On 17.01.2022 08:59, Chris Bowers wrote:
> On Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 10:06:19 AM UTC-5, Janis wrote:
>> My Tourist explored the whole dungeon and just prepared to get
>> the Book, fetch the Amulet, and do the home run. And I noticed
>> that up to now I have gone wishless. Something quite uncommon
>> in my Slashem games at that stage; usually I at least talk to
>> Gypsies to obtain a wish, or go for a fountain or throne wish
>> to obtain something crucial that I am missing. My "problem" is
>> that I am Neutral and I often have swarming incidents by Angels
>> of all ranks at the Plane of Air, and these are usually deadly.
>> One preparation for that is a wish for a c'trice corpse as soon
>> as I am at the portal to Air. Entering the Plane and making the
>> decision for a wish then means to lose two or three turns which
>> may already be fatal in these experienced summonings cases. But
>> having a wishless Slashem game in my ascension list is tempting.
>> Hmm... - Any other [wishless] options to mitigate the risk?
> I use wand of teleport, even on plane of air in vanilla nethack. It
> saves turns gets things away and makes a path. [...]
I use these wands a lot as well. But for the Plane of Air that will
not help in summon storms. The free path is immediately filled by
adjacent monsters the next (monster-)turn, before you can even make
a step. Breaking a wand (ideally one with only 1 charge[*]) instead
is slightly better, but the summonings are so efficient that one
can be lucky if he could advance more than one square. Slashem is
probably a lot harder than Vanilla here because of the many types
of high level spell casters you typically meet there.
[*] It would help better if the radius of the teleport effect of a
broken wand would depend on the number of charges left; I think it
would be a good change if, say, 1 charge would affect the adjacent
monsters, 4 charges the next circle and 9 charges another circle.
> I would suggest you do some experimentation on the plane of air in
> explore mode. And with angels in explore mode. Find our what makes
> them tick before you try to go wishless.
Actually that game (from last year) is already terminated. After I
inspected the logfile and saw that (without noticing) I already had
ascended a couple characters wishless I decided to not risk it and
(so I think to recall) wished for that stoning corpse. At least the
endgame log reports for the game from around that date: "You used 1