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Nethack and the Bats trope

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hcobb

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May 8, 2008, 8:44:52 AM5/8/08
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Spot on.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GoddamnedBats
And then there are enemies that are just incredibly pernicious. They
swarm you, they add nothing to the game, they do nothing but cause
delay. They're the Goddamned Bats, man.

-HJC
Geno B? Never! Where's the fun in the game then?

GaryOlson

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May 8, 2008, 4:00:12 PM5/8/08
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According to his definition, I would have to include "Team a" in vanilla NH.

hcobb

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May 9, 2008, 2:37:04 AM5/9/08
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On May 8, 1:00 pm, GaryOlson <slu...@garyolson.org> wrote:
> According to his definition, I would have to include "Team a" in vanilla NH.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DemonicSpiders
The soldier ant in Nethack has no special/magical abilities -- and yet
is the most common cause of deaths in the game, thanks to their speed
and numbers. It's not the only monster with a reputation, but fights
for the spot of worst creature with floating eyes, leprechauns,
nymphs, gremlins, eels, krakens, mind flayers, master mind flayers,
green slimes, cockatrices, chickatrices, black dragons, liches, arch-
liches, rust monsters, disenchanters, iron golems, air elementals, the
Gnomes With The Wand Of Death, and minotaurs to an extent. By this
point, the astute reader has picked up that Nethack isn't a "game" as
much as an extremely prolonged form of masochism. Ask any serious
player.

-HJC

Martin Read

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May 9, 2008, 12:59:47 PM5/9/08
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hcobb <henry...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On May 8, 1:00 pm, GaryOlson <slu...@garyolson.org> wrote:
>> According to his definition, I would have to include "Team a" in vanilla NH.
>
>http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DemonicSpiders
>The soldier ant in Nethack has no special/magical abilities

A false statement, of course; it has a venomous sting.
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May 9, 2008, 4:54:40 PM5/9/08
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Perhaps a little bit obscure but the Giant Bats in the 1970s board
game Magic Realm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_Realm) are
arguably the most dangerous creatures in the game. You can't run from
them, you can't dodge them, you can't hit them... If you're an
unarmored character they kill you quickly, otherwise, they merely
wound you to death...

For those who want to try it out, a free Java version of Magic Realm,
called RealmSpeak, is available to download:

http://magicrealm.dewkid.com/rspeak/realmspeak.htm

Mark.

Don't forget the rule book:

http://www.thewinternet.com/magicrealm/

Here's a condensed version of the rules:

http://globetrotter-games.com/game/aid/eMRealm3.pdf

nico

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May 9, 2008, 5:20:14 PM5/9/08
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On May 9, 2:37 am, hcobb <henry.c...@gmail.com> wrote:

> http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DemonicSpiders
> The soldier ant in Nethack has no special/magical abilities -- and yet
> is the most common cause of deaths in the game, thanks to their speed
> and numbers. It's not the only monster with a reputation, but fights
> for the spot of worst creature with floating eyes, leprechauns,
> nymphs, gremlins, eels, krakens, mind flayers, master mind flayers,
> green slimes, cockatrices, chickatrices, black dragons, liches, arch-
> liches, rust monsters, disenchanters, iron golems, air elementals, the
> Gnomes With The Wand Of Death, and minotaurs to an extent. By this
> point, the astute reader has picked up that Nethack isn't a "game" as
> much as an extremely prolonged form of masochism. Ask any serious
> player.
>
> -HJC

What's wrong with iron golems?

Richard Bos

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May 10, 2008, 10:48:24 AM5/10/08
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Martin Read <mpr...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

> hcobb <henry...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On May 8, 1:00 pm, GaryOlson <slu...@garyolson.org> wrote:
> >> According to his definition, I would have to include "Team a" in vanilla NH.
> >
> >http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DemonicSpiders
> >The soldier ant in Nethack has no special/magical abilities
>
> A false statement, of course; it has a venomous sting.

Venom isn't magical.

Richard

Geoffrey Eadon

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May 10, 2008, 11:47:48 AM5/10/08
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ral...@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) wrote in
news:4825b52d...@news.xs4all.nl:

I don't think that matters. I would call anything that can kill you in one
turn regardless of how many HP you have "special".

Martin Read

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May 10, 2008, 1:12:45 PM5/10/08
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It's certainly special, though, since it can deplete your stats or
instakill you.

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