YAVP: ULE Trollish Barbarian Archmage
ToGu
archmage of her kind :). Took about a month of occasional playing and
280 days ingame, but finally I'm done :)
ADOM Sage was used to avoid endless amounts of spam and for making the
wishing processes somewhat bearable through macros.
Screenshot as spoilerspace, though the existence of such a location is
quite spoily :)
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Rodna St:99 Le:99 Wi:99 Dx:99 To:96 Ch:99 Ap:91 Ma:99 Pe:99 L+
DV/PV:123/53 H:2458(2489) P:22(11586) Exp: 50/72453162 ChAoS Sp: 137
Blessed Invisible
// Guess I should have quaffed the boost potions so this would look better.
// I *was* planning to, but basically plowed through the game after D:49
// without stopping. Even recharged the wand of fireballs in the middle of
// a crowd several times because I didn't (nor had to) prepare properly :)
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// From the very beginning this was going to be a trollish barbarian archmage,
// which seemed remotely possible only with the use of the potions of exchange
// wish engine. It does work quite well, but is *extremely* boring :)
//
// I expected the game to take quite a while and abused both the casino for
// cash and pickpocketing drowning gremlins to make it a bit easier,
// though I prefer not to. In fact the WDL is completely ridiculous -
// using it there was no way I wouldn't succeed, given time.
//
// Eventually I had enough wishes to start wishing for power and spellbooks,
// and luckily got the spellbooks of wish rather early (that is, only took
// several hundred wishes). Easily got 10k PP and most of what I needed on
// Silvernight, and with that wishing further was no problem.
// (Two and at the end three wishes per use of mana orb instead of four
// on Silvernight.)
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Background Information
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Name: Rodna Race: female Troll Class: Barbarian
Eye color: black Hair color: brown Complexion: brown
Height: 8'2" Weight: 440 pounds
Age: 14 (young)
// Was considering getting aged (had quaffed quite a few potions of
// longevity anyway) to reach a venerable age, but a trollish
// prodigy is good too :)
Star sign: Unicorn Birthday: 8/Unicorn (day 98 of the year)
// Scummed for a decent sign, other than that this was the first game
// on this OS, so no bugs (The good kind. Didn't encounter any bad ones
// either, but I was very careful when killing groups of molochs :))
YOUR HISTORY:
Your mother was a wise shaman and healer. You didn't know your
father and his origins seem to be very mysterious.
As a child you were not accepted by the other children of your
tribe. Your childhood was sad and lonely.
In your youth you strived very hard to become the best warrior in
your tribe. You watched, learned and became very strong and nimble.
As a young adult your family was killed in a raid. You became
embittered and filled with the desire for revenge.
At the age of 13 you left your tribe.
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Inventory
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Total weight: 25533 stones Carrying capacity: 134475 stones
He: blessed crown of lightning [+7, +8] (+5 spd) [65s]
Ne: blessed rustproof amulet of life saving [3s]
Bo: blessed ancient mummy wrapping [+1, +5] {Ap-8} [60s]
// My favourite armor
Gi: blessed girdle of carrying [+0, +0] [15s]
Cl: blessed cloak of invisibility (-1, +0) [+1, +0] [30s]
RH: blessed Trident of the Red Rooster (+36, 6d12+18) [+12, +12] {Ma+24}
LH: -
RR: blessed ring of slaying (+9 melee damage, +6 missile damage) [1s]
LR: blessed ring of slaying (+7 melee damage, +6 missile damage) [1s]
// Equipped just at the end. Used immunity + speed before that
Br: blessed bracers of war [+8, +4] {Dx+8} [10s]
Ga: blessed iron gauntlets "Ironfist" (-1, +0) [+1, +3] {St+7} [10s]
Bo: blessed seven league boots [+1, +0] [30s]
MW: blessed long bow of hunting (+6, +3) [30s]
Mi: bundle of 251 blessed arrows of humanoid slaying (+3, 1d6+3) [502s]
// Excellent for killing molochs
Tl: blessed everburning torch [+1, +0] [10s]
// Actually didn't bless everything until I got bored while killing Andy :p
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Stuff
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Total weight: 24616 stones Carrying capacity: 134475 stones
Helmets ('[')
uncursed crown of fire [+6, +5] [65s]
uncursed helm of water breathing [+6, +6] [30s]
// Had lots of ingots at the time and not much to use it on :)
blessed Crown of Chaos (-6, -6) [+0, +15] {Ma+10} (+10 spd) [500s]
Armor ('[')
uncursed blue dragon scale mail (-1, -4) [-1, +10] [200s]
uncursed white dragon scale mail (-2, -4) [-3, +11] [200s]
uncursed robes of resistance (-4, -4) [+3, +12] {To+5} [60s]
Shields ('[')
uncursed tower eternium shield (+1) [+15, +6] [70s]
// Used with the eternium spear for most of the game
Gauntlets ('[')
uncursed elemental gauntlets (-1, +0) [+0, +3] [10s]
// They're great :)
Boots ('[')
heap of 12 uncursed pairs of seven league boots [+1, +0] [360s]
uncursed seven league boots (-1, +1) [+1, +0] [30s]
heap of 2 blessed pairs of seven league boots [+1, +0] [60s]
uncursed seven league boots [+1, +2] [30s]
// Wished for a few spares before diving to finish, but never needed them
Necklaces (''')
heap of 2 blessed amulets of order [6s]
// Used extensively
uncursed ankh [3s]
uncursed Medal of Chaos {Ap+12} [300s]
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// Line was garbled like this, prolly sage's fault
uncursed bracers of speed [+9, +7] (+4 spd) [10s]
One-handed weapons ('(')
blessed eternium spear of devastation (+2, 6d8+14) [25s]
// Weapon of choice for most of the game
uncursed dwarven pick axe "Hammerhead" (+2, 2d10+4) [+2, +2] {To+3}[90s]
uncursed black rune-covered dagger "Needle" (+8, 3d4) [+4, +1] [10s]
Two-handed weapons ('(')
blessed rune-covered halberd "Wyrmlance" (+15, 4d8+10) [-2, +0] [50s]
blessed shining long spear "Soaker" (+9, 3d7) [+3, +0] [10s]
// Pickpocketed :)
blessed rune-covered trident (+6, 3d12+6) [+4, +4] {Dx+12} [80s]
blessed mighty morning star "Grod" (+16, 5d10+5) [-8, +0] [220s]
Missile weapons ('}')
uncursed light crossbow of accuracy (+8, +0) [70s]
uncursed sling of accuracy (+8, +1) [3s]
uncursed long bow of accuracy (+8, +5) [30s]
uncursed long bow of accuracy (+8, +4) [30s]
uncursed long bow of accuracy (+8, +2) [30s]
uncursed long bow of hunting (+6, +3) [30s]
Tools (']')
uncursed anvil [1000s]
// Put to good use around day 130
heap of 3 blessed waterproof blankets [30s]
heap of 13 uncursed waterproof blankets [130s]
heap of 3 blessed fireproof blankets [30s]
heap of 13 uncursed fireproof blankets [130s]
heap of 30 uncursed plain blankets [300s]
uncursed golden ball [10s]
heap of 8 uncursed thieves picks [40s]
heap of 23 uncursed bandages [46s]
heap of 2 uncursed giant boar skulls [600s]
blessed magical writing set (4) [5s]
uncursed magical writing set (1) [5s]
heap of 2 uncursed magical writing sets (2) [10s]
heap of 3 uncursed magical writing sets (6) [15s]
heap of 3 uncursed magical writing sets (5) [15s]
heap of 2 uncursed magical writing sets (3) [10s]
// Never used any
Instruments ('{')
heap of 11 uncursed whistles [11s]
Rings ('=')
uncursed ring of the High Kings [+2, +3] [1s]
heap of 6 uncursed rings of djinni summoning [6s]
// Drowning gremlins
uncursed ring of immunity [1s]
heap of 14 blessed rings of djinni summoning [14s]
heap of 5 blessed brass rings [5s]
heap of 19 uncursed rings of doom [19s]
heap of 19 uncursed rings of damage [19s]
heap of 22 uncursed rings of fire resistance [22s]
Wands ('\')
blessed wand of fireballs (1 charge) [3s]
// Recharged this to blast just about everything at the end
// except balors, cleared the level before entering gate
uncursed wand of wishing (5 charges) [3s]
// Drowning gremlins
uncursed wand of destruction (3 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of destruction (3 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of destruction (3 charges) [3s]
Potions ('!')
heap of 179 potions of holy water [716s]
heap of 5 blessed potions of gain attributes [20s]
heap of 143 blessed potions of ultra healing [286s]
// Also quaffed hundreds of these for HP
heap of 28 blessed potions of boost speed [56s]
heap of 48 uncursed potions of boost speed [96s]
// Didn't need them :)
heap of 981 uncursed potions of exchange [3924s]
heap of 13 blessed potions of exchange [52s]
// Leftovers from wish engine
Scrolls ('?')
heap of 66 blessed scrolls of chaos resistance [132s]
heap of 112 uncursed scrolls of chaos resistance [224s]
// Leftovers from the other wish engine :)
heap of 108 uncursed scrolls of power [216s]
// Obviously found *quite* a few of these throughout the game.
// Don't think I ever read any
Books ('"')
uncursed spellbook of Farsight [100s]
uncursed spellbook of Strength of Atlas [100s]
blessed spellbook of Teleportation [100s]
blessed spellbook of Wish [100s]
uncursed spellbook of Wish [100s]
// Spare :) (got both of them when using up 38 RoDS, lucky)
Food ('%')
blessed cute dog corpse [60s]
// I *did* get her a new one 200 days later :)
blessed Master Summoner corpse [120s]
blessed Ancient Stone Beast corpse [480s]
blessed Chaos Archmage corpse [120s]
blessed quickling bard corpse [30s]
blessed multi-headed chaos dragon corpse [480s]
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Weapon Skills
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// Wished up to Grand Mastery once I could cast Wish
Melee weapon Lvl Hit Dam DV Level Required marks
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Unarmed fighting 15 +12 +12 +12 Grand Mastery
Daggers & knives 15 +20 +12 +5 Grand Mastery
Clubs & hammers 15 +18 +12 +6 Grand Mastery
Maces & flails 15 +18 +12 +6 Grand Mastery
Swords 15 +18 +12 +6 Grand Mastery
Axes 15 +18 +16 +4 Grand Mastery
Whips 15 +24 +19 +15 Grand Mastery
Pole arms 15 +20 +12 +22 Grand Mastery
// Trained to lvl 13
Twohanded weapons 15 +20 +30 +8 Grand Mastery
Staves 15 +20 +10 +40 Grand Mastery
Missile weapon Lvl Hit Dam Ra Level Required marks
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Slings 15 +30 +22 +5 Grand Mastery
// Trained to lvl 10
Bows 15 +30 +22 +5 Grand Mastery
// Trained to lvl 11
Crossbows 15 +30 +22 +5 Grand Mastery
Thrown axes & hammers 15 +30 +22 +5 Grand Mastery
Thrown daggers 15 +30 +22 +5 Grand Mastery
Thrown rocks & clubs 15 +30 +22 +5 Grand Mastery
Thrown spears 15 +30 +22 +5 Grand Mastery
Boomerangs & scurgari 15 +30 +22 +5 Grand Mastery
Shields Lvl DV Level Required marks
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Shields 15 +30 Grand Mastery
// Trained to lvl 9
Damage caused with your melee weapons:
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Right hand: +223 bonus to hit, 6d12+109 damage
Damage caused with your missile weapons:
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Ammunition: 251, base range: 28, +158 bonus to hit, 1d6+97 damage
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Skills
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Alchemy ...................100 (superb) [+1]
Alertness .................100 (superb) [+2d4]
Appraising ................100 (superb) [+1]
Archery ...................100 (superb) [+1d5]
Athletics .................100 (superb) [+2d4]
Backstabbing ..............100 (superb) [+3d3]
Bridge building ...........100 (superb) [+1d3] (mr)
Climbing ..................100 (superb) [+2d4]
Concentration .............100 (superb) [+1]
Cooking ...................100 (superb) [+1d5] (ma)
Courage ...................100 (superb) [+1d5]
Detect item status ........100 (superb) [+1]
Detect traps ..............100 (superb) [+1d3]
Disarm traps ..............100 (superb) [+1d3]
Dodge .....................100 (superb) [+2d4]
Find weakness .............100 (superb) [+1d5]
First aid .................100 (superb) [+1d5]
Fletchery .................100 (superb) [+1d3] (ma)
Food preservation .........100 (superb) [+1d5]
Gardening .................100 (superb) [+1d3]
Gemology ..................100 (superb) [+1]
Haggling ..................100 (superb) [+1]
Healing ...................100 (superb) [+1d3]
Herbalism .................100 (superb) [+1d5]
Law .......................100 (superb) [+1]
Listening .................100 (superb) [+2d4]
Literacy ..................100 (superb) [+1d3]
Metallurgy ................100 (superb) [+1d3]
Mining ....................100 (superb) [+1d3]
Music .....................100 (superb) [+1d3]
Necromancy ................100 (superb) [+1]
Pick locks ................100 (superb) [+1d3]
Pick pockets ..............100 (superb) [+1d5]
Smithing ..................100 (superb) [+1d3]
Stealth ...................100 (superb) [+1d5]
Survival ..................100 (superb) [+2d4]
Swimming ..................100 (superb) [+1d5]
Tactics ...................100 (superb) [+1]
Two weapon combat .........100 (superb) [+1d5]
Ventriloquism .............100 (superb) [+1]
Woodcraft .................100 (superb) [+1d5]
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Spells
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Acid Ball : 71, 45pp (Effectivity: +0)
Acid Bolt : 149, 15pp (Effectivity: +0)
Bless : 75, 10pp (Effectivity: +0)
Burning Hands : 112, 8pp (Effectivity: +0)
Calm Monster : 104, 8pp (Effectivity: +0)
Create Item : 151, 250pp (Effectivity: +0)
Cure Critical Wounds: 92, 16pp (Effectivity: +0)
Cure Disease : 84, 9pp (Effectivity: +0)
Cure Light Wounds : 98, 5pp (Effectivity: +0)
Cure Serious Wounds : 54, 14pp (Effectivity: +0)
Darkness : 91, 4pp (Effectivity: +0)
Death Ray : 89, 111pp (Effectivity: +0)
Destroy Undead : 145, 8pp (Effectivity: +0)
Disarm Trap : 94, 10pp (Effectivity: +0)
Earthquake : 24, 140pp (Effectivity: +0)
Farsight : 71, 21pp (Effectivity: +0)
Fire Bolt : 113, 10pp (Effectivity: +0)
Fireball : 105, 20pp (Effectivity: +0)
Frost Bolt : 76, 14pp (Effectivity: +0)
Greater Identify : 66, 134pp (Effectivity: +0)
Heal : 94, 42pp (Effectivity: +0)
Ice Ball : 76, 31pp (Effectivity: +0)
Identify : 59, 105pp (Effectivity: +0)
Improved Fireball : 138, 30pp (Effectivity: +0)
Invisibility : 115, 10pp (Effectivity: +0)
Knock : 137, 12pp (Effectivity: +0)
Know Alignment : 55, 14pp (Effectivity: +0)
Light : 191, 3pp (Effectivity: +0)
Lightning Ball : 80, 36pp (Effectivity: +0)
Lightning Bolt : 118, 12pp (Effectivity: +0)
Magic Lock : 80, 9pp (Effectivity: +0)
Magic Map : 67, 53pp (Effectivity: +0)
Magic Missile : 82, 9pp (Effectivity: +0)
Mystic Shovel : 113, 100pp (Effectivity: +0)
Neutralize Poison : 85, 11pp (Effectivity: +0)
Petrification : 92, 129pp (Effectivity: +0)
Remove Curse : 156, 50pp (Effectivity: +0)
Revelation : 117, 33pp (Effectivity: +0)
Scare Monster : 92, 12pp (Effectivity: +0)
Slow Monster : 70, 9pp (Effectivity: +0)
Slow Poison : 136, 6pp (Effectivity: +0)
Strength of Atlas : 157, 10pp (Effectivity: +0)
Stun Ray : 90, 8pp (Effectivity: +0)
Summon Monsters : 176, 30pp (Effectivity: +0)
Teleportation : 88, 24pp (Effectivity: +0)
Web : 129, 12pp (Effectivity: +0)
Wish : 109, 3000pp (Effectivity: +0)
// Used quite a few potions of wonder for this :)
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Her further life:
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After slaying Andor Drakon and dispersing his malevolent energies the
pillars of Order appear before you. All the forces of Order seem to be
united behind them. You are lifted to the status of an Avatar of Order and
the tales of your deeds are spread all over Ancardia.
Your deeds are recounted at camp fires and interpreted by philosophers and
priests alike. The common man looks up to you and you slowly start to be
revered as a minor power of Order. After a few millennia have passed you are
raised to the position of a demi-god to guard and protect Ancardia from the
forces of Chaos and Balance forever.
Under your guidance Ancardia becomes an orderly and organized world without
striking changes. Peaceful order (and boredom?) spreads and the world enters
an era of peace and tranquility never again leaving it.
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Her achievements during her adventures:
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Rodna, the trollish barbarian, transformed into an avatar of Order.
She scored 11183919 points and advanced to level 50.
She survived for 0 years, 279 days, 12 hours, 11 minutes and 53 seconds
(373195 turns).
// Was going to finish around 240, but couldn't enter. think I was
// extremely unlucky and it skipped from 22:58 to 0:02 or something
// like that :(
Rodna visited 127 places.
Her strength score was modified by +67 during her career.
Her learning score was modified by +96 during her career.
Her willpower score was modified by +90 during her career.
Her dexterity score was modified by +86 during her career.
Her toughness score was modified by +70 during her career.
Her charisma score was modified by +97 during her career.
Her appearance score was modified by +93 during her career.
Her mana score was modified by +96 during her career.
Her perception score was modified by +88 during her career.
She was the champion of the arena.
She was the head of the thieves guild.
She made a little water dragon very happy.
She defeated the arch enemy of a mighty karmic wyrm.
She saved Khelavaster from certain death.
She ended her adventuring life in the palace of Andor Drakon.
5652 monsters perished under her attacks.
The following 38 artifacts were generated during her adventure:
the si
the dwarven rune axe "Rolf's Companion"
the scythe of corruption "Moon Sickle"
the potion of literacy
the golden gladius "Death's Sting"
the Chaos Orb of Elemental Water
the Chaos Orb of Elemental Air
the Chaos Orb of Elemental Fire
the Chaos Orb of Elemental Earth
the heavy crossbow "The Far Slayer"
the lead-filled mace "Big Punch"
the scorched spear
the mighty morning star "Grod"
// Crowning gift :(
the rune-covered trident
the sword of Nonnak
the elemental gauntlets
the ring of the High Kings
the phial of Caladriel
the crown of science
the ancient mummy wrapping
the ankh
the Crown of Chaos
the Medal of Chaos
the glaive "Long Sting"
the bracers of war
the Chaos Orb of Elemental Mana
the black rune-covered dagger "Needle"
the fine leather armor "Nature's Companion"
the jet-black battle axe "Executor"
the robes of resistance
// Uselessness
the ring of immunity
the dwarven pick axe "Hammerhead"
the iron gauntlets "Ironfist"
the black tome of Alsophocus
the shining long spear "Soaker"
the emerald dagger "Serpent's Bite"
the Trident of the Red Rooster
the rune-covered halberd "Wyrmlance"
She possessed the following intrinsics:
She was fire resistant.
She was poison resistant (enhanced through an item).
She was acid resistant.
She was lucky (enhanced through an item).
Fate smiled upon her.
She was sleep resistant (enhanced through an item).
She was able to teleport.
She was able to control teleportation.
She was invisible (gained through an item).
She was stun resistant (gained through items).
She was resistant to death rays (enhanced through items).
She was shock resistant.
She was able to see invisible things (gained through items).
She was immune to shock attacks (gained through items).
She was immune to fire attacks (gained through an item).
She was immune to acidic attacks.
She was immune to ice attacks (gained through items).
She was able to breathe water (gained through an item).
She was able to resist confusion attacks (gained through an item).
She had the following talents: Affinity with Polemarms, Alert, Careful,
Charged, Defensive Fighter, Dodger, Durable Magic, Extended Magic, Good Book
Caster, Great Book Caster, Mighty Aura, Miser, Potent Aura, Quick, Strong
Aura, Strong Magic, Treasure Hunter.
She had a final speed score of 137 (final base speed: 132).
She was a messiah of Ka'Omsh.
She asked for 2 divine interventions.
// Accidentally prayed once while gathering experience - it cured Slowed :p
She was a holy champion of Order.
The following monsters were vanquished:
29 bandits
// First kill
1 ElDeR cHaOs GoD
1 emperor moloch
1 farmer
115 greater molochs
// Primary source of experience after level 17, where I got the potions of
// exchange engine started
11 greater titans
// Great for experience after molochs stopped giving much
241 gremlins
// A *lot* more drowned :)
2 quicklings
1 quickling bard
1 quickling king
// Didn't visit the tree even though the two corruptions were actually
// my first. Didn't visit the bugs, library or minotaurs either.
- ToGu
dr.Frim
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>// I expected the game to take quite a while and abused both the casino for
>// cash and pickpocketing drowning gremlins to make it a bit easier,
>// though I prefer not to. In fact the WDL is completely ridiculous -
>// using it there was no way I wouldn't succeed, given time.
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Thanks for the great idea how to get a =oDS or perhaps AoLS for
Khelly!!!!;)))))))
I have read 1 cursed scroll of danger, so now gremlins give me more money;))
BTW...I have pickpocketed over 1000 gremlins by now in the WDL...and I am still
N+ though I ought to be N- or even NC by now...I am wearing blessed amulet of
order, but still I expected that it will show...I don't want to pickpocket too
much and then suddenly become a fallen champion...
Could a way of abusing the game and reaching very high stats be scumming ID for
carrot smell rooms and drinking potions of carrot juice, then drinking potions
of exchange? I got my perception increased by 18 while scumming ID in search of
an AoLS...why 18? because of shattering mirrors...
Also, I pickpocketed a sapphire amulet "Preserver"...first time I see this one.
It appears to be very nice.
--
"He is clever, too, although he hides it well."
Prince Jiriki i-Sa'onserei
Nathan Miller
Pickpocketing only affects your alignment when you apply it to
monsters that were generated non-hostile. In your situation you
should be able to do it indefinitely without concern.
> Also, I pickpocketed a sapphire amulet "Preserver"...first time I see this one.
> It appears to be very nice.
Curse you! I've never managed anything better than whirlwind...
njm
DavidByron
> On Wed, 26 May 2004 22:50:00 +0200, ToGu <no...@nowhere.net> wrote:
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> >// cash and pickpocketing drowning gremlins to make it a bit easier,
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> Thanks for the great idea how to get a =oDS or perhaps AoLS for
> Khelly!!!!;)))))))
(***cough, cough***)
You're welcome.
> I have read 1 cursed scroll of danger, so now gremlins give me more money;))
More importantly it means you have access to higher level stuff
like the wand of wishing, although personally I think you'd want
to get the level only just to 8 to get djinn rings, or even lower
it to 2 for amulets of life saving and !oGA / !oEx.
Really need to figure out exactly what level the WDL is initially.....
> BTW...I have pickpocketed over 1000 gremlins by now in the WDL...
My feeling on testing the "Gremlin bomb" - which is the name of the
tactic - was that if you just let the Gremlins expand into the
WDL at large then eventually the 250-odd creature limit would begin to
disperse them throughout the cave. I usually drop a couple of doors
in the small area near the stairs and drop the bomb in the enclosed
area. I've noticed that if you make the area too small - just the 8
squares around the stairs, the Gremlins can die out too easily, unless
you are Doomed (or probably Cursed would also work). The other problem
with allowing them to disperse is trying to get out of the WDL and
back in again. If they are enclosed you can kill them all with a ball
spell (possibly Light).
> and I am still
> N+ though I ought to be N- or even NC by now...
Does the pickpocketing of hostile creatures cause a shift?
> Could a way of abusing the game and reaching very high stats be
> scumming ID for carrot smell rooms and
Well I have a suspicion that the rooms might be more popular at
deeper levels but it's probably just a suspicion. It's way too
slow a way to advance.
DavidByron
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Nice use of Gremlin bomb and Djinn/Exchange.
> // From the very beginning this was going to be a trollish barbarian archmage,
> // which seemed remotely possible only with the use of the potions of exchange
> // wish engine. It does work quite well, but is *extremely* boring :)
I have a high tolerance for pain.
I find that wishing for "exchanges" will work and is a little
shorter than "potions of exchange". The other part goes pretty
quickly if you drop everything but the ingredients. But you've
obviously done it more than I have so if you have any practicle
tips....
> // I expected the game to take quite a while and abused both the casino for
> // cash and pickpocketing drowning gremlins to make it a bit easier,
> // though I prefer not to. In fact the WDL is completely ridiculous -
> // using it there was no way I wouldn't succeed, given time.
Well you can say that about anything.
That's the point I was making a while back when I suggested that
the real challenge is to finish the game as fast as possible (in
the fewest actions). Of the 373,00 turns I assume 95% was
scumming time.
I recently had a normal victory with an Archmage who also used the
Djinn/exchange engine and took note of the times taken on various
pieces of scumming. I think the casino was about 20 K out of a
total of about 80-90 K. About 10 K was the initial ID scumming.
I feel the herb scumming was the least useful (about 15 K) for
what it got me. The wish engine itself was pretty short.
> // Eventually I had enough wishes to start wishing for power and spellbooks,
> // and luckily got the spellbooks of wish rather early (that is, only took
> // several hundred wishes).
Of 3 random books each? It seems the 1:1000 guess is probably
about right then.
> // Silvernight, and with that wishing further was no problem.
> // (Two and at the end three wishes per use of mana orb instead of four
> // on Silvernight.)
But you have to get the Mana Orb for that which means you've finished
practically the entire game and being Archmage is simply icing on the
cake not an aid to victory. I think my solution using potions of boost
and prayer is superior.
> Mi: bundle of 251 blessed arrows of humanoid slaying (+3, 1d6+3) [502s]
> // Excellent for killing molochs
Molochs are humanoids?
> blessed spellbook of Wish [100s]
> uncursed spellbook of Wish [100s]
> // Spare :) (got both of them when using up 38 RoDS, lucky)
38? I thought you said "hundreds".
> blessed cute dog corpse [60s]
> // I *did* get her a new one 200 days later :)
Why not 2?
When you get the Wish engine you qyickly reach a point of standing there
thinking, so what do I get now?
> // Wished up to Grand Mastery once I could cast Wish
Is that in the GB? How do you wish for weapon experience?
How much do you get?
> // Was going to finish around 240, but couldn't enter. think I was
> // extremely unlucky and it skipped from 22:58 to 0:02 or something
> // like that :(
So entering the chaos gate has a time stamp similar to the Stone Circle?
ToGu
Use ADOM Sage and ~automate it :)
>>// I expected the game to take quite a while and abused both the casino for
>>// cash and pickpocketing drowning gremlins to make it a bit easier,
>>// though I prefer not to. In fact the WDL is completely ridiculous -
>>// using it there was no way I wouldn't succeed, given time.
>
> Well you can say that about anything.
> That's the point I was making a while back when I suggested that
> the real challenge is to finish the game as fast as possible (in
> the fewest actions). Of the 373,00 turns I assume 95% was
> scumming time.
Ofcourse, but the WDL gives several wishes in a few days and hundreds of other
items with absolutely no risk. Other methods of scumming sort of pale in
comparison :)
>>// Eventually I had enough wishes to start wishing for power and spellbooks,
>>// and luckily got the spellbooks of wish rather early (that is, only took
>>// several hundred wishes).
>
> Of 3 random books each? It seems the 1:1000 guess is probably
> about right then.
Very very roughly, yes. As in "probably somewhere between 1:100 and 1:100000".
If you've used the exchange-engine, the one thing you should know about time
it takes for items to pop up is that "it varies" :)
Once spent about 120 potions without a single RoDS, then got two subsequent ones :)
>>// Silvernight, and with that wishing further was no problem.
>>// (Two and at the end three wishes per use of mana orb instead of four
>>// on Silvernight.)
>
> But you have to get the Mana Orb for that which means you've finished
> practically the entire game and being Archmage is simply icing on the
> cake not an aid to victory. I think my solution using potions of boost
> and prayer is superior.
True, but getting the spellbook was a lot more difficult than the Mana Orb for
this game ;)
>>Mi: bundle of 251 blessed arrows of humanoid slaying (+3, 1d6+3) [502s]
>>// Excellent for killing molochs
>
> Molochs are humanoids?
Yes. Check http://www.stud.ntnu.no/~houeland/adom/results/datadump
>> blessed spellbook of Wish [100s]
>> uncursed spellbook of Wish [100s]
>>// Spare :) (got both of them when using up 38 RoDS, lucky)
>
> 38? I thought you said "hundreds".
Yes, but 19 at a time (well 38 at that time because I got RoDS twice in a go.
I was dipping 4 stacks at once, picking up the result, blessing RoDS and using)
>>// Wished up to Grand Mastery once I could cast Wish
>
> Is that in the GB? How do you wish for weapon experience?
> How much do you get?
You wish for "better marks" and get about 500 in each with all stats at 99.
>>// Was going to finish around 240, but couldn't enter. think I was
>>// extremely unlucky and it skipped from 22:58 to 0:02 or something
>>// like that :(
>
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> So entering the chaos gate has a time stamp similar to the Stone Circle?
No, I was talking about the stone circle. I was done with all the wishing and
stuff around day 220.
- ToGu
Vlad Grynchyshyn
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Nice idea, I did not thought about that before. Pick pocketed 1500
gremlins, sometimes even got !oCC and !oGA :-)
>
> BTW...I have pickpocketed over 1000 gremlins by now in the WDL...and I am still
> N+ though I ought to be N- or even NC by now...I am wearing blessed amulet of
> order, but still I expected that it will show...I don't want to pickpocket too
> much and then suddenly become a fallen champion...
From my observations, you get closer to chaotic only when monster you
are pick pocketing is not attacking you (does not care about you or
tamed). If monster attacks you, picking pockets seems never give
message that I'm transaggresisng some low (had Law skill at 100).
Also, at NC alignment you stop get more chaotic if you pick pocket
monsters that does not care about you. Warning: pick pocketing in
towns ALWAYS draw alignment towards chaotic even when monsters attack
you theer (lost piety by alignment change in outlaw village when pick
pocketed there attacking outlaws).
>
> Could a way of abusing the game and reaching very high stats be scumming ID for
> carrot smell rooms and drinking potions of carrot juice, then drinking potions
> of exchange? I got my perception increased by 18 while scumming ID in search of
> an AoLS...why 18? because of shattering mirrors...
It could, but it is quite boring. I mentioned that in my another
thread about training stats (though I see that was not very new :-).
dr.Frim
>> Also, I pickpocketed a sapphire amulet "Preserver"...first time I see this one.
>> It appears to be very nice.
>
>Curse you! I've never managed anything better than whirlwind...
>
I already got that, in the ID, also through pickpocketing;)))
DavidByron
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> >>// Was going to finish around 240, but couldn't enter. think I was
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> No, I was talking about the stone circle. I was done with all the wishing and
> stuff around day 220.
Almost had the same thing happen with my Archmage. But I was monitoring
the times each action and figured I was going to miss it 5 hours out.
I just changed my wait pattern and that seemed to do it. ("d been
using '>' and changed to walking a space west and then back again).