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b...@vax1.mankato.msus.edu

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Jul 31, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/31/95
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Is there a way to get Farmer Maggot to leave me alone? He just keeps following
me, asking me if I killed his dog, Fang, and wanting me to buy mushrooms.
If he won't leave, will I have to just kill him?

Wyatt Edwards
B...@vax1.mankato.msus.edu


Steve Sitkiewitz

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Jul 31, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/31/95
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In article <1995Jul3...@vax1.mankato.msus.edu>,
b...@vax1.mankato.msus.edu wrote:

> Is there a way to get Farmer Maggot to leave me alone? He just keeps following
> me, asking me if I killed his dog, Fang, and wanting me to buy mushrooms.
> If he won't leave, will I have to just kill him?

Yes! And you get a good prize or two for your efforts.
>
> Wyatt Edwards
> B...@vax1.mankato.msus.edu

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Steve Sitkiewitz
Dept. Chem. Eng.
UT Austin

P.R.R.Scheele

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Aug 1, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/1/95
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In article <1995Jul3...@vax1.mankato.msus.edu>,
<b...@vax1.mankato.msus.edu> wrote:
>Is there a way to get Farmer Maggot to leave me alone? He just keeps following
>me, asking me if I killed his dog, Fang, and wanting me to buy mushrooms.
> If he won't leave, will I have to just kill him?
>
>Wyatt Edwards
>B...@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
>


You're supposed to kill him i'm afraid. Not really in style with Tolkien
though. You might want to leave him alone for a while first though. He's
no threat to your character, but certainly one to your patience. That guy
has more hps then an your average dragon it seems.

Patrick


Randy Hutson

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Aug 2, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/2/95
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In article <3vm5iu$q...@nic.wi.leidenuniv.nl>,

P.R.R.Scheele <psch...@artemis.wi.leidenuniv.nl> wrote:
>In article <1995Jul3...@vax1.mankato.msus.edu>,
> <b...@vax1.mankato.msus.edu> wrote:
>>Is there a way to get Farmer Maggot to leave me alone? He just keeps following
>>me, asking me if I killed his dog, Fang, and wanting me to buy mushrooms.
>> If he won't leave, will I have to just kill him?

>>Wyatt Edwards


>You're supposed to kill him i'm afraid. Not really in style with Tolkien
>though. You might want to leave him alone for a while first though. He's
>no threat to your character, but certainly one to your patience. That guy
>has more hps then an your average dragon it seems.

>Patrick

Farmer Maggot confused me the first time I played Angband. I presumed
that killing him would be "bad". (At the time, I thought that Angband
was a "Tolkien game".) Even though he was very annoying, I ignored him
as best I could for a while. After his 10th or so appearance, I'd had
enough so I decided to risk the repercussions and kill him. I suspect
that whoever put Farmer Maggot in the game expected a sequence of events
similar to this.

For fun, I once completed a game without killing Farmer Maggot, Grip,
or Fang. I did this because I thought it would be amusing for Morgoth
to summon Farmer Maggot and his dogs to aid him. The dogs showed up,
but Farmer Maggot never did. (I didn't know at the time that the game
won't create town level objects and monsters in the dungeon.)

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Randy Hutson - ra...@picard.tamu.edu

M. Kernaghan

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Aug 2, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/2/95
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> (I didn't know at the time that the game won't create town level
> objects and monsters in the dungeon.)

This is too bad. I'd been hoping to run into a pathetic drunk or
blithering idiot that wandered into the mines.

By the way, how about stopping the slaughter of poor blubbering icky
things. Just because they are not `cute' we just kill them in their
millions. One day they will be extinct and we will miss them.

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Ingolf Mertens

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Aug 3, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/3/95
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In article <sitkis-31...@chegd03.che.utexas.edu>, sit...@mail.utexas.edu (Steve Sitkiewitz) writes:
|> In article <1995Jul3...@vax1.mankato.msus.edu>,
|> b...@vax1.mankato.msus.edu wrote:
|>
|> > Is there a way to get Farmer Maggot to leave me alone? He just keeps following
|> > me, asking me if I killed his dog, Fang, and wanting me to buy mushrooms.
|> > If he won't leave, will I have to just kill him?
|>
|> Yes! And you get a good prize or two for your efforts.

Yes, most of the time you get a Dagger (1d4) (+0,+1) ...

Ingolf

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Mike McCarty

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Aug 4, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/4/95
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In article <3vnp1n$2...@news.tamu.edu>,
Randy Hutson <ra...@picard.tamu.edu> wrote:
)Farmer Maggot confused me the first time I played Angband. I presumed
)that killing him would be "bad". (At the time, I thought that Angband
)was a "Tolkien game".) Even though he was very annoying, I ignored him
)as best I could for a while. After his 10th or so appearance, I'd had
)enough so I decided to risk the repercussions and kill him. I suspect
)that whoever put Farmer Maggot in the game expected a sequence of events
)similar to this.

Actually, it is a Tolkien game. But it has gradually crept away.

)For fun, I once completed a game without killing Farmer Maggot, Grip,
)or Fang. I did this because I thought it would be amusing for Morgoth
)to summon Farmer Maggot and his dogs to aid him. The dogs showed up,
)but Farmer Maggot never did. (I didn't know at the time that the game
)won't create town level objects and monsters in the dungeon.)
)

I wish I had a win.

Mike
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James Cleary

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Aug 4, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/4/95
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Ingolf Mertens (mer...@bremenfzi.de) wrote:

I got a War Hammer (3d3) (+2,+2). Better than the dagger I had, so
I probably shouldn't complain. . .
Jim
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Torbj|rn Lindgren

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Aug 5, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/5/95
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In article <3vrsh0$3...@sun001.spd.dsccc.com>,

Mike McCarty <jmcc...@spd.dsccc.com> wrote:
>In article <3vnp1n$2...@news.tamu.edu>,
>Randy Hutson <ra...@picard.tamu.edu> wrote:
>)Farmer Maggot confused me the first time I played Angband. I presumed
>)that killing him would be "bad". (At the time, I thought that Angband
>)was a "Tolkien game".) Even though he was very annoying, I ignored him
>
>Actually, it is a Tolkien game. But it has gradually crept away.

Actually, it's has some things from Tolkien, but nothing more! There
are Tolkien based games, but neither Angband nor Moria is one of them
(except in a *very* loose sense).

And it hasn't crept away, if anything it's slightly (very slightly)
*more* Tolkienesq now than it was in the beginning.

Moria is a bit more Tolkienesq, but now I'm talking about Angband. But
note that Moria isn't really a Tolkien based game either.

Stephen S. Lee

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Aug 6, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/6/95
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In article <3vrsh0$3...@sun001.spd.dsccc.com>,
Mike McCarty <jmcc...@spd.dsccc.com> wrote:
>Actually, it is a Tolkien game. But it has gradually crept away.

And how has it crept away? It has never been especially Tolkienish in
the beginning. Do you know anything about Tolkien at all?

I think you just have some illogical childish desire to criticize the
newer versions of Angband.
--
Stephen S. Lee (le...@fas.harvard.edu)

If love is chemistry, and sex is physics, then what is biology?

Mike McCarty

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Aug 7, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/7/95
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In article <4029ec$l...@decaxp.harvard.edu>,
Stephen S. Lee <le...@husc7.harvard.edu> wrote:
)In article <3vrsh0$3...@sun001.spd.dsccc.com>,
)Mike McCarty <jmcc...@spd.dsccc.com> wrote:
)>Actually, it is a Tolkien game. But it has gradually crept away.
)
)And how has it crept away? It has never been especially Tolkienish in
)the beginning. Do you know anything about Tolkien at all?
)
)I think you just have some illogical childish desire to criticize the
)newer versions of Angband.
)--
)Stephen S. Lee (le...@fas.harvard.edu)

I think we must have a different definition of the word Tolkien based.
The questions you ask, and the way in which you pose them seem very
childish and demeaning to me.

The origin of Angband goes back to Moria. Moria was quite a bit more
Tolkienish than Angband. And as time goes by, Angand continues to creep
away. That has nothing to do with more recent versions by Ben, since he
hasn't really changed the mix of Tolkien vs. non-Tolkien creatures.

But the name of the game itself is derived from Tolkien. How can you say
it has never been Tolkienish?

I have read the Lord of the Rings trilogy, the Hobbit, the Silmarillion,
Lost Tales volumes I, II, and III, the Tolkien Reader, the Adventures of
Tom Bombadil, one about the origin of London (Caudimordax?), Leaf by
Niggle, and a couple of his translations from Anglo Saxon (Sir Gawain
and the Green Night, parts of Grendl). I also read a little Anglo Saxon
myself.

So I think I qualify as knowing "anything about Tolkien at all."

In fact, looking back on your post, I find it downright obnoxious.

Chuck Swiger

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Aug 10, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/10/95
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jmcc...@spd.dsccc.com (Mike McCarty) wrote:
> The origin of Angband goes back to Moria.

Angband is derived from UMoria 5.2, which in turn was derived from older
versions of Moria. Check the version history document for more details and
specific game version <--> date mappings.

> Moria was quite a bit more Tolkienish than Angband.

Moria (a) does not have unique artifacts from Tolkien, and (b) does not
have unique monsters from Tolkien.

In what way is "Moria was quite a bit more Tolkienish than Angband"?

> And as time goes by, Angand continues to creep away.

Prove it! Compare Angband 2.4, 2.5, 2.6, and 2.7 and demonstrate that the
game has become less Tolkienish.

> But the name of the game itself is derived from Tolkien. How can you say
> it has never been Tolkienish?

Steve Lee was referring to Moria, and I agree with him: Moria is not
particularly a Tolkienish game....

-Chuck
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Joseph W. DeVincentis

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Aug 11, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/11/95
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My current mage also got a War Hammer from Farmer Maggot, but mine was
(+3,+3) and "of Giant Slaying". Of course that Giant Slaying won't mean
much since it'll be a while before I see any giants, but like your case,
it sure beat my +0,+0 whip, and it's not heavy enough to give a hit penalty.

(Still nowhere near as good as the game when he dropped Chaos Dragon
Scale Mail...)


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