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Wizard of OZ Woz - I hope not.

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Pinlover

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May 8, 2011, 9:32:57 AM5/8/11
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After watching the Jersey Jack pinball Video on youtube that was
approx 45mins, Jack mentioned about
setting up the factory not the same as Stern with the ladies doing
there wiring work on a board, as
has been done in the past 50 years.

Now this had me thinking, boy i hope it's not a complete circuit
board under the playfield!
this would be a real pain in the (_*_) to repair etc.

So hopefully the wire will still be there. :)

Retrogameconnection

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May 8, 2011, 9:48:22 AM5/8/11
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Rumour has it that the large wiring harnesses are being replaced with
a CAN-Bus system. (Controller Area Network).

Chris

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May 8, 2011, 9:49:56 AM5/8/11
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I believe that JJ was referring to the "passing down" assembly line
structure when a game is manufactured.

I would think that it would cost twice as much to manufacture a
pinball machine as a complete circuit.

Twice as expensive to repair as well....

DJS

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May 8, 2011, 10:12:11 AM5/8/11
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I thought the comment to mean they are not be doing as much of the
work/assembly in-house right away but rather might be subcontracting
out more things, thus the production line would not appear as huge and
extravagant, I'm sure a ton of stuff is already subcontracted out as
it would be at Stern and any other complicated product.

Tom G

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May 8, 2011, 10:48:56 AM5/8/11
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I think you guys worry WAY TOO MUCH

Chris

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May 8, 2011, 10:49:57 AM5/8/11
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Has CAN-bus been confirmed by Jersey Jack?

Give me wire all day any day as opposed to dealing with a bunch of
microcontrollers running on multiple ICs.

Being in networking for 20+ years, I can go ahead and tell you that
CAN-bus problems always have to be replaced…..not repaired!

Collectors are going to have a cash cow when (not if) they have to
replace one of the microprocessors that handle those controllers.

This is why you always end up paying out the ass when the CAN-bus in
your car fails.

Then again, I guess if you can afford to drop $7K on a pinball
machine, you don’t worry about stuff like this.

Retrogameconnection

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May 8, 2011, 1:35:39 PM5/8/11
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It's not confirmed but something I heard from a friend that was at one
of his presentations. On the plus side CAN bus is VERY reliable. I've
been working with gyro stabilized camera systems that use them for
years (10+) and have never seen or heard of a failure.

That is one of the reasons why the auto industry adopted it !!

mnpinball

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May 8, 2011, 7:45:58 PM5/8/11
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Working in the auto industry for many years, a failure in the Lincoln
Continental and Mark VIII line was very expensive :-/
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