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Is There A Penalty for Eating Leprechauns on St. Patrick's Day?

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alex webb

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Mar 17, 2003, 10:00:19 AM3/17/03
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Well, is there? (And on a Full Moon!)

Alex

-- Happy enough to get to Sokoban, let alone pass it

(And why is the Knight the best equipped to train and steal from shops?)

Mike Stevenson

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Mar 17, 2003, 11:59:53 AM3/17/03
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On Tue, 18 Mar 2003 02:00:19 +1100, alex webb <a...@mira.net> wrote:

>Well, is there? (And on a Full Moon!)

if you consider teleportitis a penalty, then yes. otherwise, not
really.

>(And why is the Knight the best equipped to train and steal from shops?)

i've often wondered about this irony myself in between sessions of
cleaning out pakka pakka's general store.

Rob Ellwood

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Mar 17, 2003, 3:27:51 PM3/17/03
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alex webb wrote:
>
> [Is There A Penalty for Eating Leprechauns on St. Patrick's Day?]

Don't just stand there, code it up.

-1 luck for eating a leprechaun on St. Patrick's Day, with
a message to hint that it was a bad idea.

Sometimes +1 luck for eating a leprechaun on other days. Give
it the same odds as for gaining an intrinsic. Plus a message to hint
that something good happened.


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Dylan O'Donnell

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Mar 17, 2003, 4:30:25 PM3/17/03
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Hmm. I think charisma would be more themely than luck; it'd be a
pain to make one effect intrinsiccy and one not, so I haven't (and
so the effects are more extreme to compensate; charisma isn't important
enough that this'd be a problem. Maxing out CHA from one leprechaun
hall: so what? (Especially since you're almost certain to acquire
teleportitis in the process.))


diff -ur nethack-3.4.1/include/extern.h nethack-3.4.1bis/include/extern.h
--- nethack-3.4.1/include/extern.h Sun Feb 23 14:43:20 2003
+++ nethack-3.4.1bis/include/extern.h Mon Mar 17 20:55:17 2003
@@ -740,6 +740,7 @@
E long FDECL(yyyymmdd, (time_t));
E int NDECL(phase_of_the_moon);
E boolean NDECL(friday_13th);
+E boolean NDECL(st_pats);
E int NDECL(night);
E int NDECL(midnight);

diff -ur nethack-3.4.1/src/eat.c nethack-3.4.1bis/src/eat.c
--- nethack-3.4.1/src/eat.c Sun Feb 23 14:43:26 2003
+++ nethack-3.4.1bis/src/eat.c Mon Mar 17 21:17:37 2003
@@ -909,6 +909,16 @@
}
if(is_giant(ptr)) gainstr((struct obj *)0, 0);

+ if (pm == PM_LEPRECHAUN) { /* can also grant intrinsic */
+ if (st_pats()) {
+ if (adjattrib(A_CHA, -rn1(3,2), TRUE))
+ You_feel("less eloquent today.");
+ } else {
+ if (adjattrib(A_CHA, 1, TRUE))
+ You_feel("the gift of the Blarney!");
+ }
+ }
+
/* Check the monster for all of the intrinsics. If this
* monster can give more than one, pick one to try to give
* from among all it can give.
diff -ur nethack-3.4.1/src/hacklib.c nethack-3.4.1bis/src/hacklib.c
--- nethack-3.4.1/src/hacklib.c Sun Feb 23 14:43:27 2003
+++ nethack-3.4.1bis/src/hacklib.c Mon Mar 17 21:23:50 2003
@@ -41,6 +41,7 @@
long yyyymmdd (time_t)
int phase_of_the_moon (void)
boolean friday_13th (void)
+ boolean st_pats (void)
int night (void)
int midnight (void)
=*/
@@ -597,6 +598,13 @@
return((boolean)(lt->tm_wday == 5 /* friday */ && lt->tm_mday == 13));
}

+boolean
+st_pats()
+{
+ register struct tm *lt = getlt();
+ return((boolean)(lt->tm_mon == 2 /* March */ && lt->tm_mday == 17));
+}
+
int
night()
{


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bd

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Mar 17, 2003, 5:43:59 PM3/17/03
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Hm. What if the player's hallucinating? :)
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SomeDumbWizard

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Mar 17, 2003, 5:47:02 PM3/17/03
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If you do gain luck by eating a leprochaun, you should get the message:

"You glimpse pink hearts, blue moons, yellow stars, and green clovers"

OR

"The leprochaun was magically delicious!"

"You see red hearts, blue moons,
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Dr. Richard E. Hawkins

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Mar 17, 2003, 6:39:19 PM3/17/03
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In article <3E762FE6...@shaw.ca>,

Rob Ellwood <rob.e...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>alex webb wrote:

>> [Is There A Penalty for Eating Leprechauns on St. Patrick's Day?]

> Don't just stand there, code it up.

> -1 luck for eating a leprechaun on St. Patrick's Day, with
>a message to hint that it was a bad idea.

This tastes liked corn beef! -more-
You don't think you should have done this without a Guinness to wash it
down.


> Sometimes +1 luck for eating a leprechaun on other days. Give
>it the same odds as for gaining an intrinsic. Plus a message to hint
>that something good happened.

You feel a rainbow?

hawk
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Dr. Richard E. Hawkins

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Mar 17, 2003, 6:45:59 PM3/17/03
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In article <86hea1d...@strackenz.spod-central.org>,

Dylan O'Donnell <psm...@spod-central.org> wrote:
>Rob Ellwood <rob.e...@shaw.ca> writes:


>> > [Is There A Penalty for Eating Leprechauns on St. Patrick's Day?]

>> Don't just stand there, code it up.

>> -1 luck for eating a leprechaun on St. Patrick's Day, with
>> a message to hint that it was a bad idea.

>Hmm. I think charisma would be more themely than luck;

Depends upon whgich source you use. I think the "pleasant little
fellow" is an americanism . . .

Darshan Shaligram

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Mar 17, 2003, 10:28:16 PM3/17/03
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"bd" <bdo...@bd-home-comp.no-ip.org> writes:

[about a million untrimmed quoted lines, including the whole
St.Patrick's Day leprechaun patch]


> Hm. What if the player's hallucinating? :)

What if you occasionally - say once in a lifetime - trimmed quoted text
down to what's actually relevant? Jee-sus.

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Darshan Shaligram

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Mar 17, 2003, 10:32:20 PM3/17/03
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"SomeDumbWizard" <dc...@concentric.net> writes:

[top-posting after he's been asked not to]
> If you do gain luck by eating a leprochaun [...]

You've been told not to top-post. Is it so hard to observe basic Usenet
courtesy?

*Plonk*

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SomeDumbWizard

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Mar 18, 2003, 12:46:16 AM3/18/03
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I still don't know what "top post" is. I would observe it if i knew what it
was.

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Daniel W. Johnson

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SomeDumbWizard <dc...@concentric.net> wrote:

> I still don't know what "top post" is. I would observe it if i knew what it
> was.

Usenet Hygeine - Dave Learns All About Top-Posting
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Dave: Oh! Now it makes sense to me. Okay!
No more top-posting for me!

Bob: It's annoying because it reverses the
normal order of conversation. In fact,
many people ignore top-posted articles.

Dave: What's so wrong with that?

Bob: That's posting your response *before*
the article you're quoting.

Dave: People keep bugging me about "top-posting."
What does that mean?

[The preceding educational opportunity was provided by Adam Brower.]

Moi

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Mar 18, 2003, 6:20:36 AM3/18/03
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psmit...@spod-central.org (Dylan O'Donnell) wrote in message news:<86hea1d...@strackenz.spod-central.org>...

> Rob Ellwood <rob.e...@shaw.ca> writes:
> > alex webb wrote:
> > >
> > > [Is There A Penalty for Eating Leprechauns on St. Patrick's Day?]
> >
> > Don't just stand there, code it up.
> >
> > (...)

>
> Hmm. I think charisma would be more themely than luck; it'd be a
> pain to make one effect intrinsiccy and one not, so I haven't (...)

>
>
> + if (pm == PM_LEPRECHAUN) { /* can also grant intrinsic */
> + if (st_pats()) {
> + if (adjattrib(A_CHA, -rn1(3,2), TRUE))
> + You_feel("less eloquent today.");
> + } else {
> + if (adjattrib(A_CHA, 1, TRUE))
> + You_feel("the gift of the Blarney!");
> + }
> + }
>
> (...)

I'm not a good coder, but wouldn't adding something like "&& rn2(10)==1" help?
NOTE 1: I mean the random function with a parameter. is that rn2?
NOTE 2: I set it up at 10%, but of course it's adjustable

Dylan O'Donnell

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moi...@hotmail.com (Moi) writes:
> psmit...@spod-central.org (Dylan O'Donnell) wrote in message
> news:<86hea1d...@strackenz.spod-central.org>...
> > Rob Ellwood <rob.e...@shaw.ca> writes:
> > > alex webb wrote:
> > > >
> > > > [Is There A Penalty for Eating Leprechauns on St. Patrick's Day?]
> > >
> > > Don't just stand there, code it up.
> >
> > Hmm. I think charisma would be more themely than luck; it'd be a
> > pain to make one effect intrinsiccy and one not, so I haven't (...)
>
> I'm not a good coder, but wouldn't adding something like "&&
> rn2(10)==1" help?
>
> NOTE 1: I mean the random function with a parameter. is that rn2?

The NH convention would be to make it "&& !rn2(10)" (ie, if a die
numbered 0-9 rolls a 0).

> NOTE 2: I set it up at 10%, but of course it's adjustable

I don't see any real need to make it a 10% chance. Rob's suggestion
was to be given a chance _either_ of being granted teleportitis _or_ a
luck boost; I think a guaranteed effect on charisma followed by
the usual chance of teleportitis would be fine.

(Compare the effect of a leprechaun hall with the effect on strength
of all the royal jelly from a beehive, and strength's much more
important to gameplay than charisma. Not to mention that jelly keeps
better.)

alex webb

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Mar 18, 2003, 11:21:33 AM3/18/03
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Dr. Richard E. Hawkins wrote:

>>>[Is There A Penalty for Eating Leprechauns on St. Patrick's Day?]
>
>> Don't just stand there, code it up.
>
>> -1 luck for eating a leprechaun on St. Patrick's Day, with
>>a message to hint that it was a bad idea.
>
> This tastes liked corn beef! -more-
> You don't think you should have done this without a Guinness to wash it
> down.
>
>> Sometimes +1 luck for eating a leprechaun on other days. Give
>>it the same odds as for gaining an intrinsic. Plus a message to hint
>>that something good happened.
>
> You feel a rainbow?

(I suck at the coding and wanted to run the idea past everyone seeing as it was
that time of the year. I hope not too many of you were nursing hangovers this
past week!)

All Leprechauns are peaceful, and permanently confused (drunk), on St Patrick's
Day. Conversing with a Leprechaun results in them replying with 'Céad mile
fáilte!', dropping one of up to d4+1 cursed potions of Booze named Poitin
(bwahahaha) and one of a few random Irish Sayings... (via Island Ireland):

http://www.islandireland.com/Pages/folk/sets/proverbs.html

> Dá fheabhas é an t-ól is é an tart a dheireadh.
> Good as drink is, it ends in thirst.
>
> Ní ólann na mná leann ach imíonn sé lena linn.
> Women do not drink liquor but it disappears when they are present.
>
> Is milis dá ól é ach is searbh dá íoc é.
> It is sweet to drink but bitter to pay for.
>
> Nuair a bhíos an braon istigh bíonn an chiall amuigh.
> When the drop is inside the sense is outside.
>
> An rud nach leigheasann im ná uisce beatha níl aon leigheas air.
> What butter or whiskey does not cure cannot be cured.
>
> Seachain teach an tabhairne nó is bairnigh is beatha duit.
> Beware of the public house or limpets will be your food.
>
> Is túisce deoch ná scéal.
> A drink precedes a story."

Mugging such a friendly soul penalises the player's luck. The luck of the Irish ..?

Eating a drunk Leprechaun results in Confused and/or Stunned for a good while
and another luck penalty.

Ahh well, there's a year to debate it now. Happy Hacking ...

-- Alex /|/() |/|/4R, |)()()|)Z!

Foo

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The only thing worse than top-posting is the no-top-posting-obsessed crowd.

Michael Clarke

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On Mon, 17 Mar 2003 23:39:19 +0000 (UTC), ha...@slytherin.ds.psu.edu
(Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) wrote:

>In article <3E762FE6...@shaw.ca>,
>Rob Ellwood <rob.e...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>alex webb wrote:
>
>> Sometimes +1 luck for eating a leprechaun on other days. Give
>>it the same odds as for gaining an intrinsic. Plus a message to hint
>>that something good happened.
>
>You feel a rainbow?

...and -1 luck on St.Georges day (the English being traditional foes
of the the Irish).

Mik

Dr. Richard E. Hawkins

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Mar 19, 2003, 9:44:48 AM3/19/03
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In article <3e787...@news1.prserv.net>, Foo <f...@bar.baz> cluelessly,
obnoxiously, and in defiance of all decency quite rudely top-posted:

>The only thing worse than top-posting is the no-top-posting-obsessed crowd.

Enough. Hitler! Godwin! Rotten Kumquats!

Boudewijn Waijers

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Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, cunningly disguised as
<ha...@slytherin.ds.psu.edu>, wrote:

> Enough. Hitler! Godwin! Rotten Kumquats!

Rotten Kumquats?

I do get the other references...

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- Xavier Guzman, Dutch stand-up comedian, on Dutch radio.

Dr. Richard E. Hawkins

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Mar 19, 2003, 3:53:00 PM3/19/03
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In article <b5a8a3$ksr$2...@reader1.tiscali.nl>,

Boudewijn Waijers <bwai...@tiscali.REMOVETHIS.nl> wrote:
>Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, cunningly disguised as
><ha...@slytherin.ds.psu.edu>, wrote:

>> Enough. Hitler! Godwin! Rotten Kumquats!

>Rotten Kumquats?

Disgusting little buggers . . .

:)

Doug Freyburger

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Mar 19, 2003, 7:12:36 PM3/19/03
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This is a top post. Compare it with my next post which follows the standards.

Notice how what I write is at the top. Notice how none of the replied message
is trimmed. Notice how it loses context. Think of a long discussion with
several points; a top post would lose all of the context of those points.

"SomeDumbWizard" <dc...@concentric.net> wrote in message news:<Ioyda.78129$JE5....@news2.central.cox.net>...

Doug Freyburger

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SomeDumbWizard wrote:
>
> I still don't know what "top post" is.

This is a bottom post. Compare it with my previous post to see the difference.

Notice how I trimmed out the irrelevant parts that I am not replying to. Notice
how what I right follows the points it responds to. Notice how the context of
your message is preserved in a way that is visually clear.

> I would observe it if i knew what it was.

Excellent. Ignorance is curable with training. See how your writing changed
to a different topic, so my response changed in reaction to it? The context is
preserved.

Ob NetHack - The source code does not calculate St Patrick's Day. It does
calculate phase of the moon and time of day. It would not be all that hard to
add to the code.

Dave Whiteside

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In article <7960d3ee.03031...@posting.google.com>, dfre...@yahoo.com (Doug Freyburger)
wrote:

<SNIP>


> Ob NetHack - The source code does not calculate St Patrick's Day. It does
> calculate phase of the moon and time of day. It would not be all that hard to
> add to the code.
>

well it's not a matter of calculating it as it is on the same day each year.

Dave
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Dayv!

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Foo <f...@bar.baz> wrote:
>
> The only thing worse than top-posting is the no-top-posting-obsessed crowd.

*plonk*

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it is time to worry."

Bwooce

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Mar 20, 2003, 1:53:17 PM3/20/03
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Dayv! <laughing...@yourpain.com> deserves a cookie for saying:
> *plonk*

Dayv!, did we _really_ need to know that you killfiled him?

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Bwooce <sol...@gehennom.net> wrote in news:b5d2mt$1e4$1@news-
int.gatech.edu:

> Dayv! <laughing...@yourpain.com> deserves a cookie for saying:
>> *plonk*
>
> Dayv!, did we _really_ need to know that you killfiled him?
>

"Pour encourager les autres" (Voltaire), I assume.


Roger

kcolrawyksthgin

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Mar 20, 2003, 5:56:10 PM3/20/03
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On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 21:58:24 GMT, Roger Broadbent
<rdb_spa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>"Pour encourager les autres" (Voltaire), I assume.

Also, public *plonk*ings have the (mythical, usually) effect of
perhaps causing the person so *plonk*ed to change behavior.

If 20-plus people silently killfile person X, person X may not realize
and may continue doing whatever cause him/her to be killfiles. If they
do so publically, the point is driven home that 'you are annoying
people to the point of being ignored.'
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Seraph

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Mar 20, 2003, 9:54:28 PM3/20/03
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Bwooce <sol...@gehennom.net> wrote in message news:<b5d2mt$1e4$1...@news-int.gatech.edu>...

> Dayv! <laughing...@yourpain.com> deserves a cookie for saying:
> > *plonk*
>
> Dayv!, did we _really_ need to know that you killfiled him?

What kind of silly question is that? Of course we did.

OT: Has anyone ever realized what a stupid idiom "of course" is?

Mike Stevenson

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On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 22:56:10 GMT, kcolrawyksthgin
<kcolraw...@attbi.com> wrote:

>If 20-plus people silently killfile person X, person X may not realize
>and may continue doing whatever cause him/her to be killfiles. If they
>do so publically, the point is driven home that 'you are annoying
>people to the point of being ignored.'

This of course assumes that the person in questions knows what plonk
means.

Dr. Richard E. Hawkins

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In article <g8il7vspod0tflfdj...@4ax.com>,

It tends to be self-evident :)

kcolrawyksthgin

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On Fri, 21 Mar 2003 02:11:45 -0600, Mike Stevenson
<mj...@students.uwf.edu> wrote:

>On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 22:56:10 GMT, kcolrawyksthgin
><kcolraw...@attbi.com> wrote:
>
>>If 20-plus people silently killfile person X, person X may not realize

>>and may continue doing whatever cause him/her to be killfiled. If they


>>do so publically, the point is driven home that 'you are annoying
>>people to the point of being ignored.'
>

>This of course assumes that the person in question knows what plonk
>means.

"'Plonk' and 'plonk'! What is 'plonk'?"

SCNR.

True; it falls under 'Google and ye shall find'.

Jon Saxton

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On Fri, 21 Mar 2003 08:11:45, Mike Stevenson <mj...@students.uwf.edu>
wrote:


> This of course assumes that the person in questions knows what plonk
> means.

I certainly do. It is cheap (and usually sweet) wine - the sort
favoured by derelict drunks on the basis of price alone. Nothing like
the high quality grog in the dwarvish mines.


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