playing solitaire in Vegas
Steve Holden
Hello!
Does anyone have a pointer to info on playing solitaire
in Las Vegas? Is it possible and what are the rules?
My search so far for info has been very unsuccessful.
Thanks!
Steve
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Erik Kraft
sho...@cod.nosc.mil (Steve Holden) wrote:
>
>Does anyone have a pointer to info on playing solitaire
>in Las Vegas? Is it possible and what are the rules?
>
I assume you are refering to Solitaire played for money in the casinos.
I've lived here in Vegas (on and off) for over ten years. I have never
seen any such game in any of the casinos. Sorry.
I have heard that there are casinos in Reno, Nevada that offer a type
of solitaire game, but I have no first-person knowledge of them. Try
looking there.
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David C. Jones
Steve Holden (sho...@cod.nosc.mil) wrote:
: Does anyone have a pointer to info on playing solitaire
: in Las Vegas? Is it possible and what are the rules?
: My search so far for info has been very unsuccessful.
I have heard of two different variations used, but never actually
seen either of them. Both of them require an initial bet of $52
and pay $5 for every card you can play to the foundation.
The first variation is called Canfield and can be found in several
solitaire books. The first pile is twelve down and one up. The
next four piles are all one up. Turn up the next card and lay it
in the foundations. Foundations are built up in suit to kings
after which they wrap-around to aces. Cards are dealt three at
a time from the remaining deck. Playfield is built down and in
alternating colors. You cannot put kings on aces. Empty spaces
in the last four rows must be filled from the far left pile
until exhausted. After that, if any of the four columns become
open you may place any card you wish from normal deal. When
the far left pile is exhausted, that column is no longer used.
No limit on redeals.
Second variation is standard Klondike with the following restrictions:
Cards are dealt one at a time instead of threes. No redeal; after
you go through the deck once, you're done.
Davy J.
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Matthew Daly
sho...@cod.nosc.mil (Steve Holden) writes:
>Hello!
>
>Does anyone have a pointer to info on playing solitaire
>in Las Vegas? Is it possible and what are the rules?
If I've been told correctly, you used to be able to play Klondike
by paying $52 for the deck, playing through the cards one at a time
once, and getting $5 for every card you moved into the foundation
at the end (or $500 for getting the whole deck). You can simulate
this by using "Vegas scoring" if you play Solitaire in Windows.
But there was a rule in there that you couldn't leave a card in
the stacks that could be moved up to the foundation. For instance,
if you had an ace, two, three, and four of hearts and a three of
spades in the stacks, you couldn't put the black three on the red
four and the red two on top of that -- you would have to move all
the hearts up to the foundation (which effectively freezes the
pile with the black three).
I doubt you'll find anyone who does it these days. Apparently, it
took too long to play, the casinos weren't making a lot of money,
and the players weren't happy that the strategy of the game had
been eliminated.
-Matthew
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Bryan Stout
>>Does anyone have a pointer to info on playing solitaire
>>in Las Vegas? Is it possible and what are the rules?
>
>this by using "Vegas scoring" if you play Solitaire in Windows.
>
>But there was a rule in there that you couldn't leave a card in
>the stacks that could be moved up to the foundation. For instance,
>if you had an ace, two, three, and four of hearts and a three of
>spades in the stacks, you couldn't put the black three on the red
>four and the red two on top of that -- you would have to move all
>the hearts up to the foundation (which effectively freezes the
>pile with the black three).
>
>I doubt you'll find anyone who does it these days. Apparently, it
>took too long to play, the casinos weren't making a lot of money,
>and the players weren't happy that the strategy of the game had
>been eliminated.
>
Speaking of Klondike strategy, I've gotten used to the way the game is
presented in the Windows Solitaire game. It is the only computer version I've
seen that allows one to break up a sequence in the tableau and move just part
of it over, or to bring cards back down from the built-up piles. These two
things make the game truly a thinking challenge. By carefully noting the cards
as I turn them over (and remembering the important details), I find I can as
often as not get my score into the black, using the "Las Vegas" scoring (and
turning either one or three). I usually challenge myself to get into the black
before getting $200 or $300 in the red -- it has a good balance of success and
failure.
Bryan
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Matthew Daly
cd00...@interramp.com (Bryan Stout) writes:
>
>Speaking of Klondike strategy, I've gotten used to the way the game is
>presented in the Windows Solitaire game. It is the only computer version I've
>seen that allows one to break up a sequence in the tableau and move just part
>of it over, or to bring cards back down from the built-up piles. These two
>things make the game truly a thinking challenge.
I like that too. Is that play "according to Hoyle," or am I <gasp!>
Cheating At Solitaire [TM]?
>By carefully noting the cards
>as I turn them over (and remembering the important details), I find I can as
>often as not get my score into the black, using the "Las Vegas" scoring (and
>turning either one or three).
Speaking of strategy-based Klondike games, I remember a version
for Unix that showed all of the cards in your hand face-up with
every third card pulled out, so you could play with all the
available knowledge at your immediate disposal. I didn't spend
too much time with it, but it was fascinating playing.
>I usually challenge myself to get into the black
>before getting $200 or $300 in the red -- it has a good balance of success and
>failure.
I play until I'm either $100 in the hole at the end of a hand or
I've won the jackput or played 10 games. I'm happy if I've finished
all ten games and ecstatic if I've made money over ten rounds.
That's even harder than winning the jackpot in one of the 10
games, which happens every four or five times that I play a set
like this.
