CFTBL Creature Playfields available
MarsNeedsWomen
36-20018-R CREATURE FROM THE BLACK LAGOON PLAYFIELD $650.00
http://www.illinoispinball.com/oscommerce/product_info.php?cPath=49&products_id=3447
Seems like a bargain after paying $1100 for an AFM PF.
Sonic
The CFTBL playfield is pretty much an exact repro...the AFM is
improved over the original in wood-type and ply, as well as comes with
6 layers of clear - all for about $300 more (at least I only paid
$950)......
Taylor-VA
When did the AFM start going for $1100. The clear adds at least $300
in value so makes both playfields comprable if you ask me.
heckheck
What makes you say that the 11 ply wood is an improvement over the
original 7 ply wood? I read in the original post announcing the AFM
playfields that it is "harder" but I think a categorical statement
that it is better is lacking evidence. I say this because for a while
many people were saying acrylic plastics were better than PETG,
because they were harder. That was pretty soundly disproved after
much hoopla and lots of strong opinions.
I'm not saying your statement might not be true, but I wonder if the
repro business isn't better off sticking to the original materials
used to produce parts, since there was probably a fair deal of R&D
done to determine what works in a pinball machine. I doubt the 7 ply
wood used in the originals is vastly inferior (even if it was chosen
partly based on cost, which I can't say it was one way or another),
since it has held up in 1000s of DMD era pins and earlier with very
few problems that can be blamed on wood failure (scoop damage and
dimples being the only two I can readily think of).
h_h
PinBall Wizzards
Still a deal. I paid $450 for a used PF plus shipping and then
shipped it off to PFR to be done and had it repainted in Hot Pink. It
really didn't look all that bad but the reality was there was a
million very small cracks all through it. As a result, the restoration
was VERY expensive. So I have a beautiful end result but at over
$1300.
Tony
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"MarsNeedsWomen" <bowlingf...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Doug Huse
wrote:
> Not sure if this is old news, but noticed these on IPB site today:
>
> 36-20018-R CREATURE FROM THE BLACK LAGOON PLAYFIELD $650.00
>
>
> Seems like a bargain after paying $1100 for an AFM PF.
You really have to thank Kim and IPB for keeping these affordable and
within the reach of average collectors. Not only do they offer the
playfields at a reasonable price, there is no need for a "prepay" and
pray that they will turn out ok.
Thanks Kim!
Doug
vetpi...@sympatico.ca
Are these drilled and dimpled so ready immediately for a swap like
the AFM playfields and any idea how many clearcoats? I just don't want
to go down the FH playfield extra work route again....
Thanks
ME
Pinsgonewild
takes all but a few hours to do. I know there are some that would like
this done before hand but more labor and equipment for the manufacture
means a higher price for the consumer. I think a new low production
run playfield for a classic game at 650.00 is a very fair price when
put into perspective of the machine as a whole. Thank You Kim and Gene
for reproducing another classic playfield at an affordable price...
Oh and for you restorers out there give it a try, you will be
surprised how simple the process really is...
Don...
Sonic
well as comes with hole protectors I believe installed......the CFTBL
is not....
It's not so much the ply difference - although I would definitely
argue more ply's the stronger the wood, but also that different wood
was used and the suspect wood for screw stripping, was removed and
replaced.
slyth...@yahoo.com
d
slyth...@yahoo.com
Does the 6 layers of clear REALLY ad value? Has anybody stopped to
think about what these playfields are gonna look like 10 years from
now when the inserts start lifting or sinking again. Will the clear
coats flex to accomodate or just crack like hell. Or when the usual
heavy ball trail wear on a particular title starts digging through
it. The more layers of clear, the softer the surface. I am a little
wary of this practice. Not to knock anybody that does it, because it
makes a playfield look great. It is the long term I am concerned
with. Any thoughts?
martin
Both playfields are dimpled, T-nutted and clearcoated. AfM has some in-
hole protectors with it, plus a few polycarbonate washers. CftBL looks
like the standard maple-gum construction, AfM has more, thinner
layers. Outsides are definitely maple.
Clearcoat stands up just fine if the machine is maintained. Airballs
make dimples no matter what, and scuffed balls will wear trails.
Brian Bannon
Well, I would agree that drilling, dimpling and T-nutting is not
particularly hard to do, but it is very painstaking to do. As one who
has done the above process many times, I am glad that the new repro
playfields are available, yet I do wish they would include all the
drilling and dimpling.
Brian Bannon