Cheating newbie question: How to use the blanket ?
Thomas Engel
I'm pretty new to ADOM, sort of 'stumbled over it' a week or so ago and thought I give it a try.
I'm already fascinated with the depth of this game but I have to say that I'm also pretty
pissed with some of the diffculties involved. Dying from starvation or having your scrolls
destroyed when swimming are things I didn't like so I looked for some cheats, found out
about G16P2 and WDOMF and started a game and gave my human wizard all sorts
of nice skills like survival, detect traps etc. The reason I tell this is just because it might
be possible that my problem is because of cheating with the save game. Problem is that
I have four different items listed as 'tools': some torches, the blanket and other stuff, but when
I want to select a tool, I only get the torches listed as an option, nothing else. Is it just something
I'm doing wrong or might this indeed be an effect of tampering with the save file ? Would
putting the blanket in the tool slot be the way to have your equipment save in water, anyway ?
TIA,
Thomas
PS. If the commercial version version with character editing would be available, I'd buy, sure.
Apparently TB feels pretty strong about cheating, makes you almost feel guilty . Hey, I just
want some fun.. (g)
Eurakarte
a plush plankton doll and said:
>I'm pretty new to ADOM, sort of 'stumbled over it' a week or
>so ago and thought I give it a try. I'm already fascinated
>with the depth of this game but I have to say that I'm also
>pretty pissed with some of the diffculties involved. Dying
>from starvation or having your scrolls destroyed when
>swimming are things I didn't like so I looked for some
>cheats, found out about G16P2 and WDOMF and started a game
>and gave my human wizard all sorts of nice skills like
>survival, detect traps etc. The reason I tell this is just
>because it might be possible that my problem is because of
>cheating with the save game. Problem is that I have four
>different items listed as 'tools': some torches, the blanket
>and other stuff, but when I want to select a tool, I only get
>the torches listed as an option, nothing else. Is it just
>something I'm doing wrong or might this indeed be an effect
>of tampering with the save file ? Would putting the blanket
>in the tool slot be the way to have your equipment save in
>water, anyway ?
Fire/waterproof blankets work just by carrying them. You don't
need to equip them or anything. They keep your inventory safe
from fire or water, as long as you have them in your
inventory, but there's a chance of the blanket itself being
burnt/drenched. There's also the plain blanket, which doesn't
do anything at all.
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//Eurakarte
Bow to the PRINCE of PLANKTON.
http://eurakarte.com
Norman Lee
07:55:24 GMT, Thomas Engel <Thomas...@netsurf.de> was found slumped over their
keyboard. In their hand was a note reading:
Roguelikes are noticeably harder than your average game. Not in terms of reflexes
or coordination, but the fact that you have to do extremely careful planning to
prevent losing your PC to something stupid. And, of course, it never hurts to run
a few fodder characters to get a feel for the game and know what to avoid.
Using WADOMF for non-research purposes is worse than savescumming, IMO. If you
wanna be a true ADOMite, don't use WADOMF if you're planning to actually play
with the character.
Did you remember to use the WADOMF patch? If not, you'll have to reinstall your
ADOM, apply the patch, and then use WADOMF. Even if you _did_ forget to apply the
patch, however, you probably wouldn't have to reinstall. Just get...
ADOM 1.0.0. It's finally been released and improves upon 0.9.9g16p2. Get it now.
Note that this is still the postcardware version, and has no options to custom-
build your character.
Blankets protect _carried_ equipment (not worn) as long as you keep it in your
pack along with everything else. Only torches are listed when you want to equip a
tool because the inventory category of tools includes everything that most
closely matches a tool and nothing else (i.e., a blanket isn't a food item,
weapon, armor, etc.).
P.S. You may want to adjust your line length to avoid some ugly reply/follow-up
posts.
--
I need a signature.
Malte Helmert
> I'm pretty new to ADOM, sort of 'stumbled over it' a week or so ago and thought I give it a try.
> I'm already fascinated with the depth of this game but I have to say that I'm also pretty
> pissed with some of the diffculties involved. Dying from starvation or having your scrolls
> destroyed when swimming are things I didn't like so I looked for some cheats, found out
> about G16P2 and WDOMF and started a game and gave my human wizard all sorts
> of nice skills like survival, detect traps etc. The reason I tell this is just because it might
> be possible that my problem is because of cheating with the save game. Problem is that
> I have four different items listed as 'tools': some torches, the blanket and other stuff, but when
> I want to select a tool, I only get the torches listed as an option, nothing else. Is it just something
> I'm doing wrong or might this indeed be an effect of tampering with the save file ? Would
> putting the blanket in the tool slot be the way to have your equipment save in water, anyway ?
You don't have to put the blanket (or most other tools, such as a
climbing set) into your tool slot to work, it's sufficient to have it in
your inventory. And yes, a waterproof blanket will keep everything in
your backpack safe from water, though it won't protect the stuff you
have equipped (something else will, ask for details). The tool slot
mainly is a convenience for items that are "u"sed a lot; it isn't really
necessary to put anything into the tool slot, ever.
As for your cheating habits, to each their own. Other than getting
better by playing and learning (which can take ages, mind you), there
are three main ways of getting further into the game:
a) cheating with WADOMF and similar
b) save-scumming (making backups of save games)
c) reading spoilers
Your choice of option a) is fairly unusual; most beginners I know either
do some save-scumming until they get better, or read a lot of spoilers,
or don't cheat at all, which means slow progress, but a greater sense of
achievement after successes. Go as you please, but be aware of the other
options. Editing your savefile is quite a bad habit in my book, because
it can be hard to get rid off, and because precious items or skills you
can acquire in the game lose a lot of their value if you can just edit
them into your saved game.
Malte
Thomas Engel
Thanks for your answer, apparently the effect is not because of a corrupt (sic)
savefile (installed the patch and all), but I'm still not quite sure if I got it right.
The items I have listed as tools are : 3 torches, box with flint and steel, tinderbox
and the blanket from the small cave. I really wonder about the flint, steel and
tinderbox not being tools that can be equipped ? Are these just for lighting
up the torch ?
Regarding being a *true* ADOMite: Ok, I'm trying to find out whether I want to be.
Does that count as research ? (g) Be assured, I won't play this character to
endgame and then brag about highscores around here. If I find I like the game
I will install version 1.0 and start over with an new character.
Regards,
Thomas
Jose Badillo
"Thomas Engel" <Thomas...@netsurf.de> wrote in message
news:3b9004b1...@news.munich.netsurf.de...
> Norman,
>
> Thanks for your answer, apparently the effect is not because of a corrupt
(sic)
> savefile (installed the patch and all), but I'm still not quite sure if I
got it right.
> The items I have listed as tools are : 3 torches, box with flint and
steel, tinderbox
> and the blanket from the small cave. I really wonder about the flint,
steel and
> tinderbox not being tools that can be equipped ? Are these just for
lighting
> up the torch ?
>
> Regarding being a *true* ADOMite: Ok, I'm trying to find out whether I
want to be.
> Does that count as research ? (g) Be assured, I won't play this
character to
> endgame and then brag about highscores around here. If I find I like the
game
> I will install version 1.0 and start over with an new character.
>
> Regards,
> Thomas
>
Items that are not listed in the tools section are because having them is
enough flint and tinderboxes dont have to be equiped they are auto used when
you light a torch other items like climbing set blankets and other such will
ot appear because you dont need to use them for anything but what their
primary purpose is
:)
have fun
NEWBIE
:P
heheh j/k
Norman Lee
20:28:25 GMT, Eurakarte <eura...@eurakarte.com> was found slumped over their
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> Fire/waterproof blankets work just by carrying them. You don't
> need to equip them or anything. They keep your inventory safe
> from fire or water, as long as you have them in your
> inventory, but there's a chance of the blanket itself being
> burnt/drenched. There's also the plain blanket, which doesn't
> do anything at all.
IIRC, waterproof blankets last forever. Or at least the Guidebook thinks so;
there's no mention in there about the waterproof variety being ruined after
constant usage.
Bob Joe
"Norman Lee" <404no...@antisocial.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.15f6f39e6...@news.cis.dfn.de...
You'd think so. Who ever heard of a blanket (especially a waterproof
blanket) being destroyed by getting splashed with lots of water?
Sam Blanning
>
> Thanks for your answer, apparently the effect is not because of a corrupt
(sic)
> savefile (installed the patch and all), but I'm still not quite sure if I
got it right.
> The items I have listed as tools are : 3 torches, box with flint and
steel, tinderbox
> and the blanket from the small cave. I really wonder about the flint,
steel and
> tinderbox not being tools that can be equipped ? Are these just for
lighting
> up the torch ?
>
> Regarding being a *true* ADOMite: Ok, I'm trying to find out whether I
want to be.
> Does that count as research ? (g) Be assured, I won't play this
character to
> endgame and then brag about highscores around here. If I find I like the
game
> I will install version 1.0 and start over with an new character.
>
Thomas Engel
*I* wrote to find out what someone had to say about it. Because
sometimes it seems it's just not worth it.
jibbering poster
> Nope. No way. See, I think it's rather silly having to reread the stuff
> *I* wrote to find out what someone had to say about it. Because
> sometimes it seems it's just not worth it.
>
That seems rather selfish... Let's say a total of 200 people read your post. 199
of them have to scroll down to find out what the fuck you said, and you, 1/2 of a
percent of the reading audience are the only one convienienced...
I wont plonk you (nor anyone for that matter), but you might find your self
silently placed in many readers' /dev/nullz....
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I can't believe I just found a BROKEN quicksilver QS in SMC... heheh
Jens Nober
news:3b8f41d...@news.munich.netsurf.de:
> Nope. No way. See, I think it's rather silly having to reread the stuff
> *I* wrote to find out what someone had to say about it. Because
> sometimes it seems it's just not worth it.
Normally the newsreaders write quoted text in another color, so that you
can find the answer without searching (I used Agent for some time, but I
dont remember if it does that).
As for scrolling down, just write the answers directly after the textpart
you are referring to. You can snip passages about which you dont talk about
so that the amount of text does not keep getting bigger. That helps a lot
to keep things tidy in longer threads.
bye
Jens
rachel walmsley
was heard to utter:
> On Thu, 30 Aug 2001 12:29:28 +0100, "Sam Blanning" <enqu...@nationalcoursingclub.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >Write your answer below the quoted text.
>
> *I* wrote to find out what someone had to say about it. Because
> sometimes it seems it's just not worth it.
[Order of postings rearranged]
There are good reasons for the tradition of posting a new message below
quoted text. Here are some of them:
Due to the way that Usenet works, different messages get to different
people's servers at different times. This means that it is perfectly
possible for someone to see one message before they see the message it
was replying to. In this case they'll want to read what you're replying
to first in order to gain context.
Not everyone will read usenet messages in the same order that you do. I
read Sam's post a long while before I read yours and had to scroll down
through your message to reread what he said before I knew what you were
talking about, and then scroll back up to read what you said with the
context.
Many Usenet posts reply seperately to different points within the same
message, eg:
> quote
reply
> more quoting
reply to the more quoting
This simply is not possible when you reply above the quoted text, so
replying below the quoted text is the standard.
Because it is the standard, most people will ignore the first few lines
of a post, expecting it to just contain an attribution line, scan down
to the bottom of the post, find there's nothing there and then have to
scroll back up to the top of the message if they want to see your reply.
So please reply below quoted text.
RW.
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Timofei Shatrov
confuse everyone with this message:
It can be destroyed by fire. That happens many times.
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Norman Lee
GMT, Timofei Shatrov <gr...@mail.ru> was found slumped over their keyboard.
You're missing the point. Eurakarte said that the blanket can get drenched,
i.e., destroyed. Sure, it can be destroyed by fire. Most non-artifacts can.
I was saying _water_ can't ruin a blanket.
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David Chapman
> A long time ago, in a rec.games.roguelike.adom far away, Thomas Engel
> was heard to utter:
> > On Thu, 30 Aug 2001 12:29:28 +0100, "Sam Blanning" <enqu...@nationalcoursingclub.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > >Write your answer below the quoted text.
> >
> > Nope. No way. See, I think it's rather silly having to reread the stuff
> > *I* wrote to find out what someone had to say about it. Because
> > sometimes it seems it's just not worth it.
>
> [Order of postings rearranged]
>
> There are good reasons for the tradition of posting a new message below
> quoted text. Here are some of them:
One you forgot to mention: it's good to have a contextual
reference for what you said. *You* won't always remember
precisely what you posted, after all.
--
... and I'm not whistling Erskold's
Akron Concerto for Sublimuzer and
Glass Percussion!
Sam Blanning
> Nope. No way. See, I think it's rather silly having to reread the stuff
> *I* wrote to find out what someone had to say about it. Because
> sometimes it seems it's just not worth it.
>
and not at all amusing. HAND.
matija
> --
> \\\\\ http://www.quoth.org.uk/ - Quoth the Rachel...
> \\\\\\\__o , Bringing giant hedgehogs to the
> __\\\\\\\`/__O=O common steamroller since 2K1
awwwww, that's cute :)
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Alexander Deubelbeiss
rachel walmsley schrieb in Nachricht ...
>
> \\\\\ http://www.quoth.org.uk/ - Quoth the Rachel...
> \\\\\\\__o , Bringing giant hedgehogs to the
>__\\\\\\\`/__O=O common steamroller since 2K1
Dinsdale?
Olli Wilkman
jumped matija <mSkPr...@jaIgSor.srEcVe.IhLr> and said:
>rachel walmsley wrote:
>> --
>> \\\\\ http://www.quoth.org.uk/ - Quoth the Rachel...
>> \\\\\\\__o , Bringing giant hedgehogs to the
>> __\\\\\\\`/__O=O common steamroller since 2K1
>
> awwwww, that's cute :)
>
Damn it. I thought my Funky Mouse was original :(
\\\\\\_
\\\\\\\*
---\\\\\\\\\\
Gladly I have the cubistic mouse which cannot be shown in ASCII. It's
that same mouse drawn in a weird Picasso-like way :)
--
Olli "Dronir" Wilkman
Q: How many existentialists does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
A: Two. One to screw it in and one to observe how the lightbulb itself symbolizes a single incandescent beacon of subjective reality in a netherworld of endless absurdity reaching out toward a maudlin cosmos of nothingness.
Malte Helmert
Oh God, it's Spiny Norman!
Malte
rachel walmsley
Deubelbeiss was heard to utter:
alt.fan.pratchett, home of more .sigs based on the ascii art hedgehog
theme than you can shake a stick at. See:
http://www.lspace.org/misc/the-hedgehog-files.html
(which is an old file, as it states that the hedgehog craze has died
down, which is wrong, as it's back in force now)
rw.
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Thomas Engel
Ahem, I have to admit that I am not happy with the way I phrased that :
>the stuff *I* wrote to find out what someone had to say about it.
(English, as you surely know by now is not my first language). Let me
give it another try : "...having to reread the stuff I wrote just to find
out that someone had to say something very irrelevant about it in
a rather unpolite way."
If you still dont get what I mean, maybe you should read out loud
the post that made me write that response. If then you still don't get,
ah well, better plonk me then...
Thomas.
Thomas Engel
Ok, contrary to the other guys.. ehm.. request, yours actually has the
magic word in it (g).
Your points are all valid if a long thread develops but generally I prefer
a more conversational style of usenet posting. Bottom-posting to me
seems like I talk to someone and he/she repeats everything I said, like
an echo. Umph! In some groups top-posting actually is the norm.
You put the quoted text down under for reference for those that
missed the start of the thread or lost a message, but the reply
should be on top. See ? It's so simple (g).
I don't want to disrupt anyones flow of thought around here, but I don't
want to be *ordered* to post in a specfic way either.
Thomas
Thomas Engel
Norman Lee
2001 19:49:44 +0200, Malte Helmert <hel...@informatik.uni-freiburg.de> was
Uh, what?
matija
> >> \\\\\ http://www.quoth.org.uk/ - Quoth the Rachel...
> >> \\\\\\\__o , Bringing giant hedgehogs to the
> >> __\\\\\\\`/__O=O common steamroller since 2K1
> >
> > awwwww, that's cute :)
>
> Damn it. I thought my Funky Mouse was original :(
>
> \\\\\\_
> \\\\\\\*
> ---\\\\\\\\\\
that's a MOUSE ?!?!?!? well, it sure is funky :)
> Gladly I have the cubistic mouse which cannot be shown in ASCII. It's
> that same mouse drawn in a weird Picasso-like way :)
draw it and send me a .jpg ;)
Chris Subich
the evil little half-monkey he is, wrote:
>Ok, contrary to the other guys.. ehm.. request, yours actually has the
>magic word in it (g).
What's the magic word? Hedgehogs?
>
>Your points are all valid if a long thread develops but generally I prefer
>a more conversational style of usenet posting. Bottom-posting to me
>seems like I talk to someone and he/she repeats everything I said, like
>an echo. Umph! In some groups top-posting actually is the norm.
>You put the quoted text down under for reference for those that
>missed the start of the thread or lost a message, but the reply
>should be on top. See ? It's so simple (g).
That is why you reply inline. Break up the quoted text point-by-point and
reply to it. Underneath the immediate reference.
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that would be correct." - Ron Hiler
Sam Blanning
> In article <3B8FCE38...@informatik.uni-freiburg.de>, on Fri, 31 Aug
> 2001 19:49:44 +0200, Malte Helmert <hel...@informatik.uni-freiburg.de>
was
> found slumped over their keyboard. In their hand was a note reading:
> > Alexander Deubelbeiss wrote:
> > >
> > > rachel walmsley schrieb in Nachricht ...
> > > >
> > > > \\\\\ http://www.quoth.org.uk/ - Quoth the Rachel...
> > > > \\\\\\\__o , Bringing giant hedgehogs to the
> > > >__\\\\\\\`/__O=O common steamroller since 2K1
> > >
> > > Dinsdale?
> >
> > Oh God, it's Spiny Norman!
> >
>
It's a Monty Python reference, as far as I can tell. The sketch in question
was a spoof documentary about the Pirhana brother gangsters.
Timofei Shatrov
everyone with this message:
>On Sat, 01 Sep 2001 08:52:07 GMT, Thomas...@netsurf.de (Thomas Engel),
>the evil little half-monkey he is, wrote:
>
>>Ok, contrary to the other guys.. ehm.. request, yours actually has the
>>magic word in it (g).
>
>What's the magic word? Hedgehogs?
>
Please.
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We have the black blot on the white plane. Every dot is added to the blot if the black area of its neighborhood (radius 1) is more than white area and removed if the white area is larger. Is this possible that blot's area will be 1000 times more than initial area?
Thomas Engel
>On Sat, 01 Sep 2001 08:52:07 GMT, Thomas...@netsurf.de (Thomas Engel),
>the evil little half-monkey he is, wrote:
>
>>Ok, contrary to the other guys.. ehm.. request, yours actually has the
>>magic word in it (g).
>
>What's the magic word? Hedgehogs?
Hm, I'm really not quite sure, but me thinks I have to grant you (quite reluctantly)
1000 xp of wittiness for that one. If you really dont know what I mean these
*will* be autocursing...