Can I genocide the Wizard of Yendor?
Debbie Whitten
Ok, I'm in discovery mode, and I finally make it to the Wizard's castle,
kill him in 1 shot with a wand of death, and get the book of the dead AND
the Amulet of Yendor from him (is this the real amulet?).
I also managed to find the vibrating square, but realized I didn't have
the candelabrum, so I quit and re-started the saved game.
I finally have all the stuff I need uncursed and ready to use on the
vibrating square. I plan to find it, then go back to kill the Wizard. I
was planning to genocide him if I needed to.
Will that work? And does he really have the Amulet?
Deb
Matthieu Dazy
No... :) Or else what do you think the Book is good for ?
: I finally have all the stuff I need uncursed and ready to use on the
: vibrating square. I plan to find it, then go back to kill the Wizard. I
: was planning to genocide him if I needed to.
It's a good idea, but you cannot. This would be rather too easy. Anyway,
I'm not sure that even then you could get away with it...
: Will that work? And does he really have the Amulet?
The Wizard does NOT have the Amulet of Yendor. You need to kill him
before you can 'use' the vibrating square, since you need the Book of the Dead
to do it...
Happy hacking... :)
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>It does not matter what you do to the Wizard's corpse, he'll come back
>even if you tin the corpse ;-)
Tell me about it. In my various ascensions I've tried so many ways
to get rid of the wizard permanently, such as putting the corpse in
a BoH and purposely blowing it up, tinning him and polymorphing
the tin into a tripe ration which I fed to a dog, zapping him with
cancellation, eating the corpse myself, trying to sacrifice him to
Moloch, turn him into a statue, chop it up and scatter the
remains, at which point I gave up.
Does the Wizard ever come back after the Plane of Earth by the way?
Never seen him do that yet...
Mollusc-P, killed by the Wizard of Yendor (and his twin brother)
Debbie Whitten
Matthieu Dazy (Matthi...@scinfo.u-nancy.fr) writes:
> [did the Wizard drop the real amulet of Yendor?]
>
> No... :) Or else what do you think the Book is good for ?
Then why did it say it was the Amulet of Yendor? (I didn't have any
identify scrolls to check for sure).
>[can I genocide the Wizard of Yendor?]
> It's a good idea, but you cannot. This would be rather too easy. Anyway,
> I'm not sure that even then you could get away with it...
So much for that plan...So, do you have any advice on how to deal with the
Wizard? It's ok the first 1 or 2 times, but then I start running out of
wands of death...
Oh, and once he left a corpse (which I ate), but he still came back.
> The Wizard does NOT have the Amulet of Yendor. You need to kill him
> before you can 'use' the vibrating square, since you need the Book of the Dead
> to do it...
>
> Happy hacking... :)
Thanks! Well, wish me luck. I hope to actually get to activate the
vibrating square today.
Deb
Raisse the Thaumaturge
(ca...@sunthpi3.difi.unipi.it) wrote on Re: Can I genocide the Wizard of Yendor?
> It does not matter what you do to the Wizard's corpse, he'll come
back
> even if you tin the corpse ;-)
Yes. I ascended (my first and only time) with "a tin of Wizard of
Yendor meat" in my inventory. Had to kill him 13 times until he fell
through a trapdoor and disappeared out of sight forever.
> There is a way to ensure he won't come back, but it probably
exploits
> a bug and so I consider it an abuse:
>
> stand on the up stairs with the Wiz near you; throw him a potion of
> paralysis and climb the stairs. He won't come back (unless you visit
> the level again).
This is reputed not to work any more in 3.1.3. Don;t know if that
rumour is true though.
Raisse, killed by a newt
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Jukka Lahtinen
>kill him in 1 shot with a wand of death, and get the book of the dead AND
>the Amulet of Yendor from him (is this the real amulet?).
No, the wizard doesn't have the amulet in any 3.1.x unless he took it from
you. The real amulet is in the Sanctum where the high priest of Moloch
guards it.
>I also managed to find the vibrating square, but realized I didn't have
>the candelabrum, so I quit and re-started the saved game.
Quit and restarted AT THAT POINT OF GAME instead of just going to Vlad's
tower to get the candelabrum?
Wow, how demanding some people are!
>vibrating square. I plan to find it, then go back to kill the Wizard. I
>was planning to genocide him if I needed to.
>Will that work? And does he really have the Amulet?
No, it isn't possible to genocide the wizard. For the amulet.. see above.
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>Does the Wizard ever come back after the Plane of Earth by the way?
>Never seen him do that yet...
If you hang around in the endgame long enough--yes. High-tail it to the Astral
Plane and you may ascend before he comes back.
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Jukka Lahtinen
>> [did the Wizard drop the real amulet of Yendor?]
>Then why did it say it was the Amulet of Yendor? (I didn't have any
The game generates cheap plastic imitations of The Amulet, and they look
very real. One seems to always be generated on the Rogue level. You can
easily tell the real one by the place where you find it.. and once you pick
it up, you can #name it (as an individual object!) to something special
like "the real thing" so you know it later.
btne...@midtown.net
>I finally have all the stuff I need uncursed and ready to use on the
>was planning to genocide him if I needed to.
>
>Will that work? And does he really have the Amulet?
>
Yes, he really does have the Amulet of Yendor.
No, you cannot genocide the Wizard. But genociding all @'s is a very nice way
to kill yourself. (Unless......)
Balthorf the Wizard, killed by a burning book
Matthieu Dazy
: rumour is true though.
They say that in NetHack 3.1.3, paralysing the Wizard doesn't work anymore.
Well, the rumour is certainly false. I did it a couple of times already.
Torsten Edelmann
DW> Then why did it say it was the Amulet of Yendor? (I didn't have any
DW> identify scrolls to check for sure).
It was probably a "cheap plastic imitate of the Amulet of Yendor". But then my
characters were allways able to identify these as what they are. I'm not quite
sure if that is any kind of special abillity, that one has to acquire?!
DW> So, do you have any advice on how to deal with the Wizard? It's ok
DW> the first 1 or 2 times, but then I start running out of wands of
DW> death...
Well, One-Turn-Kills come in handy ... cockatrice corpses are quite good, even
though quite dangerous. You can also stand on the up staircase and when he
arrives throw a potion of paralyze at him. Then immediatly go upwards. Since
Paralyzing-counters on other levels are not updated, he should stay there for
the rest of time. Note, however, that I'm not sure if this is still possible in
NH 3.1.3 and that most people think this to be cheating.
In the end, you can simply duke it out with him...
DW> Oh, and once he left a corpse (which I ate), but he still came back.
It's just a new incarnation... the WoY is beyond mortal bindings... B-)
Sayonara...
Yakamoto-S; killed by an invisible Stalker in the Quest
!David / Kirsty Damerell
Chuan-Tze Teo <ct...@hermes.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>ca...@sunthpi3.difi.unipi.it (Massimo Campostrini) writes:
>>It does not matter what you do to the Wizard's corpse, he'll come back
>>even if you tin the corpse ;-)
>to get rid of the wizard permanently, such as putting the corpse in
>a BoH and purposely blowing it up, tinning him and polymorphing
>the tin into a tripe ration which I fed to a dog,
*snicker* At least next time he turned up you could tell him about it...
>Moloch, turn him into a statue, chop it up and scatter the
>remains, at which point I gave up.
Ummm. [Thinks of new feature] Scattering all the rocks between the
graveyards in the Valley of the Dead should work, if there was some way
to make it hard to do that... any ideas?
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John Fouhy
Debbie Whitten <bi...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote:
> Then why did it say it was the Amulet of Yendor? (I didn't have any
To make you pick it up, run all the way back up to level one, go up the
up stairs...
and escape the dungeon.
To check, all you need to do is see if it will go into a bag / chest / etc..
> So much for that plan...So, do you have any advice on how to deal with the
> Wizard? It's ok the first 1 or 2 times, but then I start running out of
> wands of death...
Get Vorpie or the ToM?
Or try to lose him somewhere..
In one of my ascensions, I went up into Vlad's tower and just hung around
until he turned up. Had a bit of difficulty with double trouble and
stealing and stuff, but eventually I had everything I wanted, I hadn't
killed him, and he wasn't next to me. Down the stairs...
...and he never bothered me again. Didn't even turn up on the plane of
Earth (which seems to guarantee him normally).
> Oh, and once he left a corpse (which I ate), but he still came back.
Bad idea, unless you're an elf.. You can get TC from it though.
Wolfe
>Tell me about it. In my various ascensions I've tried so many ways
>to get rid of the wizard permanently,
<snip>
Wow! that's by far more creative than I ever was. Well, he comes back
anyway. And the potion of paralysis trick doesn't work anymore, i've heard
(not sure).
>Does the Wizard ever come back after the Plane of Earth by the way?
>Never seen him do that yet...
Oh! yes he does. In my last ascencion he came *twice* in the astral plane,
one of which he double troubled...
The double trouble instance was solved by *one* zap of my WoD, which killed
*both*, now that's good luck.
I had never seen in the planes before (except earth, of course), but this
time I wanted to *clear* the astral plane and boy! it's hard...
Well, happy hacking.
Wolfe.
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Klaus Kassner
>In article <DLFKI...@freenet.carleton.ca>,
>Debbie Whitten <bi...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote:
>> Then why did it say it was the Amulet of Yendor? (I didn't have any
>> identify scrolls to check for sure).
>
>To make you pick it up, run all the way back up to level one, go up the
>up stairs...
>
>and escape the dungeon.
>
>To check, all you need to do is see if it will go into a bag / chest / etc..
>
>> So much for that plan...So, do you have any advice on how to deal with the
>> Wizard? It's ok the first 1 or 2 times, but then I start running out of
>> wands of death...
>
>Get Vorpie or the ToM?
>
>Or try to lose him somewhere..
>
>In one of my ascensions, I went up into Vlad's tower and just hung around
>until he turned up. Had a bit of difficulty with double trouble and
>stealing and stuff, but eventually I had everything I wanted, I hadn't
>killed him, and he wasn't next to me. Down the stairs...
>
>...and he never bothered me again. Didn't even turn up on the plane of
>Earth (which seems to guarantee him normally).
>
a potion of paralysis at him when he is two squares away and quaff raise
level. This way I managed once to kill him just a single time (I had to
kill death seventeen times later). Maybe this will even work without potion
of paralysis, but I never tried.
Janis Papanagnou
: Or try to lose him [The Wizard] somewhere..
: In one of my ascensions, I went up into Vlad's tower and just hung around
: until he turned up. Had a bit of difficulty with double trouble and
: stealing and stuff, but eventually I had everything I wanted, I hadn't
: killed him, and he wasn't next to me. Down the stairs...
: ...and he never bothered me again. Didn't even turn up on the plane of
: Earth (which seems to guarantee him normally).
I made a similar observation: I hit the Wiz until he got that frightened
to zap a wand of digging, and disappear to a lower level.
Well prepared to meet him at Earth level... no Wizard around.
What's about the preconditions of this "guaranteed" Wizard on Earth ?
Janis
Massimo Campostrini
> In my various ascensions I've tried so many ways
> to get rid of the wizard permanently, such as putting the corpse in
> a BoH and purposely blowing it up, tinning him and polymorphing
> the tin into a tripe ration which I fed to a dog,
I thougth I *really* hated the Wizard, but this is soooo nasty!
No wonder he comes after you :-)
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Aaron Mandelbaum
>bi...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Debbie Whitten) writes:
>>> [did the Wizard drop the real amulet of Yendor?]
>>Then why did it say it was the Amulet of Yendor? (I didn't have any
>The game generates cheap plastic imitations of The Amulet, and they look
>very real.
My first game ever I walked three steps and drank from a fountain. A demon
appeared and gave me a wish. I wished for the amulet of Yendor, walked back
three steps and up the stairs, saying 'Gee, that was easy.' Then I noticed
that I'd 'escaped' with a cheap plastic imitation... grr...
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Aaron Mandelbaum
Robert Schultz
Mandelbaum) wrote:
grr....??????????????? Why would you want to win so fasT?