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ManderRed

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Behold! The first ascension, and a demi-god in the making!

Items:

Amulets:
an uncursed amulet of reflection (being worn)
Weapons:
a blessed +5 katana named cockatrice's fire (wielded in other hand)
the blessed rustproof +5 Firebrand (wielded in hand)
the blessed +5 Tsurgi of Muramasa
Armor:
a blessed +5 pair of iron shoes (being worn)
a blessed +5 red dragon scale mail (being worn)
a blessed +3 cloak of invisibility
an uncursed +0 dwarvish iron helm
a blessed rustproof +5 pair of gauntlets of power (being worn)
a blessed fireproof +0 cloak of magic protection (being worn)
Spellbooks:
the uncursed Book of the Dead
Rings:
an uncursed +1 ring of gain constitution (on left hand)
an uncursed ring of protection from shape changers
an uncursed +1 ring of gain strength (on right hand)
Wands:
a wand of death (1:0)
a wand of death (1:7)
Some of the contents in the blessed bag of holding:
5 uncursed tins of frost giant meat
a magic harp (0:1)
a tinning kit (0:31)
an uncursed +0 set of red dragon scales
an uncursed +0 set of black dragon scales
an uncursed +0 set of silver dragon scales
a wand if death (1:8)
a +0 morning star
a wand of polymorph (0:1)

Final Attributes:
You were piously aligned
You were fire restistant
You were cold resistant
You were sleep resistant
You were disintigration-resistant
You were shock resistant
You were poison resistant
You were magic-protected
You saw invisible
You were invisible to others
You were stealthy
You had reflection
You were lucky
You had extra luck
Good luck did not time out for you
you survived

Vanquished creatures:
Asmodeus
Orcus
Jubilex
The Wizard of Yendor (8 times)
Pestilencce (2 times)
a high priest
Medusa
Vlad the Impaler
Ashikaga Takauji
3 storm giants
a balrog
a gray dragon
a silver dragon
7 baluchitheria
a master mind flayer
11 minotaurs
a vampire lord
etc... 1806 creatures vanquished...

Voluntary challenges:
You genocided 25 types of monsters
You never polymorphed an object
you used 14 wishes.

Gems & special items collected:
Fire Brand (worth 1500 zorkmids)
The Tsurgi of Muramsa (woth 50000 zorkmids)
9 emeralds (worth 22500 zorkmids)
8 rubies (worth 28000 zorkmids)
4 diamonds (worth 16000 zorkmids)
3 aquamarine stones (worth 4500 zorkmids)
1 citrine stone (worth 1500 zorkmids)
1 amber stone (worth 1000 zorkmids)
1 jet stone (worth 850 zorkmids)
1 garnet stone (worth 700 zorkmids)
1 obsidian stone (worth 200 zorkmids)
1 agate stone (worth 200 zorkmids)
1 amulet of reflection (worth 150 zorkmids)
and $15440 after 414544 moves
You were level 16 with a maximum of 236 hit points when you ascended.

Escaped with:
"Invisible" Pyro- cockatrice
Cockington- cockatrice
Rhodes Rooster- cockatrice
Charmander- pyrolisk
Guardian angel of Amaratasu Omikami

1 2972459 John-Sam-Hum-Mal-Law ascended to demigood-hood 205 [241]

Apparently, Ameratasu Omikami's people surrounded the altair near Pestilence.
Lucky for me, that was the first place I went to. Well, after digging through
the Earth Plane, kicking and teleporting around the Air Plane, being crowded
while solidifying lava in the Fire Plane, and being confused with the air buble
in the Water Plane, I finaly get promoted with John the Samurai as my FIRST
ascension!
I luckily got a guardian angel as you can see. The archon mysteriously stopped
following me in the water Plane. For some odd reason, a renegade priestess and
an angel of Ameratasu made an atempt on my life, but eliminating them didn't do
anything to my loyalty. Anyway, this is my ascension! Escaped with my ideal
weapons like Firebrand and the Tsurgi of Muramasa, a shiny red dragon scale
mail, an amulet of reflection, gauntlets of power, and 3 out of 4 of the pets I
took with me from Grehenom and to ascension. I am sorry of your death, Big Red
the cockatrice. I hope your spirit guides the way to the other questors
destined to see Moloch's Sanctum. Just don't hug them or anything. Well, I
end this little tihng with saying, don't cross paths with a man with multiple
charged wands of death, Rodney! Vlad is a windbag. Ashikauji is a wind bag!
Pestilence isn't powerful enough! Thanks Sascha Wottsman, Raisse the
Thaumaturge, and any other person who gave me help. Finnaly, it was nice for
Amaratasu to have her high priest near the altair, making me feel welcome to
ascension!

S
ayonara John the Demigood...

Raisse the Thaumaturge

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Nov 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/12/00
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ManderRed <mand...@aol.com> wrote:
> Behold! The first ascension, and a demi-god in the making!

Congratulations! I'd say already made :-)

> I luckily got a guardian angel as you can see. The archon
> mysteriously stopped following me in the water Plane. For some odd
> reason, a renegade priestess and an angel of Ameratasu made an
> atempt on my life, but eliminating them didn't do anything to my
> loyalty.

No, those are just monsters. Renegade priests are just that:
renegade, and angels on the Astral Plane think any adventurer is an
enemy so you can safely kill them in self-defense.

> Vlad is a windbag.

Yes.

> Ashikauji is a wind bag!

No. Well, he may be, but he happens to have a kickass weapon.

> Pestilence isn't powerful enough!

I beg to differ. If Pestilence were any more powerful I'd never
ascend any more.

Raisse, poisoned by Pestilence (with the Amulet)
(I still think that's a funny thing to poison people with)

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ManderRed

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>> I luckily got a guardian angel as you can see. The archon
>> mysteriously stopped following me in the water Plane. For some odd
>> reason, a renegade priestess and an angel of Ameratasu made an
>> atempt on my life, but eliminating them didn't do anything to my
>> loyalty.
>
>No, those are just monsters. Renegade priests are just that:
>renegade, and angels on the Astral Plane think any adventurer is an
>enemy so you can safely kill them in self-defense.

I managed to see a coouple of peaceful angels of Amaratasu. Why are there both
peaceful and hostile angels at the astral plane?

>> Ashikauji is a wind bag!
>
>No. Well, he may be

To be honest, I killed the guy with a wand of death, but I KNOW this guy
would've lost to me anyway, even with the Tsurgi. If Vlad suffered at my hand,
and I killed the wizard a couple of times without any wands of death, and if
Pestilence proved nothing more than a mere obstacle in my way, (although making
me sick almost made my day) Ashikauji wouuld've been the same.

>he happens to have a kickass weapon.

That I agreee. Although I think a Firebrand + either a katana or a silver saber
can kick the crap out of anything a thousandfull, unless you're dealing with a
beefy fire elemental. I managed to increase my two-hand skill to basic before
getting my reward with my 4 pets.

Just out of cuuriosity:
What do you need to have or do to be worthy of a guardian angel in the Astral
Plane?

Dylan O'Donnell

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mand...@aol.com (ManderRed) writes:
> Just out of cuuriosity:
> What do you need to have or do to be worthy of a guardian angel in
> the Astral Plane?

From an Astral Plane spoiler I have in the works:

If you have the conflict intrinsic, one to four hostile Angels will
be created around you; otherwise, if your alignment is at least
"fervent" (9 or higher), a tame guardian Angel will be created (but
will vanish and send in the hostile Angels if you later use conflict
in its vicinity).

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Chi.

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Nov 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/12/00
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ManderRed worte on his ascension:

>>> Ashikauji is a wind bag!

Raisse responded:


>>No. Well, he may be
>
> To be honest, I killed the guy with a wand of death, but I KNOW this guy
> would've lost to me anyway, even with the Tsurgi. If Vlad suffered at my
hand,
> and I killed the wizard a couple of times without any wands of death, and
if
> Pestilence proved nothing more than a mere obstacle in my way, (although
making
> me sick almost made my day) Ashikauji wouuld've been the same.

Trying to fight Ashikaga fairly in hand to hand without using sleep accounts
foir many a YAAD.
For example... the first time I met him (I was wearing and "oLS fortunately)
the battle went something like:

"Ashikaga Takauji wields a tsurugi named The Tsurugi of Muramasa!--More--"
"You hit! You hit!"
(ashikaga teleports away for two turns, then teleports back)
"Ashikaga Takauji swings his tsurugi named The Tsurugi of Muramasa.--More--"
"Ashikaga Takauji hits!"
"The razor-sharp blade cuts you in half!--More--"
"You die... But wait... Your medallion begins to glow!--More--"
(then I made myself disregard the code of bushido and cracked out the
/oSleep)

And then there was a recent post of a poor unfortunate who had the
unthinkable occur... he/she was wearing an "oLS, but was bisected twice in a
row... not having a chance to put on his/her other "oLS...

I've only once dared to take him on hand-to-hand and not been bisected...

> Just out of cuuriosity:
> What do you need to have or do to be worthy of a guardian angel in the
Astral
> Plane?

Not be using conflict when you enter the Astral plane, IIRC.

Regards,

Chris.

ManderRed

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Nov 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/12/00
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> If you have the conflict intrinsic, one to four hostile Angels will
> be created around you; otherwise, if your alignment is at least
> "fervent" (9 or higher), a tame guardian Angel will be created (but
> will vanish and send in the hostile Angels if you later use conflict
> in its vicinity).

Thanks for answering one of the questions. I think I'll avoid wearing a ring of
conflict when one other of my characters enters the Astral Plane. Unless your
disappointing your own god and killing the peaceful creatures left and right,
gaining a Guardian Angel on the Astral plane is E-A-S-Y.

Dylan O'Donnell

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mand...@aol.com (ManderRed) writes:
[Attribution?!]

> > If you have the conflict intrinsic, one to four hostile Angels will
> > be created around you; otherwise, if your alignment is at least
> > "fervent" (9 or higher), a tame guardian Angel will be created (but
> > will vanish and send in the hostile Angels if you later use conflict
> > in its vicinity).
>
> Thanks for answering one of the questions.

Oops, missed the other one:

> I managed to see a coouple of peaceful angels of Amaratasu. Why are
> there both peaceful and hostile angels at the astral plane?

Only one of the Angels of your alignment attending each high temple is
renegade (though it doesn't get called that); the other will remain
peaceful. Similarly for the priests. (All Angels and priests of
_other_ gods will be hostile, of course.)

ManderRed

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Nov 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/12/00
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>Regards,

>Chris.

I think I would've been able to kill him anyway. How many hit points does he
have again? Oh well, it's a bit late for that. I just have that strong feeling
Ashikauji would've died if I fought him fairly as well. Give me about 5-8 turns
and he would've been toast. Darn it, I made a pun. (I got my first of Firebrand
in the begining of the quest)
Anyway, thanks for the info. One more question, would there have been any added
message if I confronted him directly instead of zapping him from far away?


Chi.

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ManderRed sneered at Ashikaga Takauji:

> I think I would've been able to kill him anyway. How many hit points does
he
> have again? Oh well, it's a bit late for that. I just have that strong
feeling
> Ashikauji would've died if I fought him fairly as well. Give me about 5-8
turns

He also teleports away. So unless you were swinging Vorpy and got a lucky
hit (which I doubt you would have been, as S are Lawful) or did a phenomenal
amount of damage in the turn before he teleports, I don't think you would
have killed him in 5-8 turns. 50-80 maybe... (roughly the time it would
take to walk round the circular non-teleporting quest level to the staircase
_then_ your 5-8 turns of thwacking :-)

> and he would've been toast. Darn it, I made a pun. (I got my first of
Firebrand
> in the begining of the quest)

Cool!

> Anyway, thanks for the info. One more question, would there have been any
added
> message if I confronted him directly instead of zapping him from far away?

You get a bit of blurb as he taunts you... same with when you meet any Quest
nemesis. Did you fry him before you'd even walked up to him (or he walked
up to you) once?? Did you zot him while he was meditating? How mean and
un-Bushido of you :-)

(I'm going to drift off-thread here for a second)
Bah... I just YASD'd another S... by not watching my HP while thwacking
through Ludicrous... those darn Magic Missiles! I got crowned before I'd
even been granted Snickersnee which I though was odd... I was only XP 10,
and this is twice I've been crowned early in the past month... having only
ever been crowned once before...
Anyway... I digress.

I forgot to say, congratulations on the Ascension! :-)

Regards,

Chris.

StarChaser_Tyger

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Nov 12, 2000, 10:27:36 PM11/12/00
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Quoth mand...@aol.com (ManderRed) :


>I managed to see a coouple of peaceful angels of Amaratasu. Why are there both
>peaceful and hostile angels at the astral plane?

Jealous. They want the Amulet and the ascension for themselves.

>Just out of cuuriosity:
>What do you need to have or do to be worthy of a guardian angel in the Astral
>Plane?

Not be causing conflict, and I think you have to be positively
aligned.
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Jim Monk

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ManderRed wrote:

> Behold! The first ascension, and a demi-god in the making!
>

Congratulations !

> Items:


> Armor:
> a blessed +5 pair of iron shoes (being worn)
> a blessed +5 red dragon scale mail (being worn)

> a blessed rustproof +5 pair of gauntlets of power (being worn)
> a blessed fireproof +0 cloak of magic protection (being worn)

What was your AC from this, it doesn't look too hot ?

Well done,

Jim


Alessandro Putzu

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May 2, 2013, 6:45:45 AM5/2/13
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> Ashikauji is a wind bag!
>
>

The man woke up before I could walk to him, resisted a wielded potion of sleep and teleported away immediately, i could SWORE i picked up a /oSleep on my way to him but I didn't, so he showed up again when I was on my way to picking it up where it was laying and bisected me immediately... never a chance to react... damn me for not at least drinking a potion of speed BEFORE and sayonara my best samurai to-date.. was -20 with 3/5 pieces of armor still at +0 :(

Janis Papanagnou

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May 2, 2013, 8:25:40 AM5/2/13
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Am 02.05.2013 12:45, schrieb Alessandro Putzu:
>> Ashikauji is a wind bag!

He isn't, given his weapon.

>
> The man woke up before I could walk to him, [...] and bisected me
> immediately... never a chance to react... damn me for not at least
> drinking a potion of speed BEFORE and sayonara my best samurai
> to-date.. was -20 with 3/5 pieces of armor still at +0 :(

Those stats exactly remind me the gear of my last ascended game... ;-)
AC:-16
A - a blessed +0 gray dragon scale mail (being worn)
B - an uncursed very burnt +0 pair of speed boots (being worn)
G - an uncursed +1 pair of leather gloves (being worn)
H - an uncursed +3 helm of brilliance (being worn)
R - a blessed +0 robe (being worn)

But that character hadn't the necessity to face an insta-death foe.

Janis

Alessandro Putzu

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May 2, 2013, 11:12:55 AM5/2/13
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Il giorno giovedì 2 maggio 2013 14:25:40 UTC+2, Janis ha scritto:
> Am 02.05.2013 12:45, schrieb Alessandro Putzu:
>
> >> Ashikauji is a wind bag!
>
>
>
> He isn't, given his weapon.
>

I didn't write that, the OP did!

Hendrik Weimer

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May 2, 2013, 1:35:32 PM5/2/13
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Alessandro Putzu <fean...@gmail.com> writes:

> The man woke up before I could walk to him, resisted a wielded potion
> of sleep and teleported away immediately, i could SWORE i picked up a
> /oSleep on my way to him but I didn't, so he showed up again when I
> was on my way to picking it up where it was laying and bisected me
> immediately...

The canonical way to deal with him is to use a /oDeath, which cannot be
resisted, and wear an "oLS in case the ray misses (20% chance). If you
get bisected, levelport out *immediately* until you find another amulet.

Hendrik

Janis Papanagnou

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May 2, 2013, 2:20:48 PM5/2/13
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Sure. You can see that if you inspect the indentation levels.

I also didn't say that you said that.

Mind, though, that you missed to quote from whom you quoted
that statement. And if you don't say from whom you quoted it,
how could I guess that.

So I suggest to fix your quoting habits!

(In case you missed the point: This is _Usenet_, and I just
don't see who made the original posting.)

Janis

Alessandro Putzu

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May 9, 2013, 5:08:00 AM5/9/13
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I'm reading this from google groups, so I don't know about how usenet works. Sorry if I seemed brusque!

on topic again, second-to-last time I fought the Tsurugi of Muramasa-wielding shogun ...I didn't because I zapped him with a wand of death, but died soon after to 3 stalkers and a ninja because I had abysmal AC and lacked see invisible... the irony! Last time, however, I fought him semi-honorably (melee with /oSleep), he got to hit me a couple of times, but I eventually killed him. The RNG was feeling merciful.

Janis Papanagnou

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May 9, 2013, 6:05:09 AM5/9/13
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On 09.05.2013 11:08, Alessandro Putzu wrote:
>
> I'm reading this from google groups, so I don't know about how usenet
> works. [...]

You can find articles about Usenet on the Web[*]. In a nutshell, for
the aspect of posting, consider these points (off the top of my head):
* The google web service camouflage/hide the fact that this is Usenet.
* Usenet is not designed to assume there's an archive of messages or
an available posting context available; postings expire on news
servers and may not be visible to readers. The consequence is that
individual postings should be self contained.
* Original quoted text should be attributed and distinguishable.
* It should become clear from each post who said the quoted passages.
* Quoted text should be trimmed to the portion you are replying to.
* You should not top-post but position your replies below the quoted
text. If there's several sections you are replying to it's usually
helpful to place the answers under the respective quoted statements.
* Some basic formal conventions (like restricting the line length to
something like 70 lines, so that a couple levels of indented quoted
lines fit within 80 character columns) fade in the shade of the
broken Usenet interface that google fosters (google seems to put a
spurious blank line after every other quoted line).
For those reasons many regular Usenet users prefer Real Newsreaders
instead of a web interface. (I don't know whether such software is
available for the smartphone that you seem to use.)

There's some more information about Usenet posting "netiquette" (and
google groups) on the web, e.g. see http://cfaj.freeshell.org/google/

Janis

[*] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet

Capt. Cave Man

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May 9, 2013, 7:38:31 AM5/9/13
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Nice post, dude.

I guess I have to say "Unusual for Usenet, these days."

jim in austin

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May 9, 2013, 9:12:37 AM5/9/13
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On Thursday, May 9, 2013 5:05:09 AM UTC-5, Janis wrote:
> ...(google seems to put a spurious blank line after every
> other quoted line)...

I think this might be an artifact of the linefeed vs
linefeed+carriage_return difference between *nix and
non-*nix line terminating conventions. I can recall having
to batch edit text imported from DOS boxes in a similar
fashion before I discovered the handy little dostounix and
unixtodos formatters many moons ago...

Janis Papanagnou

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May 9, 2013, 10:37:57 AM5/9/13
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On 09.05.2013 15:12, jim in austin wrote:
> On Thursday, May 9, 2013 5:05:09 AM UTC-5, Janis wrote:
>> ...(google seems to put a spurious blank line after every
>> other quoted line)...
>
> I think this might be an artifact of the linefeed vs
> linefeed+carriage_return difference between *nix and
> non-*nix line terminating conventions. [...]

I thought in this direction as well. What I find strange, though,
is that many Internet protocols are defined based on CRLF endings.
Sensible clients typically can handle those variants for a unique
presentation. It's beyond me why the software of a company that
has done really great products fails constantly and so miserably
with their Usenet news front-ends.[*]

Janis

[*] They may not consider it worthwhile; to get from the google
start page to the "groups" entry I have to click "more" and "yet
more" and then search in a huge list for the groups entry. Given
where it's placed they certainly seem to have other priorities.

Jorgen Grahn

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May 9, 2013, 10:51:31 AM5/9/13
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On Thu, 2013-05-09, jim in austin wrote:
> On Thursday, May 9, 2013 5:05:09 AM UTC-5, Janis wrote:
>> ...(google seems to put a spurious blank line after every
>> other quoted line)...
>
> I think this might be an artifact of the linefeed vs
> linefeed+carriage_return difference between *nix and
> non-*nix line terminating conventions.

Whatever the technical reason is, it's very disruptive and has been
going on for a long time now. I find the non-technical reasons within
Google more interesting to puzzle over ...

(Speaking of Austin, in three hours I'll see Roky Erickson
play live.)

/Jorgen

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jim in austin

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May 9, 2013, 12:02:02 PM5/9/13
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On Thursday, May 9, 2013 9:51:31 AM UTC-5, Jorgen Grahn wrote:

> (Speaking of Austin, in three hours I'll see Roky Erickson
> play live.)

Yeah, he's still hanging in there. I saw the 13th Floor Elevators
at the Vulcan Gas Company my first year at UT: http://goo.gl/3Xs52

Jorgen Grahn

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May 10, 2013, 4:49:40 AM5/10/13
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On Thu, 2013-05-09, jim in austin wrote:
Roky /is/ still hanging in. His voice (or the mixing) was not that
good yesterday, but you can't lose with a good band and those songs.
Quite a few Elevators songs, but his 70s stuff worked better, I think.

ObNethack: he did play "(I've got) Levitation" ...

Rast

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Jun 16, 2013, 1:33:49 PM6/16/13
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Alessandro Putzu wrote...
> bisected me immediately... never a chance to react... damn me for not at least drinking a potion of speed BEFORE and sayonara my best samurai to-date.. was -20 with 3/5 pieces of armor still at +0 :(

There is a guaranteed amulet of life saving in Vlad's tower, and no
particular reason to do the Samurai quest before then.




Rast

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Jun 16, 2013, 1:41:19 PM6/16/13
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Hendrik Weimer wrote...
> The canonical way to deal with him is to use a /oDeath, which cannot be
> resisted, and wear an "oLS in case the ray misses (20% chance). If you
> get bisected, levelport out *immediately* until you find another amulet.

Also boulder forts


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