Pinochle - Single Deck - Meld Scoring
John and Michelle Zeller
A run, with one 9, and marriages in the other three suits. In essence,
a roundhouse, with one of the marriages within the run.
We have a difference of opinion here:
1. 16 for the run and the nine, 24 for the roundhouse, a total of
40. In other words, count the marriage within the run as part of a
roundhouse, a marriage of trump.
or
2. 16 for the run with the nine, 20 for the 80 kings, 60 queens, and
the three non trump marriages - total, 36.
Thanks, I won't let you know which is my opinion, nor which is my wife's
family!
Sparrowhawk
You never count the marriage in trump "inside" of your run....hence you
have 36 points.
Randy
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Sparrowhawk <ra...@snakebite.com> wrote:
> In article <3828FD1E...@sprintmail.com>,
> John and Michelle Zeller <zel...@sprintmail.com> wrote:
> > I need some opinions on the official scoring of the following meld:
> >
> > A run, with one 9, and marriages in the other three suits. In
> essence,
> > a roundhouse, with one of the marriages within the run.
> >
> > We have a difference of opinion here:
> >
> > 1. 16 for the run and the nine, 24 for the roundhouse, a total of
> > 40. In other words, count the marriage within the run as part of a
> > roundhouse, a marriage of trump.
> >
> > or
> >
> > 2. 16 for the run with the nine, 20 for the 80 kings, 60 queens,
> and
> > the three non trump marriages - total, 36.
> >
> > Thanks, I won't let you know which is my opinion, nor which is my
> wife's
> > family!
> >
> >
>
> You never count the marriage in trump "inside" of your run....hence you
> have 36 points.
>
> Randy
>
Agreed. A "roundhouse" (or "round house", also "round robin") is not
actually a piece of meld. Instead, it's a shorthand way of saying "Kings
Around and Queens Around". Because it's not a piece of meld, a roundhouse
scores no points.
Of course, the component melds-- Kings Around, Queens Around, and the
non-royal (or "common") marriages-- *do* score points, as does the run in
trump. But you can't score the royal marriage in addition to the run in
which it appears.
If you could, A-10-K-Q-J would be worth 19 points -- 15 for the run and 4 for
the royal marriage. Would A-10-J be worth points too? There's a slippery
slope around here somewhere....
David Dailey
Shoreline, Washington, USA
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George G. Klemic
The common rule is that it counts 35 (no bonus for having
both). However, in my family, we specifically play that
a round house and run (we call it a flush) is worth 39.
A flush just counts 15 (the pair used does not count).
Sparrowhawk
That would be incorrect.
All the rulebooks (or Hoyle and other all-encompassing card rule books)
show it the second way... 36 points. You do not count the marriage
inside the run (or flush) because they are in the same class,
"SEQUENCES." Usually those books also show that you do not need to head
the trick, though I know it is a common house rule to do so. You must
play a higher card, if able, only when Trump is lead.... never any other
time.
Randy
--
He that sows lies in the end shall not lack of a harvest
-JRRT-
Sparrowhawk
The original question included a dix... hence the 36 vs 40 points. By
having a "bonus" of 4 pts. for the roundhouse/flush you are counting the
royal marriage in this special case. There are lots of house rules for
Pinochle and everytime I go somewhere else I have to learn a few more. I
like the basic rules the best with no bonus points and no heading the
tricks unless trump is lead.