Best Weapon? (not Ringil)
Rob Vines
> What is the best weapon in the game (beside Ringil)?
My vote would have to go to the Glaive of Pain. 10d6 +30 damage means
anyone who gets hit with it will just be in a world of hurt. Other
weapons may be sexier, have neater slays, or activate for neat stuff,
but nothing deals the damage out to EVERYTHING like the Glaive.
Note that this vote is based entirely on what I have found while playing
the game--I havn't gone through spoiler files and compared damage-doing
abilities; this is just by far the best weapon my now 50th level character
has found.
Riva the Rogue
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Ron Erwin
: It seems like most would definitely agree that Ringil is the best weapon
: to use foraying through these pits of iron hell. I would like to ask what
: everybody out there thinks is the next best artifact weapon for those still
: without Ringil (like me :( ).
: I ask because I have a whole bunch of artifacts cluttering up my home,
: and would like to clear some of them out, but not sell what might be a
: really great dragonslayer or demonbane. I know, I know, it all depends on
: what other artifacts you have, in reference to stat bonuses and resistances,
: etc., but overall, taking everything into account,
Why don't you get the spoilers and clear out your closet? Why ask for
something that you don't have? Just check them out and use the best.
My best weapon is the Battle Axe of Balli Stonehand. Just watch the
stats jump when I put him on and the slay and protects that it also
brings me. BTW, how can we take everything into account for you?
Ringul is the best, but until we find him we use the best we have.
My best weapon is
: What is the best weapon in the game (beside Ringil)?
: Sorry if this has been debated to death, but I haven't seen it in a while,
: so I thought I'd take a shot. Thanks bunches.
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: Richard Roze
Jan Ekholm INF
> What is the best weapon in the game (beside Ringil)?
Personally I'd go for Deathwreaker. It has 4d10 as a base, and some nice
bonuses. It can also tunnel rock just like that! It does aggravate, though,
but if you're powerful enough that shouldn't be a problem.
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Pearl Jelly
>RDR...@1308.watstar.uwaterloo.ca (Richard Roze) writes:
>> What is the best weapon in the game (beside Ringil)?
BEAT.DEAD.HORSE. ;)
but seriously, I like Circasidan (bad sp :) ) 4d5 dam plus the goodies.
unrelated question,
I recently purchased from the Black Market Gaunlet of Power +5 to
STRENGTH!!! I thought the MAX was 3. I am confused. Is it a glitch?
hmm
another thing, one time (when I was lower level dude) I purchased two
Rings of Slaying (+15, +16)!!! Min dam was 32 with the rings! What is the
max on things like this??
-Confused and Dazed
Timothy Connal Delaney
>> What is the best weapon in the game (beside Ringil)?
>My vote would have to go to the Glaive of Pain. 10d6 +30 damage means
I dunno ... I found that on general the Glaive of Pain just didn't do
enough damage ... basically, a great Flame Brand or Lightning Brand, combined
with other great slays tends to be more effective as you can get more attacks
with them (this from a Hobbit Mage with 18/1** strength). I dumped the Glaive
really quickly. At one point I was carrying the Glaive, Deathwreaker and the
Trident of Ulmo, and found Deathwreaker easily the best of the three.
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Tim Delaney u925...@wumpus.cc.uow.edu.au
S96...@umslvma.umsl.edu
day and so i sat down and did some math based on the current spoilers. i
present a summary of some of the best weapons, IMHO, any of which here
i consider "decent" weapons.
Pure Damage potential-- weapon, and average damage
Grond 105
Doomcaller 73
Deathwreaker 72
(thunderfist, Aule, Pain, Zar..., E branded SoS, BoC, MoD with enchant)
all about 60-65
Ringil and Aeglos 55
Taratol 47 Crisdurian 49 (oops)
Orlorin 43
calris and eonwe 42
Dragon Bashers! not necessarily XDrag. . . just potential dam to Dragons
Grond 225 (did i do that right? i dont think so)
Zar.../ Calris 81
Deathwreaker 72
TFist, Aule, Gurthang, Aule, Pain, SoS,BoC,MoD all around 60
and so on down the list. . .
*NOTICE* all you Taratol lovers, even with Xdrag,
it still only does 47 damage. . .
Overall Weapons that are "Really Good" (make your own final decision. . . )
Ringil, with speed +1 , in FAngband haste self, and +3 attacks
Deathwreaker, with *Res Disenchant*, only FT, but still very solid
Doomcaller, lots of damage, XD, and a REALLY COOL NAME, agrivate (i like it)
TFist decent all around damage. . .
Zar. . . decent damage all around, only FT, but has XD
Calris medium all around damage, but *Res Disenchant*, and good XD dam. . .
Pain, hurts everything ahelluvalot
calculations very well may be off, other opinions are tolerated,
just thought id share what i figured out, but i strongly
encourage anyone interested to do the math themselves, maybe i missed
a keeper. . . .
happy (f)angbanding. . .
christopher sodapop chail boo whatever ya wanna call me speck
Steve Haak
>
> What is the best weapon in the game (beside Ringil)?
>
Well now, my 38th level priest (chillin' at 1850 feet) has never found
anything anywhere near as good as the Bastard Sword Calris. +5 to CON,
X Dragon and Slay everything else, 3d7 (+9, +20) (you have to use several
dozen scrolls of Enchant Weapon to-hit on it before you can use it, though,
and it does Aggravate) OH YEAH it also has Disenchantment Resistance!
If it is not the _BEST_ weapon (besides Ringil) I'd bet money it is in the
top three (Last week I found Glamdring _and_ Orcrist. Sold them both to
that skinflint Half-Troll Ithyl-Mak the Beastly without even thinking
about it)
Krata the Calm, 38th level human priest chillin' at 1850 feet with CALRIS,
Hammerhand, Thranduil, ROS 1 and BOS 1.
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Kenny Mai
Steve Haak <sph...@vela.acs.oakland.edu> wrote:
>In article <RDROZE.3...@1308.watstar.uwaterloo.ca> RDR...@1308.watstar.uwaterloo.ca (Richard Roze) writes:
>>
>> What is the best weapon in the game (beside Ringil)?
>>
>
>Well now, my 38th level priest (chillin' at 1850 feet) has never found
>anything anywhere near as good as the Bastard Sword Calris. +5 to CON,
>X Dragon and Slay everything else, 3d7 (+9, +20)
>and it does Aggravate OH YEAH it also has Disenchantment Resistance!
** SPOILER TO FOLLOW **
According to my spoiler file Calris is:
a Bastard Sword named Calris (3d7) (-20,+20) [+5] CON
Slay Xdragon, Demon, Troll, Evil
Resist Disenchant
Aggravate
xdragon,demon,troll, and evil hardly qualifies as "everything" in
my book ... granted that Calris is a great weapon (especially the +
5 CON), but there are weapons out there with many more slays like
say Zarcuthra ...
just picking nits
km
Glen Barnett
>>RDR...@1308.watstar.uwaterloo.ca (Richard Roze) writes:
>>> What is the best weapon in the game (beside Ringil)?
>
>
of an artifact" award. The first and last letters are correct, but that's
about it.
Glen
Sverre Brubaek
|> well it just so happens that that very question was eating me the other
|> day and so i sat down and did some math based on the current spoilers. i
|> present a summary of some of the best weapons, IMHO, any of which here
|> i consider "decent" weapons.
|>
|> Pure Damage potential-- weapon, and average damage
|> Grond 105
|> Doomcaller 73
|> Deathwreaker 72
|> (thunderfist, Aule, Pain, Zar..., E branded SoS, BoC, MoD with enchant)
|> all about 60-65
|> Ringil and Aeglos 55
|> Taratol 47 Crisdurian 49 (oops)
|> Orlorin 43
|> calris and eonwe 42
|>
|> Dragon Bashers! not necessarily XDrag. . . just potential dam to Dragons
|> Grond 225 (did i do that right? i dont think so)
|> Zar.../ Calris 81
|> Deathwreaker 72
|> TFist, Aule, Gurthang, Aule, Pain, SoS,BoC,MoD all around 60
|> and so on down the list. . .
|> *NOTICE* all you Taratol lovers, even with Xdrag,
|> it still only does 47 damage. . .
|>
For dragonslaying i would say the black arrow with a composite bow of might
is pretty deadly with a average damage of 500-1200 hp (depends on the bow)
|> Overall Weapons that are "Really Good" (make your own final decision. . . )
|> Ringil, with speed +1 , in FAngband haste self, and +3 attacks
|> Deathwreaker, with *Res Disenchant*, only FT, but still very solid
|> Doomcaller, lots of damage, XD, and a REALLY COOL NAME, agrivate (i like it)
|> TFist decent all around damage. . .
|> Zar. . . decent damage all around, only FT, but has XD
|> Calris medium all around damage, but *Res Disenchant*, and good XD dam. . .
|> Pain, hurts everything ahelluvalot
|>
|> calculations very well may be off, other opinions are tolerated,
|> just thought id share what i figured out, but i strongly
|> encourage anyone interested to do the math themselves, maybe i missed
|> a keeper. . . .
|>
|> happy (f)angbanding. . .
|> christopher sodapop chail boo whatever ya wanna call me speck
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Daniel M Silevitch
What about the Trident of Ulmo?
4d10, with good pluses. Adds to DEX, slays dragons and animals. Weighs
almost nothing, so it's easy to get many attacks with it.
I love it!
-dms
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Pearl Jelly
>It`s better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you are a fool
>than to open it and remove all doubt.
Quotations from Brainy Smurf.. 8^) But very true!
anyway, I like Hammer of Aule. Most demons (i think) are not immune to
electricity. They are too easy to kill. Dragons run in fear with my
hammer and Ring of slaying (+15, +16) and RoS and BoS +1. Also Gaunlet of
Power +5 strength. Plus, if you are a priest! +5 to wis! wow
This is my second "fav" weapon after Ringuil. Also, Curbelel(sp) is very
nice to have also.
You know... I have NEVER found Bladeturner or the MHDSM (special one) in
any game. What is the deal? Where should I look for it? I WANT IT. :)
thanks
-Sylvia the Skank (38 th level Ranger @ 1500ft)
Matt Cross
: well it just so happens that that very question was eating me the other
: day and so i sat down and did some math based on the current spoilers. i
: present a summary of some of the best weapons, IMHO, any of which here
: i consider "decent" weapons.
:
: Dragon Bashers! not necessarily XDrag. . . just potential dam to Dragons
: Grond 225 (did i do that right? i dont think so)
: Zar.../ Calris 81
: Deathwreaker 72
: TFist, Aule, Gurthang, Aule, Pain, SoS,BoC,MoD all around 60
: and so on down the list. . .
: *NOTICE* all you Taratol lovers, even with Xdrag,
: it still only does 47 damage. . .
Let us not forget some of the better dragon bashers --
Doomcaller -- 118
and Trident of Ulmo -- 85
The trident has awesome damage for weighing only five pounds, and does
more average with SD than most XD's do. Who needs XD when you do
4d10 +19 ?
-=> Matt Cross -- mcr...@flute.aix.calpoly.edu <=-
Jung Yueh
lightning resistence. Also it does not aggrevate, unlike Doomcaller and
Deathwreaker.
-Jung
"Insanity is the logic of an accurate mind overtaxed."
Et3 Francis
+4 to Wis, 1d20 at +20/+25...cold crits...shoot a frost ball...slay
orcs/trolls/evil...and a few other things I don't remember you have to say
its' pretty damn nice!!!
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David O'Brien
>: well it just so happens that that very question was eating me the other
>: day and so i sat down and did some math based on the current spoilers. i
>: present a summary of some of the best weapons, IMHO, any of which here
>: i consider "decent" weapons.
>[snip]
>:
>: Dragon Bashers! not necessarily XDrag. . . just potential dam to Dragons
>: Grond 225 (did i do that right? i dont think so)
>: Zar.../ Calris 81
>: Deathwreaker 72
>: TFist, Aule, Gurthang, Aule, Pain, SoS,BoC,MoD all around 60
>: and so on down the list. . .
>: *NOTICE* all you Taratol lovers, even with Xdrag,
>: it still only does 47 damage. . .
How did you work out these values against dragons? To dragons, some average
damages are:
Doomcaller: 5(6d5)+28 = 118.
Deathwreaker: 3(4d12)+18 = 96.
Aule: 5(5d5)+21=96.
Zarcuthra: 5(4d6)+21 = 91.
Calris: 5(3d7)+20 = 80.
Durin: 5(4d4)+20 = 70.
Gurthang: 5(3d6)+17 = 69.5.
Taratol: 5(2d7)+12 = 52.
The Glaive of Pain does an average of (10d6)+30 = 65 to everything.
David.
Pearl Jelly
>Glen
I am honored. Thank you! Thank you! Twink. :)