posted to the newsgroup.

Sp- I rely on the Oracle. If I can't afford a consultation, I
tend to die from being poisoned or wearing the wrong armor.

Sp-- I rely on fortune cookies.

!Sp I'm going to solve this damn game by myself, no matter how
long it takes.

9. Cheats

sb Save file backups

sb++ Of course I back up save files. It's the only way to win.

sb+ I back up save files to insure against particularly stupid
deaths. I've even been tempted to use them on occasion.

sb I make backups to insure against typos.

sb- I back up save files, but I've never used one.

sb-- I make backups to insure against irrecoverable game crashes.

!sb I don't make backups on principle.

sb? I don't know where the save files are on my system.

wb Wizard bones

wb++ I deliberately create bones files in wizard mode so I can
cheat without actually doing anything illegal.

wb+ I save bones files created in wizard mode, never mind what's
in them.

wb I use wizard bones when I find them and silently thank
whoever left them.

wb- There seem to be no wizard bones on our system.

wb-- I delete all wizard bones from the system.

!wb I object to using wizard bones files and if I do find one
I leave all the stuff well alone.

wb? I don't know how to get into wizard mode, let alone how to
leave a bones file.

10. Death (yours)

+# Number of times died. N/A in a "D" code - everybody hopes
to die 0 times, of course.

--
-Yoshi348

"Thinking is the hardest work there is, which is the probable reason
so few engage in it." -Henry Ford

[Seraph]

"Yoshi348" <yosh...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in news:ibhma.177$%13.151074
@newssrv26.news.prodigy.com:

> [Nethack code]

A few suggestions

> p-- I forget my pet on level 1.
>
> p--- I kill that annoying pet on level 1.

Perhaps:

p--- I used the 'nopet' option

p---- The first thing I did was eat my kitten kitten

> t Treasure
> [snip]

t? Why can't I drop this grey stone?

--
Most people believe that if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Engineers believe that if it ain't broke, it doesn't have enough features
yet.

[Philipp Lucas]

On Sun, 13 Apr 2003 17:33:02 GMT, "Yoshi348" <yosh...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

>--------------------- The NetHack Code 1.3a --------------------------

Suggestions:

>D Donations

D+++ I always try the protection racket.

>p Pets

>
> p-- I forget my pet on level 1.

Replace this with "'none' is my favourite pettype." or something like
that.

>E Elbereth

>
> E I'm a wizard. 'Nuff said.

Not anymore.

>Y PYEC

I don't think that the PYEC is that abusable anymore. Do people still
wish for it?

>8. Experience and knowledge
>
>X Experience

X+++++ I've ascended an illiterate pacifist extinctionist.

--
Philipp Lucas
phl...@online-club.de

[kcolrawyksthgin]

On Sun, 13 Apr 2003 20:33:16 +0200, Philipp Lucas
<phl...@online-club.de> wrote:

>>E Elbereth
>>
>> E I'm a wizard. 'Nuff said.
>
>Not anymore.

Well, not so much anymore. But Wizards still get Magicbane...

>>X Experience
>
>X+++++ I've ascended an illiterate pacifist extinctionist.

X++++++ illiterate pacifist atheist extinctionist.

X+++++++ hungry illiterate pacifist atheist extinctionist.
--
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[Yoshi348]

Philipp Lucas wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Apr 2003 17:33:02 GMT, "Yoshi348"
> <yosh...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Suggestions:
>
>> D Donations
>
> D+++ I always try the protection racket.

Ok.

>> p Pets
>>
>> p-- I forget my pet on level 1.
>
> Replace this with "'none' is my favourite pettype." or something
> like that.

But that's boring... I'll consider it.

>> E Elbereth
>>
>> E I'm a wizard. 'Nuff said.
>
> Not anymore.

Not quite sure what to replace it with.

>> Y PYEC
>
> I don't think that the PYEC is that abusable anymore. Do people
> still wish for it?

I wasn't that old school. Did the PYEC get powered down in recent
years?

>> 8. Experience and knowledge
>>
>> X Experience
>
> X+++++ I've ascended an illiterate pacifist extinctionist.

That's covered in X++++ ("There isn't a challenge ascension I haven't
done.")

[Yoshi348]

Seraph wrote:
> "Yoshi348" <yosh...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
> news:ibhma.177$%13.151074 @newssrv26.news.prodigy.com:
>
>> [Nethack code]
>
> A few suggestions
>
>> p-- I forget my pet on level 1.
>>
>> p--- I kill that annoying pet on level 1.
>
> Perhaps:
>
> p--- I used the 'nopet' option
>
> p---- The first thing I did was eat my kitten kitten

I used the 'nopet' option seems so... boring. What good is this if you
can't have fun with it? But I did fit the eat the kitten thing into my
next draft.

>> t Treasure
>> [snip]
>
> t? Why can't I drop this grey stone?

Yeah, but that's not really treasure, just a gray stone.

[Quietust]

On Sun, 13 Apr 2003 17:33:02 GMT, "Yoshi348" <yosh...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

> Platform
> ...

> W Windows 95/98/Me/XP
> WN Windows NT

Technically, Windows XP (and 2000, which you didn't mention) should be
grouped with Windows NT.

--
Quietust, QMT Productions (http://qmt.ath.cx/)
* My email address does not include ".com"
P.S. If you don't get this note, let me know and I'll write you another.

[Seraph]

"Yoshi348" <yosh...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in news:r9jma.211$%13.183808
@newssrv26.news.prodigy.com:

> Seraph wrote:
>> "Yoshi348" <yosh...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
>> news:ibhma.177$%13.151074 @newssrv26.news.prodigy.com:
>>
>>> [Nethack code]
>>
>> A few suggestions
>>
>>> p-- I forget my pet on level 1.
>>>
>>> p--- I kill that annoying pet on level 1.
>>
>> Perhaps:
>>
>> p--- I used the 'nopet' option
>>
>> p---- The first thing I did was eat my kitten
>

> I used the 'nopet' option seems so... boring. What good is this if you
> can't have fun with it? But I did fit the eat the kitten thing into my
> next draft.

True, but I feel it should be in there somewhere, I never use pets, and I
kill the ones that I get on accident (I also have very little sucess with
Wizards, Arcs, Healers and Tourists, go figure).

Maybe make p! the nopet option (a slightly better way of phrasing it is
probably in order), and move the current p! "All my pets die from falling
rocks" (or something to that effect) into the p-- spot.

>>> t Treasure
>>> [snip]
>>
>> t? Why can't I drop this grey stone?
>
> Yeah, but that's not really treasure, just a gray stone.
>

Well, that was the point. Grey stones and gems are both *, and both fall
under the same inventory catagory.

[tomandcatherine]

Yoshi348" <yosh...@sbcglobal.net> wrote

> For nobody who read the original thread, somebody used the code in
> their sig, then people started talking about how dead it was, and then
> I got bored. So...

So, as long as we have it, I'll build my code, and comment on what I think
is missing...

NH 3.4.1 W C Phineas-Pri-Hum-Mal-Law HP:2076 PW:1619 AC:-88(-39) L:30
T:183935
[+++ )+++ 2-- P++ S+++ D+ p--- $ t++ s W+ E PS-- PP++++ G* C- I++
!@W N-- !Y X+ So+ Sp++++ sb-- !wb +1c

(This is fairly accurate for my current game -- I'm thinking about trying
to extinct all of the non-peacefuls in the dungeon.)

The code needs the following:

> S Sacrifice

S+++ I have carved out a deep altar-level to look like the bigroom, lit
every part of it, set up a pile of boulders to force approaching monsters
directly onto the altar, and I do whatever I can to get a spare +oCM for
when this one runs out in 80,000 turns. As long as I'm going to kill
stuff, I'm going to make sure it's standing on the altar when I do!

> s Shops

needs a modified setting somewhere between s and s+, which I'll call s*
for now
s* Shops are there primarily for me to identify items, and the
occasional pair of speed boots on level 2 is pretty nice!

> PS Polymorph self

!PS should be pretty self-explanatory... one of the few conducts I usually
try to keep!

> G Genocide

G* ?oGenocide + Unholy water = "summon nasties" for the player. 6 black
dragons in a room will shoot enough disintegration to take care of all my
problems, and 6 cockatrices + conflict will do about the same. Or maybe I
just like to nurse-dance or wraith lure, or badly need silver/gray dragon
scales and don't have any wishes.

> Y PYEC

Y* Who needs charging when you have b+FoD and Aethiopica? :)

Another form of abuse, you forgot:

Character Rerolling (IE restarting the game over and over again until you
get a good starting inventory)
rr+++ Until I start with a =oSD, +oID or +oMM, and smoky !oFH, I'm not
going to play!
rr++ I want that starting blindfold/magic lamp, and I'm willing to restart
the game to get it
rr+ If I get a really bad starting character (/oNothing and /oUndead
Turning and no food), I'll dump it and try again
rr I figure, if the character is bad enough I'll die in a couple levels
and get a better character then!
rr- I don't care how bad the RNG treats me in the pre-game, I'm going to
make a game of it!
rr-- ... in fact, I'll intentionally drop any good equipment I get at the
start of the game, just to be fair
!rr I start the game as random-random-random-random and play with
whatever I get.
rr? I started with a +1 scalpel. Is that good?

> 10. Death (yours)

Add symbols for what caused the deaths, if any were particularly
notable -- for example, c for cockatrice-related deaths, / for wands
(especially the standard Gnomish Wizard + /oD), L for lich-related deaths,
; for drowning, etc

so +2c1D would mean you died twice to 'trices and once to a dragon (maybe
use Db to mean Dragon - black?)

[Jimmy_B]

Yoshi348 wrote:
> [NetHack code]

> PS Polymorph self
>
> PS+++ I'm a xorn who occasionally polymorphs into a human.

Add PS++++: I use the initpoly patch.

> PP Polypiling
>
> PP++++ My name is Efembe.

Making this PP+++++ and insert: "I'm still killing unicorns in 3.3.1"
here.

> PP+ I collect unicorn horns and figurines to polypile for magic
> markers. There's nothing like turning a huge pile of corpses
> into K-rations.

C- and K-rations cannot be produced by polypiling (they can only be
generated in certain monster inventories.)

> PP- I never seem to get the right stuff by polypiling, so I'd
> rather save that wand of polymorph to use on monsters or on
> myself.
>
> PP-- I've been killed by too many iron golems.

Insert "Hey, what happened to my stash?" as PP-- and make this PP---.

> I Intrinsics:

I++++: I startscum to make sure certain rings are edible.

--
CalcRogue: TI-89 and TI-92+. <http://www.gis.net/~wssddc/jimmy_b/>.

[Yoshi348]

Well, I took some suggestions to heart, so now the code is...

--------------------- The NetHack Code 1.3a --------------------------

Maintained by Raisse the Thaumaturge (rai...@valdyas.org, in real
life: Irina Rempt-Drijfhout) from an idea seeded by Ed Chang and taken
up by Dan Shiovitz. Updated for version 3.3.0 by Dylan O'Donnell.
Updated for 3.4.1 by Aaron Davidson.

Version information:

This is another maintenance release only. Real improvements
still have to wait until version 2. (yeah, sure... ;)

Forthcoming: inventory, playing speed, variants, et cetera.

Changes in this version: fixed 2, !@W, PS and section numbers; added

to W, D, and p; added a platform; added RR.

Acknowledgements:

Raisse, killed by strangulation

0. Overview

Abbreviations

Examples

@W(*) N !Y RR X+ So Sp++ sb-- !wb

NH 3.3.0L A Reakk-Bar-Hum-Mal-Neu HP:161(257) Pw:65 AC:-40 L:20
T:54959
[+++ )++ !2 P S++ D++ p $ !t s W+ E--- PS-- PP++ G+ C- I++

@W(8)tw N-- !Y RR X++ So++ Sp++++ !sb wb-- +0

NH 3.4.1W C Yoshi-Val-Hum-Fem-Law HP:114 Pw:28 AC:-13 L:12 T:24887
[+ )+ 2 P S D !p $ t+ s+ W++ E- PS- PP+ G+ C- I++

!@W N Y+ RR X-- So+ Sp+++ !sb wb- +0

1. Preliminaries

NH

This is just to show that it's not a *geek* code.

Version

For instance: 3.4.1, +, S'EM
If you play more than one version either separate with a slash or
put the less often used one in parentheses, e.g. S'EM(3.3.0)

Platform

Your type of machine. This list is far from exhaustive, but it's
being worked on.

D DOS
U Unix
L Linux
M Mac
V VMS
P Psion
At Atari
Am Amiga
Ac Acorn
O OS/2
W Windows 95/98/Me

WN Windows NT/2000/XP
CE Windows CE

Type

2. Status line

Hit points

Power

AC

Level

Turns

3. Equipment

[ Armor

) Weapons

4. Playing style

2 Two-weapon combat

P Prayer

S Sacrifice

D Donations

D+++ I'm doing the protection racket.

p Pets

p--- I kill that annoying pet on level 1 and then feast on it's
entrails.

$ Gold

$++++ I am Croesus.

t Treasure

s Shops

5. Indulgences and restrictions

W Wishing

E Elbereth

PS Polymorph self

!PS I'm going for a no-polyself conduct.

PP Polypiling

into K-rations.

G Genocide

C Conflict

I Intrinsics:

7. Abuses

N Nurses

Y PYEC

Y-- Who needs charging when you have b+FoD and Aethiopica?

Y--- I found the PYEC on a bones pile and use it for opening
doors.

8. Experience and knowledge

X Experience

So Sources

Sp Spoilers

RR Rerolling

RR++ Until I start with a =oSD, +oID or +oMM, and smoky !oFH,
I'm not going to play!

RR+ If I get something non-useful like wand of locking, I'll
quit and try again.

RR I figure, if the character is bad enough I'll die in a

couple levels and get a better character then!

RR- I object to rerolling characters. It's bad bad icky poo
poo.

RR-- Wand of nothing and potion of paralysis? Sounds like a
challenge to me!

!RR I am a disiciple of the RNG.

RR? I'd like to re-roll, but I don't have any 20-sided dice!

[Mike Stevenson]

On Mon, 14 Apr 2003 00:17:25 GMT, "Yoshi348" <yosh...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

>Well, I took some suggestions to heart, so now the code is...
>
>--------------------- The NetHack Code 1.3a --------------------------

It was 1.3a before. Shouldn't it be 1.3b now?

[Yoshi348]

Mike Stevenson wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Apr 2003 00:17:25 GMT, "Yoshi348"
> <yosh...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> Well, I took some suggestions to heart, so now the code is...
>>
>> --------------------- The NetHack Code 1.3a
>

> It was 1.3a before. Shouldn't it be 1.3b now?

Except, by the time I'm done, It would be 1.3ZZg...

[Bwooce]

Yoshi348 <yosh...@sbcglobal.net> deserves a cookie for saying:

> Well, I took some suggestions to heart, so now the code is...

> --------------------- The NetHack Code 1.3a --------------------------

Yay.

NH 3.4.1L D Solomon-Wiz-Hum-Mal-Cha HP:100 Pw:150 AC:-10
[+ )++ 2 P+ S+ D+ p $ t+ s+ !W E- !PS !PP !G C- I++
@W(*) N-- !Y X+++ So++ Sp++ !RR !sb !wb

The only problem I noticed is a lack of granularity in X. What if
someone has ascended all classes, but not done atheist? ;)

--
Bruce Labbate | From distant star to this here bar
shiftless layabout | The me, the you
| Where are we now?
| - The Pixies

[David Corbett]

Jimmy_B at jim...@earthlink.net wrote on 4/14/03 9:09 AM:

> Yoshi348 wrote:
>> [NetHack code]

>
>> PP Polypiling
>>
>> PP++++ My name is Efembe.
>
> Making this PP+++++ and insert: "I'm still killing unicorns in 3.3.1"
> here.
>

You could add a section on 'bug abuses' for how much you use 'features' like
this.

>> PP+ I collect unicorn horns and figurines to polypile for magic
>> markers. There's nothing like turning a huge pile of corpses
>> into K-rations.
>
> C- and K-rations cannot be produced by polypiling (they can only be
> generated in certain monster inventories.)
>

True. Change to food rations or something.

>> PP- I never seem to get the right stuff by polypiling, so I'd
>> rather save that wand of polymorph to use on monsters or on
>> myself.
>>
>> PP-- I've been killed by too many iron golems.
>
> Insert "Hey, what happened to my stash?" as PP-- and make this PP---.
>

I can't be bothered polypiling.

By the way, Yoshi, you put 're-rolling' in the wrong section - it belongs in
Abuses (if not Cheats).

A suggestion: add Boudewijn's ? and ! additions from 1.2.2. (If we take the
t? suggested, we'd just need )? to complete the set.)
Are you interested in the Life Saving section I suggested?

[Yoshi348]

David Corbett wrote:
> By the way, Yoshi, you put 're-rolling' in the wrong section - it
> belongs in Abuses (if not Cheats).

Oops, I thought I put it in abuses. Silly me...

[Yoshi348]

Ok. Another version for you guys. Thanks for all the advice. I'd like
suggestions for a Sp?

--------------------- The NetHack Code 1.3c --------------------------

Maintained by Raisse the Thaumaturge (rai...@valdyas.org, in real
life: Irina Rempt-Drijfhout) from an idea seeded by Ed Chang and taken
up by Dan Shiovitz. Updated for version 3.3.0 by Dylan O'Donnell.
Updated for 3.4.1 by Aaron Davidson.

Version information:

This is another maintenance release only. Real improvements
still have to wait until version 2. (yeah, sure... ;)

Forthcoming: inventory, playing speed, variants, et cetera.

Changes in this version: fixed 2, PP, !@W, PS and section numbers;
added to W, D, and p and some ? and !; added a platform; added RR
and LS.

Acknowledgements:

Aero (ae...@clark.net) contributed large chunks of $, E, PS, PP, N, b
and B, and also gave me the idea to put it into the first person;
Ed Chang (cha...@sina.eecs.berkeley.edu) contributed I and part of
Sp and suggested the short overview, and John Fouhy
(jfo...@actrix.gen.nz) made some helpful suggestions for Sp.
Philipp Lucas (phl...@online-club.de) commented on some of the
1.2 updates. Wingnut (j...@pinn.net) made several *? suggestions.

Pat Rankin, Adam Atkinson, Jukka Lahtinen, Viljo Viitanen, as well as
a number of people whose names were unfortunately vaporized by a
scroll of install Linux, told me about platforms.

Martin Read (mp...@hermes.cam.ac.uk) was probably the first person
actually to *use* it.

Raisse, killed by strangulation

0. Overview

Abbreviations

[ Armor PP Polypile
) Weapons G Genocide
2 Two-weapon C Conflict
P Prayer I Intrinsics
S Sacrifice @W The Wizard of Yendor
D Donations N Nurses
p Pets Y PYEC

RR Rerolling

Examples

1. Preliminaries

NH

Version

Platform

Type

2. Status line

Hit points

Power

AC

Level

Turns

3. Equipment

[ Armor

[? Does this chain mail make my butt look big?

) Weapons

)+++ I know all the damage tables by heart and carry a +7
artifact weapon for every occasion.

)++ I have an artifact weapon appropiate for my alignment,
enchanted to +6 or so, and wield that by preference unless
something comes up that asks for other measures. All my
weapons are properly blessed and rustproofed.

)+ I have an artifact weapon, but no scroll of enchant weapon
yet so it's still at +0. Throwing daggers is not beneath me.

) I have a favourite weapon and I'm so comfortable with it
that I don't even know or care what it does extra damage to,
if anything.

)- I've just been made Envoy of Balance and wouldn't give up
Vorpy if it became cursed, rusty and -2.

)-- I'm wielding a pick-axe.

)--- I'm wielding a cursed sling.

!) I'm trying to ascend bare-handed.

)? I'm wielding my arrows, so why don't they shoot out?

4. Playing style

2 Two-weapon combat

P Prayer

P? I pray just before I eat, but now my god is mad anyway!

S Sacrifice

S++ I've set up a base in a temple, collected and charged bags
of tricks and wands of create monster, and sacrifice until
I'm blue in the face and my god finally gives me
Grayswandir.

S+ I try to convert most altars I come across and hang around
for a bit to see if my god feels like giving me something.

S I make a sacrifice on every co-aligned altar - just in case.

S- I've accidentally #offered a white unicorn on a lawful
altar.

S-- I've accidentally converted myself.

S--- I've accidentally converted myself, and now my Quest Leader
doesn't want anything to do with me.

!S I'm an atheist. If it didn't make such a lot of difference
in my score I'd rather escape with the Amulet of Yendor than
sacrifice it.

S? I tried to #offer the guard a bribe, but he just killed me
anyway.

D Donations

p Pets

$ Gold

$++++ I am Croesus.

t Treasure

t? It's kinda neat that they have different colored ammo for my
sling.

s Shops

s+++ Shops exist for me to plunder, shopkeepers exist to rob
blind or kill as soon as I get a chance.

s++ Shops are fun. I can get rid of all those useless items and
make some money in the process. Shopkeepers are there for me
to outwit and get the merchandise from under their noses.

s+ I like to go shopping with my pet, sell something, buy
something, steal something, whatever takes my fancy.

s I buy a thing or two when I need it and while I'm inside
sell some spare items, but I'm not really interested.

s- I don't bother searching for shops, they never have the
things I need anyway.

s-- I'd genocide shopkeepers if I could.

!s The only shop in my current game is the lighting store in
Mine Town and it only stocks cursed brass lanterns and
mimics.

s? Who is that person cursing shoplifters?

LS Life saving

LS+++ I use as many AoLS as I can get and I polypile or wish
for more.

LS++ I wear one at all times and keep several in reserve.
I wish for them when I run low.

LS+ I wear one most of the time and keep another in my BOH
as backup.

LS I'll wear one when things look dangerous, but most of the
time I have better uses for the slot.

LS- I have one, but only wear it as a last resort.

LS-- I have one in a bag somewhere. I think...

LS--- If I see one more troll getting its $@%&?! life saved,
I'll scream.

!LS I don't use AoLS at all.

LS? I love Lifesavers. They come in so many different flavours!

5. Indulgences and restrictions

W Wishing

E Elbereth

PS Polymorph self

PP Polypiling

into food rations.

G Genocide

C Conflict

I Intrinsics:

7. Abuses

N Nurses

?Y PYEC?

Y++ I use my first wish to get the PYEC and only play neutral
characters for that express purpose.

Y+ I wish for the PYEC if I'm neutral and have everything
else I want.

Y I'm a tourist. I've justly deserved it, and I can make the
best use of it.

Y- I've tried to get the PYEC, but it slipped through my
hands.

Y-- Who needs charging when you have b+FoD and Aethiopica?

Y--- I found the PYEC on a bones pile and use it for opening
doors.

!Y I don't wish for quest artifacts.

Y? "Please, Mr. Asidonhopo, may I charge it?"

RR Rerolling

[tomandcatherine]

"Yoshi348" <yosh...@sbcglobal.net> wrote

> suggestions for a Sp?

My car has a big spoiler to produce downforce when I hit my nitros.
or
"Yuck! Rotten food! Everything goes dark..." darn spoiled rations...
or
Can someone tell me what RGRN stands for?

> Acknowledgements:

It's generally considered good form to include all the names of everyone
whose suggestions you use here... *cough cough* ;)

> P Prayer

Needs to be a little more variation in here... maybe insert as a new P++
"I put my luckstone in my bag to decrease my chances of being crowned too
early, and increase my chances at getting AC and Golden Glows" or
something like that. Also maybe P--- "I pray cross-aligned altars to see
if I can get both gods mad at me!"

> t? It's kinda neat that they have different colored ammo for my
> sling.

HAHAHAHAHA awesome :)

> RR Rerolling

Well done... looks like you kept the best of mine, and improved on the
remaining ones. I like your RR-- and RR?

> wb? I don't know how to get into wizard mode, let alone how to
> leave a bones file.

How about
wb? I found a bones file with Magicbane once, so it was probably a
Wizard.

[David Corbett]

Yoshi348 at yosh...@sbcglobal.net wrote on 4/14/03 5:10 PM:

> Ok. Another version for you guys. Thanks for all the advice. I'd like
> suggestions for a Sp?
>

Boudewijn had: 'Don't you know you shouldn't eat spoiled corpses?'

> --------------------- The NetHack Code 1.3c --------------------------
>

Another beta version, I guess...
>
> 0. Overview
>
> Abbreviations
>
You're missing the LS :-)
> [ Armor

>
> [? Does this chain mail make my butt look big?
>

I prefer 'Why isn't my character wearing pants?' (Another of Boudewijn's.)
>

[Yoshi348]

tomandcatherine wrote:
> "Yoshi348" <yosh...@sbcglobal.net> wrote
>
>> suggestions for a Sp?
>
> My car has a big spoiler to produce downforce when I hit my nitros.
> or
> "Yuck! Rotten food! Everything goes dark..." darn spoiled
> rations... or
> Can someone tell me what RGRN stands for?

Hmm... maybe the last one, but I'm still open to more suggestions.

>> Acknowledgements:
>
> It's generally considered good form to include all the names of
> everyone whose suggestions you use here... *cough cough* ;)

Whoops. I knew I was forgetting something. Sorry.

>> P Prayer
>
> Needs to be a little more variation in here... maybe insert as a
> new P++ "I put my luckstone in my bag to decrease my chances of
> being crowned too early, and increase my chances at getting AC and
> Golden Glows" or something like that. Also maybe P--- "I pray
> cross-aligned altars to see if I can get both gods mad at me!"

I like your P--- suggestion. So much that I will shamelessly copy it
into my next draft. Except that we probably could piss off all three
gods. I wonder if that's a challenge ascension...

[Yoshi348]

David Corbett wrote:
> Yoshi348 at yosh...@sbcglobal.net wrote on 4/14/03 5:10 PM:

>> [ Armor
>>
>> [? Does this chain mail make my butt look big?
>>
> I prefer 'Why isn't my character wearing pants?' (Another of
> Boudewijn's.)

How about "Does not wearing pants make my butt look big?" <g>

[Raisse the Thaumaturge]

On Monday 14 April 2003 02:17 Yoshi348 wrote:

> Well, I took some suggestions to heart, so now the code is...
>
> --------------------- The NetHack Code 1.3a --------------------------
>
> Maintained by Raisse the Thaumaturge

Please make that "created" or something, because I don't intend to ever
maintain it any more...

Raisse, killed by a boulder

--
ir...@valdyas.org LegoHack: http://www.valdyas.org/irina/nethack/
Status of Raisse (piously neutral): Level 8 HP 63(67) AC -3, fast.

[Philipp Lucas]

On Sun, 13 Apr 2003, Yoshi348 wrote:

> Philipp Lucas wrote:
> > I don't think that the PYEC is that abusable anymore. Do people
> > still wish for it?
>
> I wasn't that old school. Did the PYEC get powered down in recent
> years?

Yes. In 3.4.1 a blessed PYEC will only bless-charge objects for Tourists.
In 3.1 (and maybe 3.2, I forgot) it worked also for other classes.

> > X+++++ I've ascended an illiterate pacifist extinctionist.
>
> That's covered in X++++ ("There isn't a challenge ascension I haven't
> done.")

I would change X++++ to "There isn't a conduct ascension I haven't done."
Just to seperate the pacifists from the illiterate atheistic pacifists.

--
Philipp Lucas
phl...@cs.uni-sb.de

[David Ploog]

tomandcatherine <tomandc...@attbi.com> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
x9kma.443642$L1.127050@sccrnsc02...
> Yoshi348" <yosh...@sbcglobal.net> wrote

>
> The code needs the following:
>

> > G Genocide
>
> G* ?oGenocide + Unholy water = "summon nasties" for the player. 6 black
> dragons in a room will shoot enough disintegration to take care of all my
> problems, and 6 cockatrices + conflict will do about the same. Or maybe I
> just like to nurse-dance or wraith lure, or badly need silver/gray dragon
> scales and don't have any wishes.
>

That's ok. But without this equation because that gives just too much away.
Sure, the whole of this code is extremely spoily, but you don't need to
make it even more so.

> Another form of abuse, you forgot:
>
> Character Rerolling (IE restarting the game over and over again until you
> get a good starting inventory)
> rr+++ Until I start with a =oSD, +oID or +oMM, and smoky !oFH, I'm not
> going to play!
> rr++ I want that starting blindfold/magic lamp, and I'm willing to

^^^^^
Are you playing a variant? ;-)

> restart the game to get it
> rr+ If I get a really bad starting character (/oNothing and /oUndead
> Turning and no food), I'll dump it and try again

I don't think one can start with a /Nothing. I believe that only "useful"
items find their way into starting inventory and "nothing" surely cannot
be described as useful...

>
> > 10. Death (yours)
>
> Add symbols for what caused the deaths, if any were particularly
> notable -- for example, c for cockatrice-related deaths, / for wands
> (especially the standard Gnomish Wizard + /oD), L for lich-related deaths,
> ; for drowning, etc
>
> so +2c1D would mean you died twice to 'trices and once to a dragon (maybe
> use Db to mean Dragon - black?)
>

I really like that idea. Here's another one:
% for choking (eating bad corpses but that's rarer)

David

[David Corbett]

David Ploog at h044...@rz.hu-berlin.de wrote on 4/14/03 8:58 PM:

> tomandcatherine <tomandc...@attbi.com> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
> x9kma.443642$L1.127050@sccrnsc02...
>> Yoshi348" <yosh...@sbcglobal.net> wrote
>>
>> The code needs the following:
>>
>>> G Genocide
>>
>> G* ?oGenocide + Unholy water = "summon nasties" for the player. 6 black
>> dragons in a room will shoot enough disintegration to take care of all my
>> problems, and 6 cockatrices + conflict will do about the same. Or maybe I
>> just like to nurse-dance or wraith lure, or badly need silver/gray dragon
>> scales and don't have any wishes.
>>
>
> That's ok. But without this equation because that gives just too much away.
> Sure, the whole of this code is extremely spoily, but you don't need to
> make it even more so.
>

There is the 'reverse genocide is my hobby' line in G++. Another idea:
G--- My dwarf was killed when I genocided h.

>>> 10. Death (yours)
>>
>> Add symbols for what caused the deaths, if any were particularly
>> notable -- for example, c for cockatrice-related deaths, / for wands
>> (especially the standard Gnomish Wizard + /oD), L for lich-related deaths,
>> ; for drowning, etc
>>
>> so +2c1D would mean you died twice to 'trices and once to a dragon (maybe
>> use Db to mean Dragon - black?)
>>
> I really like that idea. Here's another one:
> % for choking (eating bad corpses but that's rarer)
>

There's a bit at the top where you can specify cause of death (though not
many people use it), but it might be a good idea to have it at the end. I'd
clean up the format, so it would read +3ccD it the above case, for example.
Another suggestion: e for floating eye deaths

[Dion Nicolaas]

"Yoshi348" <yosh...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:<p6nma.41$%_3.2...@newssrv26.news.prodigy.com>...

> Well, I took some suggestions to heart, so now the code is...
>
> --------------------- The NetHack Code 1.3a --------------------------

If you think that version 1.3 is sort of stable, could you mail me a
version? I'd be happy to make it available on my website (at
http://www.nicolaas.net/erebus/nhcode/ , and now that I have a new
server, I'll try and revive the NHCodec-O-Matic project.

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[Boudewijn Waijers]

Yoshi348, cunningly disguised as yosh...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> Philipp Lucas wrote:

> I wasn't that old school. Did the PYEC get powered down in recent
> years?

It doesn't work like a blessed scroll of recharging anymore, except for
tourists, iIrc.

>>> X Experience

>> X+++++ I've ascended an illiterate pacifist extinctionist.

> That's covered in X++++ ("There isn't a challenge ascension I haven't
> done.")

Not really. But you could add X++++ as "I've done all challenge ascension
conducts in the same game", or something like that. It's a major
difference whether you did them all, or you did them all in one game...

On the other hand, there should be a limit to the number of pluses that
can be added after a letter (X++++++ would be rediculous: some of the +,
++, +++, ++++ or +++++ should be deleted in this case, imho).
--
Boudewijn Waijers (bwaijers at tiscali.nl).

There are 10 types of people in the world:
those who understand binary, and those who don't.

[Boudewijn Waijers]

Yoshi348, cunningly disguised as yosh...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

> Maintained by Raisse the Thaumaturge (rai...@valdyas.org, in real

Make that "Initiated by".

[Boudewijn Waijers]

Jimmy_B, cunningly disguised as jim...@earthlink.net wrote:
> Yoshi348 wrote:

> Add PS++++: I use the initpoly patch.

Patches shouldn't be included in the NetHack code. There would be no end
to it, and not many people actually use antyhing else but the standard
code.

>> PP++++ My name is Efembe.

> Making this PP+++++ and insert: "I'm still killing unicorns in 3.3.1"
> here.

But I'm not... I abandoned that game long ago. Also, I don't think adding
more than four pluses would be a good idea. Even for the Code, it would be
a bit over the top. :-)

[rekrutacja]

dwain wrote:

>>>> PP++++ My name is Efembe.
>>>
>

> For people like me who are wondering what the hell this is about; it's
> something from way back in 1994 and can, of course, be found at google:
>
> (remove ugly line break)
> http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=368to1%243am%40wsintt12.
> win.tue.nl&rnum=1

I have read (well... sometimes skipped) this incredible list of
staff, and found nothing about Efembe... Skipped one sentence too
much?

rekrutacja

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[rekrutacja]

rekrutacja wrote:

> I have read (well... sometimes skipped) this incredible list of staff,
> and found nothing about Efembe... Skipped one sentence too much?

I found it :-)))

Efembe the Magister St:18/** Dx:16 Co:18 In:14 Wi:18 Ch:17
Neutral S:1196356
Dlvl:12 $:0 HP:405(405) Pw:190(190) AC:-41 Xp:25/50014272
T:106430 Satiated

[nyra]

Philipp Lucas schrieb:

>
> On Sun, 13 Apr 2003 17:33:02 GMT, "Yoshi348" <yosh...@sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
>

> >--------------------- The NetHack Code 1.3a --------------------------
>

> Suggestions:
>
> >p Pets

> >
> > p-- I forget my pet on level 1.
>

> Replace this with "'none' is my favourite pettype." or something like
> that.

That'd be "!p".

> >E Elbereth

> >
> > E I'm a wizard. 'Nuff said.
>

> Not anymore.
>
> >Y PYEC

>
> I don't think that the PYEC is that abusable anymore. Do people still
> wish for it?

Yeah, i think this could go.

Oh, and how about a "Sex" statement (&) - attitude towards
incubi/succubi. As far as tendentially abused features go, this seems
to be one of the more popular flavours right now. Maybe alchemy, too
(although i couldn't for the life of me generate the statements for
it, as i'd have to give my attitude as "Al?").

> >8. Experience and knowledge

> >
> >X Experience
>
> X+++++ I've ascended an illiterate pacifist extinctionist.

I'd put "petless" in the place of "illiterate" ;)

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