TZ Chrome Clock Housing
twilightzonepinball
B Coney
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Do you have another picture of it installed from the players
perspective? I'd like to see how it looks from that view.
Brian
twilightzonepinball
No other pics right now, but I guarantee you'll like the look. No more
exposed clock guts.
-Tom
PT
my head... Do you mean to tell me that even with 1.24 million mods on
your TZ you don't have the piano mod? ;-)
John
twilightzonepinball
Why would I put someone else's mod on MY TZ?
-Tom
EngineerFOUR
twilightzonepinball
I did have a small mod there that was a piano keyboard on top of the
scoop. I removed it during restoration and have not re-installed it
yet.
-Tom
twilightzonepinball
Taylor-VA
pincorrect
to a known problem with the game components?
twilightzonepinball
> No ventilation holes? Why make a case mod that isn't an improvement
> to a known problem with the game components?
Good point! Ah with the aftermarket boards or modding with LEDs which
most people do, then holes would be bogus. Doncha think?
-Tom
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twilightzonepinball
> If this gets bidded past $150 will you admonish yourself?
For what?
Taylor-VA
argue that an auction is totally innocent and it justifies you
charging a lot for your time. Others will cry gouging and being
greedy. You make the call.
I figure most mods that fall near $30 to make sense.
For a a small figurine even if it lights up, it should not be over
$50.
twilightzonepinball
I anticipate this going in the $75 region, in which case I will lose
money.
-Tom
Taylor-VA
Unless using a board fitted w/LEDs I would get concerned that this
would cause a lot more heat
than a standard transparent one as the reflective surface would create
an oven effect.
PinAffliction
un-drilled too.
Un-drilled allows the user to decide if they think they need the extra
ventilation or not, easy enough to add the holes as people did to the
original clock.
And as for the winning bid price, as has been said so many times here
before, a pin is worth whatever someone is willing to pay at the time,
so it goes for mods, no one is making anyone buy anything!
One might have a gouging argument with a critically required pinball
part that is keeping someones game out of service, but mods,
please....
Scott
, On Dec 26, 8:29 pm, twilightzonepinball <tomwi...@myfairpoint.net>
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Taylor-VA
I still think the mirroring of the inside of the housing could make it
work like a solar oven.
I for one would suggest anyone to modding to LEDs but someone running
an incandescent
board with this housing may want to be careful.
As far as pricing of mods...I couldn't agree more.
I just wish others grasped that concept as easily.
chuck
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Now why would you create a mod and sell it to lose money??
twilightzonepinball
I had one made for my TZ and another to sell and hopefully pay for
mine. If it bids up a bit I can get my housing paid for. Also to see
demand for doing more.
-Tom
vivacarlos
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So what if it was a critical part.
If you want or need it, you will pay what you see fit.
No gouging argument either way.
Besides, gouging has become the American Way
PinAffliction
game too, rather than pay too high of a price for some essential part.
On the other hand, we would likely keep playing a game without paying
for a high priced toy or "fluff".
My JD plays exactly the same with or without the eagle topper, so I
took a long time to get one for a good price, if parts of the
Deadworld were missing, the game might be parted out if replacements
were too costly.
As a community of pinball enthusiasts trying to keep the hobby alive,
I meant, and personally feel, that one might be more likely to be
called out for reckless profiteering on crucial parts, than when doing
so for mods and fluff, such as chromed clock housings.
I realize I was not being very realistic with that statement, and I
understand your view that maxing profit is okay no matter the item for
sale or impact on the hobby.
Looking forward to ringing in a new decade, and more so to making sure
the last decade really leaves!
Happy New Year everyone.
Scott
On Dec 27, 7:04 pm, vivacarlos <rjn...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Dec 27, 5:35 pm, PinAffliction <s.to...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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>
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> > Interesting idea Tom, not unlike the colored housings which were sold
> > un-drilled too.
> > Un-drilled allows the user to decide if they think they need the extra
> > ventilation or not, easy enough to add the holes as people did to the
> > original clock.
> > And as for the winning bid price, as has been said so many times here
> > before, a pin is worth whatever someone is willing to pay at the time,
> > so it goes for mods, no one is making anyone buy anything!
> > One might have a gouging argument with a critically required pinball
> > part that is keeping someones game out of service, but mods,
> > please....
>
> > Scott
>
> > , On Dec 26, 8:29 pm, twilightzonepinball <tomwi...@myfairpoint.net>
> > wrote:
>
> > > On Dec 25, 11:15 pm, pincorrect <icor...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > No ventilation holes? Why make a case mod that isn't an improvement
> > > > to a known problem with the game components?
>
> > > Good point! Ah with the aftermarket boards or modding with LEDs which
> > > most people do, then holes would be bogus. Doncha think?
>
> > > -Tom
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> So what if it was a critical part.
> If you want or need it, you will pay what you see fit.
> No gouging argument either way.
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twilightzonepinball
Regarding thermodynamics, most if not all of the heat in the TZ clock
is generated by the incandescent lamps. The lamps heat the air much
like hot objects heat surrounding air, and the air carries the heat to
other nearby objects.
With radiant heat, like from the sun, heat travels as waves through
space and heats objects at distance. Not really heating the air in
between.
I would therefore contend that since the heat in a TZ clock is not
radiant, the mirror finish would not magnify the heat internally,
since the heat is mainly the hot air coming off the lamps inside. Yes
the mirrored housing would trap heat just like any other clock housing
without holes. The holes are ugly and since most folks convert to LEDs
in some fashion, it's a moot point.
-Tom
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The bulbs in the clock generate less than half of the heat. The bulk
of it comes from the opto LED circuits, which are heavily driven.
Fortunately, replacing the lamps with LEDs takes enough of the heat
out that the problem is reduced.
Common aftermarket boards have the same problem, but home users tend
not to leave the machines on 24x7 in hot environments.