Guy guarding Fort Ludios
Anduriel10
There this guy (forget his name) in the very heart of Fort Ludios. He's a
wimp but who the heck is he?
Rudi Alberda
Anduriel10 wrote:
>
> There this guy (forget his name) in the very heart of Fort Ludios. He's a
> wimp but who the heck is he?
He's called Croesus.
Irina Rempt
Anduriel10 (andur...@aol.com) wrote:
> There this guy (forget his name) in the very heart of Fort Ludios. He's a
> wimp but who the heck is he?
Croesus, and don't ever forget his name if you want to impress vault
guards :-)
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Anduriel10 wrote:
>
> There this guy (forget his name) in the very heart of Fort Ludios. He's a
> wimp but who the heck is he?
Croesus (Latin), Kroisos (Greek in Roman script), or Creosote
(Pratchettian) was famous in antiquity for being rich. 'As rich as
Croesus' has been proverbial for a _long_ time.
SRonald312
>Subject: Guy guarding Fort Ludios
>From: andur...@aol.com (Anduriel10)
>Date: 22 Jun 1997 23:12:51 GMT
>Message-ID: <19970622231...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
>
>There this guy (forget his name) in the very heart of Fort Ludios. He's
a
>wimp but who the heck is he?
He is Croesus, who my dictionary says was the king of Lydia (wherever
that is)
from 560 to 546 B.C. and was noted for his great wealth. Do you
expect a
rich king to be strong? :-)
Ron
Nan Wang
SRonald312 <srona...@aol.com> wrote:
> He is Croesus, who my dictionary says was the king of Lydia (wherever
> that is)
> from 560 to 546 B.C. and was noted for his great wealth. Do you
> expect a
> rich king to be strong? :-)
He should be, from lifting his wallet around all the time...
marino....@siemens.at
Betsy Perry <mep...@cms.cc.wayne.edu> writes:
>
> Anduriel10 wrote:
> >
> > There this guy (forget his name) in the very heart of Fort Ludios. He's a
> > wimp but who the heck is he?
>
> Croesus (Latin), Kroisos (Greek in Roman script), or Creosote
> (Pratchettian) was famous in antiquity for being rich. 'As rich as
> Croesus' has been proverbial for a _long_ time.
It might be time to add another class: (unix) Guru.
quest artefact: Dragon Book[1] (summons volatile tame dragons when invoked)
high int, medium wis, low con, low str, low cha, high dex
starts with Knock, perhaps Confuse Monster spellbooks, some wimpy choice
of weapons, ring of coffee (sleep resistence), faded T-shirt
Then we could have Gates as the Rich Guy :)
/Marino
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Ross J. Presser
On 24 Jun 1997 19:36:46 +0200, marino....@siemens.at wrote:
>Betsy Perry <mep...@cms.cc.wayne.edu> writes:
>
>>
>> Anduriel10 wrote:
>> >
>> > There this guy (forget his name) in the very heart of Fort Ludios. He's a
>> > wimp but who the heck is he?
>>
>> Croesus (Latin), Kroisos (Greek in Roman script), or Creosote
>> (Pratchettian) was famous in antiquity for being rich. 'As rich as
>> Croesus' has been proverbial for a _long_ time.
>
>It might be time to add another class: (unix) Guru.
>
>quest artefact: Dragon Book[1] (summons volatile tame dragons when invoked)
>
>high int, medium wis, low con, low str, low cha, high dex
>
>starts with Knock, perhaps Confuse Monster spellbooks, some wimpy choice
>of weapons, ring of coffee (sleep resistence), faded T-shirt
He should also be able to tame the mail daemon ... perhaps even
polymorph it into a long worm (like Morris's Internet worm). :)
>
>Then we could have Gates as the Rich Guy :)
Naah ... Gates should be the Dark One to a unix guru! :)
>
>/Marino
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Urpo Lankinen
On 24 Jun 1997 19:36:46 +0200, marino....@siemens.at
<marino....@siemens.at> wrote:
>Betsy Perry <mep...@cms.cc.wayne.edu> writes:
>
>>
>> Anduriel10 wrote:
>>>
>>> There this guy (forget his name) in the very heart of Fort Ludios. He's a
>>> wimp but who the heck is he?
>>
>> Croesus (Latin), Kroisos (Greek in Roman script), or Creosote
>> (Pratchettian) was famous in antiquity for being rich. 'As rich as
>> Croesus' has been proverbial for a _long_ time.
>
>It might be time to add another class: (unix) Guru.
>
>quest artefact: Dragon Book[1] (summons volatile tame dragons when invoked)
Yesss... at last.
>high int, medium wis, low con, low str, low cha, high dex
What do you mean, "Medium" wis? True Gurus know everything. Oh, maybe
the first rank is Novice, and when the character goes to Quest he's
Guru, with high wis.
>starts with Knock, perhaps Confuse Monster spellbooks, some wimpy choice
>of weapons, ring of coffee (sleep resistence), faded T-shirt
Confuse Monster instrinc ability. "Hey, you there, tell me what's
wrong with this sendmail.cf?" B-)
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Lenester Taxidean
On Wed, 25 Jun 1997 19:41:48, marino....@siemens.at wrote:
> Betsy Perry <mep...@cms.cc.wayne.edu> writes:
> It might be time to add another class: (unix) Guru.
>
> quest artefact: Dragon Book[1] (summons volatile tame dragons when invoked)
No, no, The Manual. 2% chance of random spell, wand, scroll, or potion
effect when applied, 98% chance of being stunned and confused. (You can
apply it to monsters - open it and force them to read.) Also, of course, it
does damage similar to that of an Iron Ball.
> high int, medium wis, low con, low str, low cha, high dex
What's this low con stuff? YOU try staying up for 40 hours straight if
you're sickly. Dexterity shouldn't be that great, although they might get a
bonus to their weapon proficiency increases due to extremely nimble
fingers.
> starts with Knock, perhaps Confuse Monster spellbooks, some wimpy choice
> of weapons, ring of coffee (sleep resistence), faded T-shirt
He should also start with a few blessed scrolls of identify (when he wants
to know what something is, he just checks a spoiler!). And the sleep
resistance should be an intrinsic.
> Then we could have Gates as the Rich Guy :)
Quest nemesis, of course. One hit point, but AC -95, magic resistance, and
the ability to jump. Carries several hundred thousand gold pieces and a
blessed +5 sling to hurl them at you.
Lenester Taxidean
li...@asis.com
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On 25 Jun 1997 09:20:01 GMT, www...@iki.fi (Urpo Lankinen) wrote:
>On 24 Jun 1997 19:36:46 +0200, marino....@siemens.at
><marino....@siemens.at> wrote:
>>Betsy Perry <mep...@cms.cc.wayne.edu> writes:
<snip about new class, 'Unix Guru'>
>>quest artefact: Dragon Book[1] (summons volatile tame dragons when =
invoked)
>
>Yesss... at last.
Ok, I give up..what's a Dragon Book? <iRL, that is...>
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>On 25 Jun 1997 09:20:01 GMT, www...@iki.fi (Urpo Lankinen) wrote:
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>>On 24 Jun 1997 19:36:46 +0200, marino....@siemens.at
>><marino....@siemens.at> wrote:
>>>Betsy Perry <mep...@cms.cc.wayne.edu> writes:
><snip about new class, 'Unix Guru'>
>
>>
>>Yesss... at last.
>
>Ok, I give up..what's a Dragon Book? <iRL, that is...>
It's a book by Aho and ?Ullman? on compiler design. Quite the classic, and I
don't have it, naturally.
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On Wed, 25 Jun 1997 23:25:09 GMT, StarChaser <Remove 'ANTI-SPAM' to
email> <obsi...@ANTI-SPAMpost1.com> wrote:
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>>On 24 Jun 1997 19:36:46 +0200, marino....@siemens.at
>><marino....@siemens.at> wrote:
>>>Betsy Perry <mep...@cms.cc.wayne.edu> writes:
><snip about new class, 'Unix Guru'>
>
>>>quest artefact: Dragon Book[1] (summons volatile tame dragons when invoked)
>>
>>Yesss... at last.
>
>Ok, I give up..what's a Dragon Book? <iRL, that is...>
:Dragon Book: /n./ The classic text "Compilers:
Principles, Techniques and Tools", by Alfred V. Aho, Ravi Sethi,
and Jeffrey D. Ullman (Addison-Wesley 1986; ISBN 0-201-10088-6),
so called because of the cover design featuring a dragon labeled
`complexity of compiler design' and a knight bearing the lance
`LALR parser generator' among his other trappings. This one is
more specifically known as the `Red Dragon Book' (1986); an earlier
edition, sans Sethi and titled "Principles Of Compiler Design"
(Alfred V. Aho and Jeffrey D. Ullman; Addison-Wesley, 1977; ISBN
0-201-00022-9), was the `Green Dragon Book' (1977). (Also `New
Dragon Book', `Old Dragon Book'.) The horsed knight and the
Green Dragon were warily eying each other at a distance; now the
knight is typing (wearing gauntlets!) at a terminal showing a
video-game representation of the Red Dragon's head while the rest
of the beast extends back in normal space. See also {{book
titles}}.
Josh Fishman
In article <slrn5r1on7....@wwwwolf.pp.fi>, www...@iki.fi (Urpo
Lankinen) wrote:
> On 24 Jun 1997 19:36:46 +0200, marino....@siemens.at
> <marino....@siemens.at> wrote:
>
> >It might be time to add another class: (unix) Guru.
I'd like it if this class were called "Operator". (There are equally nasty
VMS / MVS admins out there, and NetHack will compile on their machines,
too.)
> >quest artefact: Dragon Book[1] (summons volatile tame dragons when invoked)
Quest Artifact == LART (Weapon: 50% chance instakill 'mindless' monsters)
Quest Nemesis == Marketing Consultant / Marketing VP / Spamford Wallace
Quest Leader == Simes
Operator is Neutral. Diety is Eris.
Intrinsics must be earned:
level 5 => sleep resistance
level 11 => poison resistance (so the Twinkies don't take their toll)
level 20 => telepathy (so you can figure out what "it doesn't work" means)
Starting equiptment:
bow & 30 blessed +1 silver arrows (because "there is no silver bullet")
t-shirt
jackboots (high boots)
6 potions of speed called JOLT
6 potions of booze called BEER
2-5 candy bars
2-5 fortune cookies
3 random scrolls
(If SLASH: monster following you is "ISO 9000 SPECtre" -- paralyzing touch,
drains experience, puts you to sleep. Or maybe a "Y2K bug" -- puts you to
sleep, drains dexterity, gives you zorkmids.)
> >high int, medium wis, low con, low str, low cha, high dex
>
> What do you mean, "Medium" wis? True Gurus know everything. Oh, maybe
If they were wise, they never would have gotten into Systems Administration
/ Programming in the first place. :-P
> Confuse Monster instrinc ability. "Hey, you there, tell me what's
> wrong with this sendmail.cf?" B-)
scroll of sendmail.cf: (110 - INT)% chance of stunning you; else gain level.
"You read the scroll of sendmail.cf. --More--
You seem to have enjoyed it more than the mail deamon. --More--
You feel experienced! Welcome to level 12."
How about:
"You read the scroll labeled READ ME. --More--
You found a scroll of documentation! --More--
What would you like to know how to use first?"
?SoDoc identifies an item AND if blessed (1:8 chance each):
- increases your INT
- increases your WIS
- unconfuses / unstuns you
- decrements your prayer timeout by 100 /* gods LOVE it when you RTFM */
- increases your luck
What would happen if you read a Blessed Scroll of NetHack Source code, though?
- Josh, who will gladly add this (& other appropriate sillyness) when/if
he gets the fscking "Area Effects" code done...
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marino....@siemens.at
jmf...@is4.nyu.edu (Josh Fishman) writes:
>
> In article <slrn5r1on7....@wwwwolf.pp.fi>, www...@iki.fi (Urpo
> Lankinen) wrote:
>
> > On 24 Jun 1997 19:36:46 +0200, marino....@siemens.at
> > <marino....@siemens.at> wrote:
> >
> > >It might be time to add another class: (unix) Guru.
>
> I'd like it if this class were called "Operator". (There are equally nasty
> VMS / MVS admins out there, and NetHack will compile on their machines,
> too.)
Operator is superb. I was looking for a letter not yet used in NetHack,
and Sysadmin, Hacker, Programmer, etc. did not qualify.
Operator is it.
>
> > >quest artefact: Dragon Book[1] (summons volatile tame dragons when invoked)
My UNIX background shows :)
>
> Quest Artifact == LART (Weapon: 50% chance instakill 'mindless' monsters)
Don't know LART--could you explain, please?
> Quest Nemesis == Marketing Consultant / Marketing VP / Spamford Wallace
> Quest Leader == Simes
>
> Operator is Neutral. Diety is Eris.
Don't know Eris either. But, the chaotic diety ought to be Morris (of the
sendmail worm fame :) Lawful might be Evi (Nemeth: _Essentials of UNIX
System Administration_)
I still think Operator should be lawful.
>
> Intrinsics must be earned:
> level 5 => sleep resistance
> level 11 => poison resistance (so the Twinkies don't take their toll)
> level 20 => telepathy (so you can figure out what "it doesn't work" means)
Please add:
level 8 => speed (have you seen an admin in a tight spot--they're
*fast*)
level 14 => gem autoidentification (an experienced admin can tell
a programming gem in a glance :)
>
> Starting equiptment:
> bow & 30 blessed +1 silver arrows (because "there is no silver bullet")
But there is kill -9 :)
> t-shirt
Definitely faded, readable (spells something like US?NIX)
> jackboots (high boots)
Not all admins are Nazi's, though. Only evil ones. The others get
high sneakers (elven boots)
> 6 potions of speed called JOLT
I'd prefer Cola--Jolt is not universally known outside USA.
> 6 potions of booze called BEER
> 2-5 candy bars
> 2-5 fortune cookies
> 3 random scrolls
Scrolls should really be license key floppies.
Spellbooks == license books.
Amulets == CD-ROMs
Amulet of Yendor == OS Installation CD-ROM
Amulet of Strangulation == Nude Pix CD (your mind melts)
Book of the Dead == Unabridged POSIX Manual
>
>
> (If SLASH: monster following you is "ISO 9000 SPECtre" -- paralyzing touch,
> drains experience, puts you to sleep. Or maybe a "Y2K bug" -- puts you to
> sleep, drains dexterity, gives you zorkmids.)
Well, grid bug should be renamed into Y2K bug regardless of the version.
>
> > >high int, medium wis, low con, low str, low cha, high dex
> >
> > What do you mean, "Medium" wis? True Gurus know everything. Oh, maybe
>
> If they were wise, they never would have gotten into Systems Administration
> / Programming in the first place. :-P
>
> > Confuse Monster instrinc ability. "Hey, you there, tell me what's
> > wrong with this sendmail.cf?" B-)
>
> scroll of sendmail.cf: (110 - INT)% chance of stunning you; else gain level.
> "You read the scroll of sendmail.cf. --More--
> You seem to have enjoyed it more than the mail deamon. --More--
> You feel experienced! Welcome to level 12."
Sounds okay.
>
> How about:
> "You read the scroll labeled READ ME. --More--
> You found a scroll of documentation! --More--
> What would you like to know how to use first?"
>
> ?SoDoc identifies an item AND if blessed (1:8 chance each):
> - increases your INT
> - increases your WIS
> - unconfuses / unstuns you
> - decrements your prayer timeout by 100 /* gods LOVE it when you RTFM */
> - increases your luck
>
> What would happen if you read a Blessed Scroll of NetHack Source code, though?
Nothing. But you should be punished for cheating if you read the non-blessed
scroll of NetHack Source Code (scroll of punishment).
Since the Operator should be a wimp physically, I was thinking about his
#monster special ability: forking.
#m creates a controllable copy of the original, effectively doubling the
character turns (the keyboard focus switches among original and copies)
#m costs the originals exp. level in mana and uses additional exp. level
points of mana every 10 turns. A death of a forked Operator is not fatal
as long as at least one copy of Operator exists. This gives the low level
Operators better chances for survival and is almost prohibitively costly
for the high level characters.
#m toggles the forked state--you can have at most one copy. Leaving the
level cancels the forked state.
Being a wimp, the Opearator should have a use of a trolley which should be
easy to pull but difficult to pull through tight spots (20% chance of success).
A loaded trolley could be taken downstairs, but not upstairs (i.e. one would
have to carry his belongings piecemeal, in hands). Other classes could use
trolleys as well, but they would be guaranteed to spill the load pretty often
(10% chance, 1 to 5 items) losing turns needed to pick them up.
>
> - Josh, who will gladly add this (& other appropriate sillyness) when/if
> he gets the fscking "Area Effects" code done...
Hey, I wanted to implement that :) Could you use help?
/Marino
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Josh Fishman wrote on Thu, 26 Jun 1997 17:15:06 -0400 :
>
> What would happen if you read a Blessed Scroll of NetHack Source code, though?
>
10% chance of instant winning of the game. 90% instantly losing the game.
Reason: You know everything about nethack after reading the scroll.
Nevertheless, you suffer YASD 90% of the time.
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In article <iy7u3ik...@ws6423-f.i-have-a-misconfigured-system-so-
shoot-me>, marino....@siemens.at writes
<SNIP>
>
>> 6 potions of speed called JOLT
>
>I'd prefer Cola--Jolt is not universally known outside USA.
>
>> 6 potions of booze called BEER
>> 2-5 candy bars
>> 2-5 fortune cookies
>> 3 random scrolls
>
Europe tho... What about Red Bull/Dr Pepper/Pepsi/Coke instead?
Or even caffine pills or cold coffee? (=
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In rec.games.roguelike.nethack Chris Dunthorne <ch...@tin-god.demon.co.uk> wrote:
: In article <iy7u3ik...@ws6423-f.i-have-a-misconfigured-system-so-: >
: >> 6 potions of speed called JOLT
: >
: >I'd prefer Cola--Jolt is not universally known outside USA.
: >
: >> 6 potions of booze called BEER
: >> 2-5 candy bars
: >> 2-5 fortune cookies
: >> 3 random scrolls
: Jolt cola is quite widely know in the UK, don't know about the rest of
: Europe tho... What about Red Bull/Dr Pepper/Pepsi/Coke instead?
: Or even caffine pills or cold coffee? (=
_Computer Language_ did an article on C (as in "caffiene") in their
April issue one year. They ranked Mountain Dew the best (because it
had the highest caffeine of any except Jolt and was less likely to
stain (as measured by the Sleeve of Eratosthenes)). It also had good
documentation.
- J-Mag
Geoffrey Leeming
marino....@siemens.at wrote:
> jmf...@is4.nyu.edu (Josh Fishman) writes:
>
> > Intrinsics must be earned:
> > level 5 => sleep resistance
> > level 11 => poison resistance (so the Twinkies don't take their
> toll)
> > level 20 => telepathy (so you can figure out what "it doesn't
> work" means)
>
> Please add:
> level 8 => speed (have you seen an admin in a tight spot--they're
>
> *fast*)
> level 14 => gem autoidentification (an experienced admin can tell
>
> a programming gem in a glance :)
Or even:
level 20 => can summon daemons..... (or should that be Unix Guru
only?)
<prepare for the 'No no no, Windows is the spawn of Satan' flames>
Even better: Lawful operator becomes a Windows Guru, Neutral operator
becomes a VMS guru, Chaotic becomes a Unix Guru :-)
</prepare>
Maybe the Demon Lords should be renamed Bill, Jim, Gil etc.
No level teleport traps: how about '-- you find a router --'
No Oracle, just a large DNS...
oh I don't know, surely this is all getting far too self-referential :-)
G