Help needed editing .sav files for Nethack
Steve Coe
Howdy
Can anyone help me out. I`m trying to work out what needs to be edited
in the save file to increase the hitpoints of a character in NH3.2.1
for MSDOS.
I`ve looked through it, but decided asking would probably garner
better results:-) Yes, I know it`s cheating, and I make no claims as
to doing otherwise:-)
Thanks in advance
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Stephen Lee
In article <32fe8bf...@news.ucalgary.ca>,
Steve Coe <dr...@geocities.com> wrote:
>Can anyone help me out. I`m trying to work out what needs to be edited
>in the save file to increase the hitpoints of a character in NH3.2.1
>for MSDOS.
It would probably be easier to increase your hitpoint by spending the next
few weeks honing your skill at Nethack -- since the savefile is
checksum-protected, you'll either have to hack the executable itself or
spend a lot of time trying to figure out the new checksum to get any sort
of savefile hacking to work.
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Marcus Greer
Haven't edit hit points in the save file, but I have edited items in a
3.2.1 save file.
To raise your HP, you will need either a wand or a potion of extra
healing.
1. arrange your inventory so that it has letters a b c d e f g h in it
somewhere.
2. name the first item ( this helps you locate the data in a save file)
3. Save
4. copy your save file
5. open it with debug (or whatever)
6 scroll down until you find the name of item a
7. the letters b c d e etc should follow
if you had ONE potion of extra healing, look for a one about 6 byte
before its letter in your inventory. change it to about 20h. save. give
it a try. quaff your 32 PoXH for more HP.
8. IF you have a wand, a number between 42 and 58 hex will be 1 or 2?
bytes in front of its inventory letter. change the number to 4B to make
a WoW. If you know the # of charges, it will be nearby. Change it to 7F
to get (127) charges. Save, start for nethack and wish for all you
want. Just forget about prayer though.
Lots more can be done to save files. I have never adjusted HP or
abilities in the NH save file. (I hack the source for that) Having seen
the source, I know that NH can be compiled to produce different save
files, so all I have said might be for nothing on your version.
IT WORKS ON 3.2.1
I tested it a few minutes ago.
Marcus Grieger
In a message of 11 Feb 97 Marcus Greer <mmg...@ucdavis.edu (Marcus Greer)>
wrote:
MG> Haven't edit hit points in the save file, but I have edited items in a
MG> 3.2.1 save file.
[... blah ...]
MG> IT WORKS ON 3.2.1
MG> I tested it a few minutes ago.
If you're going to cheat the game this way, I don't think that you'll post an
ascension. And if you're not going to try a real ascension anyways, why don't
you use the wizard (debug) mode and just ^Wish for 127 potions of extra
healing?
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Steve Coe
On 11 Feb 1997 11:50:51 GMT, Martin Read <mp...@hermes.cam.ac.uk> used
some precious bandwidth saying:
>[save-file editing description]
>>IT WORKS ON 3.2.1
>>I tested it a few minutes ago.
>
>Not on a proper OS, though. Versions for proper OSes use gzip or
>compress to shrink the savefile after saving.
Since I was the original person who asked this question, i`d just like
to say that compressed or not, or whatever magic they weave on it,
editing the save the way Marcus said works fine. It was deeply amusing
as well:-) 555 hit points, and I STILL got killed. (SIGH!)
Marcus Grieger
In a message of 13 Feb 97 Steve Coe <dr...@geocities.com (Steve Coe)> wrote:
SC> Since I was the original person who asked this question, i`d just like
SC> to say that compressed or not, or whatever magic they weave on it,
SC> editing the save the way Marcus said works fine. It was deeply amusing
SC> as well:-) 555 hit points, and I STILL got killed. (SIGH!)
At last, you can't REALLY cheat NetHack :)
Marcus Greer
One of my versions of NH is hacked so that I can toggle wizard mode at
will. The method I posted was in response to someone who wanted to
alter the save file. I knew of such a method, so I replied.
For my "real" ascensions, I use nothing more powerful than backups of
saves. I am very much impressed by people who ascend with less. I also
question their sanity.
Lately, I've been looking for ways to make the game less aggravating,
but no easier.
Wizard mode has been helpful in determining other things. A little
while ago I found that the cornuthaum does NOT provide the magical
cancellation the code says it should.
Bruce Cox
Marcus Greer wrote:
>
> For my "real" ascensions, I use nothing more powerful than backups of
> saves. I am very much impressed by people who ascend with less. I also
> question their sanity.
Ah. That sort of real.
> Wizard mode has been helpful in determining other things. A little
> while ago I found that the cornuthaum does NOT provide the magical
> cancellation the code says it should.
In my experience, computers always doing exactly what the code says
they should. What evidence have you got to the contrary?
Cheers,
bruce
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In article <3307F8...@ucdavis.edu> Marcus Greer <mmg...@ucdavis.edu>
writes:
>
> For my "real" ascensions, I use nothing more powerful than backups of
> saves. I am very much impressed by people who ascend with less. I also
> question their sanity.
>
I backup my saves, but I usually only use them if the game crashes. I've
done 4 ascensions in the past two weeks, and only in one of them did I
"abuse" the backup of saves (I used it to ascend a priest after a YASD). I
don't know about sanity, it is just mostly a mixture of skill and luck.
> Lately, I've been looking for ways to make the game less aggravating,
> but no easier.
>
All I can say is practice, practice, practice. My first real ascension came
after a year of playing NetHack, and just now I've reached the point where I
can ascended a Valk probably 10% of the time.
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Steve Coe
On Wed, 12 Feb 1997 21:22:10 +0100, intr...@guardian.fido.de (Marcus
Grieger) used some precious bandwidth saying:
>In a message of 11 Feb 97 Marcus Greer <mmg...@ucdavis.edu (Marcus Greer)>
>If you're going to cheat the game this way, I don't think that you'll post an
>ascension.
No, you`re right, I won`t. For one thing I couldn`t be bothered to
type it all out.
>And if you're not going to try a real ascension anyways, why don't
>you use the wizard (debug) mode and just ^Wish for 127 potions of extra
>healing?
Because that`s way to simple. If you`re in Wizard mode, you can just
wish for all you want. I just hacked a wand to a WoW and wished for 3
things.
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Pat Rankin
In article <3307F8...@ucdavis.edu>, mmg...@ucdavis.edu writes...
[...]
> Wizard mode has been helpful in determining other things. A little
> while ago I found that the cornuthaum does NOT provide the magical
> cancellation the code says it should.
That 3.2.0 bug was fixed in 3.2.1, so is ancient history
by now....
Steve Coe
On Fri, 14 Feb 1997 20:52:31 +0100, intr...@guardian.fido.de (Marcus
Grieger) used some precious bandwidth saying:
> SC> Since I was the original person who asked this question, i`d just like
> SC> to say that compressed or not, or whatever magic they weave on it,
> SC> editing the save the way Marcus said works fine. It was deeply amusing
> SC> as well:-) 555 hit points, and I STILL got killed. (SIGH!)
>
>At last, you can't REALLY cheat NetHack :)
I still found it deeply amusing:-)
David/ Kirsty Damerell
Marcus Greer <mmg...@ucdavis.edu> wrote:
>For my "real" ascensions, I use nothing more powerful than backups of
>saves.
There is nothing more powerful than savefile backups.
>I am very much impressed by people who ascend with less. I also
>question their sanity.
The reason for this is that a) we are all insane, and b) if you backup
savefiles you never learn from your deaths in the way that a proper player
does, so in a very real sense the game is less difficult for us.
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Kevin Hugo
In article <E7i*PX...@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>, dame...@chiark.greenend.org.uk wrote:
> Marcus Greer <mmg...@ucdavis.edu> wrote:
> >I am very much impressed by people who ascend with less. I also
> >question their sanity.
>
> The reason for this is that a) we are all insane,
[Snip]
Me too. B^)
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Sascha
David/ Kirsty Damerell wrote on 25 Feb 1997 00:26:14 +0000 (GMT) :
> Marcus Greer <mmg...@ucdavis.edu> wrote:
> >For my "real" ascensions, I use nothing more powerful than backups of
> >saves.
>
> There is nothing more powerful than savefile backups.
There is: Wizard mode. ----> :) <----
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