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Pindoc1
Nov 7, 2012, 8:35:38 PM11/7/12
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Wow!
You drank deeply from trough of lies and drivel filled with the liberal
Kool-Aid.
Write whatever you want. All that crap you are spouting is untrue. I
did not even bother reading half of it. I know it is lies.
I am not going to convince you and you certainly will not convince me.
Plus whatever we write here will not be read by anybody on the fence
looking to be convinced one way or the other. I know you are full of
crap and I would be wasting my time.
So......Bye, Bye.
metallik;2017001 Wrote:
> On Nov 7, 2:56*pm, Pindoc1 <bce6... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
> > I am going back and forth between disappointment, anger and
> incredulity
> > concerning the stupidity of brainwashed idiots that just re-elected
> the
> > worst president the United States has ever had
>
> Melodramatic much? Let's see how bad it's been over 4 years...
>
> - unemployment is about the same level, except now it's dropping
> instead of climbing
>
> - housing is recovering, prices have bottomed and are slowly
> rebounding, and new housing starts are increasing
>
> - more people have access to healthcare, meaning less overall
> suffering, while rates haven't increased much
>
> - more jobs are being added than lost, for over a year
>
> - gm, chrysler and ford are relatively healthy companies now, the
> hammer of doom no longer hanging over the midwest
>
> - handled several major natural disasters much better than the bush
> administration handled katrina
>
> - bin laden is dead, al quaeda is decimated. If Obama's biggest
> fuckup as president was the Benghazi attack, I'd say that's a pretty
> good record. It was a mistake to leave the compound undefended, but
> that should have been taken care of by underlings - presidents do not
> set specific staffing levels for individual buildings.
>
> Yes, we have a lot of debt. That'll get mitigated quite a bit when
> the inevitable inflation hits. Other than the debt, I don't see any
> major issues. Certainly nothing to earn 'worst ever' title.
>
> Right wing conservatives get so whiny when they don't get their own
> way. I tuned Limbaugh in this afternoon for the heck of it, was quite
> entertaining LOL
>
> > "The problem with Socialism is that you eventually run out of other
> > people's money."
>
> Problem with pure capitalism is that folks at the top design the
> system to their benefit. How many people "earn" money by doing
> nothing but playing the financial game and pushing paper? They don't
> contribute anything meaningful to society... these are the true
> leeches. They don't invent, they don't create, they don't fix or
> help... they just exist, and take.
>
> The vast ,vast majority of your (and Romney's 47% of "takers") would
> happily earn a living, if they had access to quality jobs and
> benefits. Unfortunately, CEOs and businessmen like Romney ship the
> good jobs to lower-wage countries, to save a buck, not realizing
> they're destroying America in the process. All that are left are
> crappy service jobs meant for kids and students.. jobs which don't
> even pay enough to live on, let alone raise a family (that republican
> staple of stability).
>
> It's a shame... most conservative folks are well-meaning and do care
> about the country, they just don't think, don't reason out cause/
> effect, and don't seek out different opinions.. rather, they listen
> to trash radio and are spoon-fed their 'opinion'.
--
Pindoc1
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DRDAVE
Nov 7, 2012, 8:57:35 PM11/7/12
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Think on this for a moment:
Hard working people who aspire for more for themselves and their
families are officially - today and perpetually going forward - the
minority. Those who resent or feel victimized by success and
achievement are now and will continue to be the majority in the US.
And the mainstream media, bolstered by its successful alliance with
the new majority, will continue to fuel the self-perception that we
are indeed victims and that anyone who has succeeded should not be
admired, praised, or followed, but instead should be ridiculed,
dishonored, attacked and – most importantly – made to pay compensation
for having stolen, cheated, exploited, or taken advantage of an unfair
playing field – for not having paid their fair share. The winners of
this election publicly stated that any hard working owner of a
successful business didn’t build it. They told us that success is
built on the backs of others and on roads and bridges provided by
government, without acknowledging that hard working, successful people
bear the entire cost of government.
On Nov 7, 1:33 pm, nlr...@verizon.net wrote:
> > Never. I just need to move to a battleground state where it will make a difference...or maybe someday our country will do the right thing so everyone's vote will truly matter either way.
>
> Maybe you're just on the wrong side of history? Have you noticed the
> coalition that has won the last two presidential elections? Believe
> me, bloated old white guys with antiquated ideas about liberty,
> equality, capitalism, women, minorities and gays - not too mention the
> Kronic baby! - may have just lost political relevance....forever.
>
> Think of it like sand. The tighter you try and squeeze it in your
> hand, the more it slips through your fingers. With all due respect,
> maybe the real problem in this country is really you and your ilk.
> Desperately trying to maintain a past that never existed in the first
> place while the world keeps turning. Time waits for no one.
>
> Roll with the changes brother. if more people could embrace
> possibility rather than fight it, the world would be a much better
> place. I know it's hard but the things that matter always are.
Hard working people who aspire for more for themselves and their
families are officially - today and perpetually going forward - the
minority. Those who resent or feel victimized by success and
achievement are now and will continue to be the majority in the US.
And the mainstream media, bolstered by its successful alliance with
the new majority, will continue to fuel the self-perception that we
are indeed victims and that anyone who has succeeded should not be
admired, praised, or followed, but instead should be ridiculed,
dishonored, attacked and – most importantly – made to pay compensation
for having stolen, cheated, exploited, or taken advantage of an unfair
playing field – for not having paid their fair share. The winners of
this election publicly stated that any hard working owner of a
successful business didn’t build it. They told us that success is
built on the backs of others and on roads and bridges provided by
government, without acknowledging that hard working, successful people
bear the entire cost of government.
On Nov 7, 1:33 pm, nlr...@verizon.net wrote:
> > Never. I just need to move to a battleground state where it will make a difference...or maybe someday our country will do the right thing so everyone's vote will truly matter either way.
>
> Maybe you're just on the wrong side of history? Have you noticed the
> coalition that has won the last two presidential elections? Believe
> me, bloated old white guys with antiquated ideas about liberty,
> equality, capitalism, women, minorities and gays - not too mention the
> Kronic baby! - may have just lost political relevance....forever.
>
> Think of it like sand. The tighter you try and squeeze it in your
> hand, the more it slips through your fingers. With all due respect,
> maybe the real problem in this country is really you and your ilk.
> Desperately trying to maintain a past that never existed in the first
> place while the world keeps turning. Time waits for no one.
>
> Roll with the changes brother. if more people could embrace
> possibility rather than fight it, the world would be a much better
> place. I know it's hard but the things that matter always are.
metallik
Nov 7, 2012, 9:53:19 PM11/7/12
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> Write whatever you want. All that crap you are spouting is untrue. I
> did not even bother reading half of it.
"Whatever you say isn't true, even if I don't know what you just
said."
If your mind was any more closed, it'd implode upon itself in a puff
of dislogic.
Laughable :)
Pindoc1
Nov 7, 2012, 10:05:46 PM11/7/12
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What is really laughable is that you liberals keep repeating the lies
over and over again expecting people to start believing it as truth.
Think!!!!
Don't just drink in the lies that the mainstream media and liberal
politicians spew out everyday.
ldnayman
Nov 7, 2012, 10:34:38 PM11/7/12
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an ongoing trend.
Does that frighten you?
DRDAVE
Nov 7, 2012, 10:40:54 PM11/7/12
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No. But the takers of society out numbering the achievers does.
nlr...@verizon.net
Nov 7, 2012, 10:57:09 PM11/7/12
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7, 10:06 pm, Pindoc1 <bce6...@gmail.com> wrote:
your mind would disappear entirely. It's too bad we can't have a
political discussion without guys like you ranting and raving and
pointing fingers and hyperbolizing and over reacting and calling names
and claiming "truth" without ANY factual support of any kind. Saying
its so doesn't make it so. But you'll keep saying it until hell
freezes over or you're blue in the face.
I could show you a laundry list of facts and data supporting all these
"kool-aid infused lies" garnered by actual subject matter experts, not
the "mainstream media"or politicians - but you'll just say that it
doesn't prove anything because the non-partisan government agency that
ran the data is really part of a New World Order trying to take away
our guns. Or from the UN, that is secretly running the country. Or by
"liberal elitist" professors and economists - ESPECIALLY if they're
Nobel prize winners, because they're a bunch of commies. Or because
they support black, or Jewish agendas or whatever. You'll sit their in
your little world of conspiracy with your diploma from Glen Beck
University or the Institute of Advanced Conservative Studies and cite
passages from the protocols of Zion or other fake looney tune garbage
that point to the undermining of this great nation of ours by lazy
liberal, socialist godless takers like me.
Too bad too, because we both love pinball and are here mainly for that
reason.
nlr...@verizon.net
Nov 7, 2012, 11:06:37 PM11/7/12
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>
> --
> ballyparagon
Is there an echo?
ldnayman
Nov 7, 2012, 11:23:51 PM11/7/12
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On Nov 7, 10:40 pm, DRDAVE <drdavespinb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> No. But the takers of society out numbering the achievers does.
Like the Little Lebowski Urban Achievers?
> No. But the takers of society out numbering the achievers does.
What exactly does all that nonsense mean? What did Romney ever
achieve, besides being born rich, and then making even more money
producing nothing tangible except for dismantled companies?
MrMongo
Nov 7, 2012, 11:27:45 PM11/7/12
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DRDAVE;2017061 Wrote:
> Think on this for a moment:
>
> Hard working people who aspire for more for themselves and their
> families are officially - today and perpetually going forward - the
> minority. Those who resent or feel victimized by success and
> achievement are now and will continue to be the majority in the US.
>
> And the mainstream media, bolstered by its successful alliance with
> the new majority, will continue to fuel the self-perception that we
> are indeed victims and that anyone who has succeeded should not be
> admired, praised, or followed, but instead should be ridiculed,
> dishonored, attacked and – most importantly – made to pay compensation
> for having stolen, cheated, exploited, or taken advantage of an unfair
> playing field – for not having paid their fair share. The winners of
> this election publicly stated that any hard working owner of a
> successful business didn’t build it. They told us that success is
> built on the backs of others and on roads and bridges provided by
> government, without acknowledging that hard working, successful people
> bear the entire cost of government.
>
> only goes to show that the majority are now takers and the minority of
> people are achievers. Can't everyone see that this model or way of life
> is unsustainable? America in a matter of years will not be the desired
> and admired country it once was. We've just taken our first step
> towards 'Idiocracy'.
--
MrMongo
2003suz...@gmail.com
Nov 7, 2012, 11:28:58 PM11/7/12
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You must be Mensa to arrive at that!
2003suz...@gmail.com
Nov 7, 2012, 11:30:23 PM11/7/12
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punked
Nov 8, 2012, 12:55:18 AM11/8/12
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On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 3:07:17 PM UTC-8, metallik wrote:
My prediction is that Paul Ryan will be the president in 2016. Why? He is a smart man, and will deal with the issues instead of trying to shove
"GOD" down peoples throats...
"GOD" down peoples throats...
Aeneas - www.flippers.be
Nov 8, 2012, 3:41:22 AM11/8/12
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Stern also seems to do much better than 4 years ago.
Most LE runs are sold out before they even get produced or real photos are known. Stern even works on software for older released games.
There are more new collectors in this hobby, more demand for pinball machines, more new parts available.
The rights to make repro parts are back in the usa with Planetary Pinball and not in AU anymore.
I'd say things have improved in the last 4 years.
Won't comment more about that voting thing as it seems some people think only americans know anything about politics.
But it does sometimes feel like 2 guys argueing that either Bally or Williams had the best WPC games and the other brandname didn't make anything good.. :-)
Aeneas.
Most LE runs are sold out before they even get produced or real photos are known. Stern even works on software for older released games.
There are more new collectors in this hobby, more demand for pinball machines, more new parts available.
The rights to make repro parts are back in the usa with Planetary Pinball and not in AU anymore.
I'd say things have improved in the last 4 years.
Won't comment more about that voting thing as it seems some people think only americans know anything about politics.
But it does sometimes feel like 2 guys argueing that either Bally or Williams had the best WPC games and the other brandname didn't make anything good.. :-)
Aeneas.
wayout440
Nov 8, 2012, 6:50:34 AM11/8/12
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frenchmarky;2017034 Wrote:
> One exit poll showed that Obama took the no-college-degree vote over
> Romney by about 4 or 5 percent. Makes perfect sense. Most people are
> stupid, stupid people are easy to fool, want the easy way out, or don't
> give a shit.
Maybe SOME of them are stupid, but for many there is no better way to
alienate a massive swath of American citizenry than to cut funding for
loans and grants to students seeking to enroll in higher education and
in need of economic support to do so.
--
wayout440
pins...@gmail.com
Nov 8, 2012, 7:35:51 AM11/8/12
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Just told the boy yesterday, sorry, dad was wrong. Forget all A's in advanced classes, pulled him out of private academy, pulled him out of school period. Forget about college, waste of time and money. Go have multiple kids with every woman he meets, maybe he will get to live with them for a while, get a cell phone and money every month from the govt., don't ever apply for a job that doesn't pay enough or anything you do not want to do. Sue everbody you meet, you will win a couple dumb and frivolous lawsuits. Steal little stuff when you want to, you have more rights than the owner you are stealing from and if you are caught, you will get a slap on the wrist so you can do it again. No jail time. No taxes on income. Whine, moan, and complain every chance you get. Free healthcare, call 911 and use the ambulance for a free ride across town. Just easier and better to go on the dole, and he will be fine. Let the hard working people and small business owners pay all the taxes, and get as many entitlements as possible. Always say "It's not fair"' Be a taker, and not a giver. The future of our land as being laid out by our govt. Debt will be over 20 trillion in 4 years. Somebody will pay. Starting with us, soon. Thank you American Govt, and dumb-ass, lazy ass, Americans.
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Nov 8, 2012, 9:17:05 AM11/8/12
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On Nov 8, 7:35 am, pinsto...@gmail.com wrote:
> Just told the boy yesterday, sorry, dad was wrong. Forget all A's in advanced classes, pulled him out of private academy, pulled him out of school period. Forget about college, waste of time and money. Go have multiple kids with every woman he meets, maybe he will get to live with them for a while, get a cell phone and money every month from the govt., don't ever apply for a job that doesn't pay enough or anything you do not want to do. Sue everbody you meet, you will win a couple dumb and frivolous lawsuits. Steal little stuff when you want to, you have more rights than the owner you are stealing from and if you are caught, you will get a slap on the wrist so you can do it again. No jail time. No taxes on income. Whine, moan, and complain every chance you get. Free healthcare, call 911 and use the ambulance for a free ride across town. Just easier and better to go on the dole, and he will be fine. Let the hard working people and small business owners pay all the taxes, and get as many entitlements as possible. Always say "It's not fair"' Be a taker, and not a giver. The future of our land as being laid out by our govt. Debt will be over 20 trillion in 4 years. Somebody will pay. Starting with us, soon. Thank you American Govt, and dumb-ass, lazy ass, Americans.
Listen to yourself. The US has the highest incarceration rate in the
> Just told the boy yesterday, sorry, dad was wrong. Forget all A's in advanced classes, pulled him out of private academy, pulled him out of school period. Forget about college, waste of time and money. Go have multiple kids with every woman he meets, maybe he will get to live with them for a while, get a cell phone and money every month from the govt., don't ever apply for a job that doesn't pay enough or anything you do not want to do. Sue everbody you meet, you will win a couple dumb and frivolous lawsuits. Steal little stuff when you want to, you have more rights than the owner you are stealing from and if you are caught, you will get a slap on the wrist so you can do it again. No jail time. No taxes on income. Whine, moan, and complain every chance you get. Free healthcare, call 911 and use the ambulance for a free ride across town. Just easier and better to go on the dole, and he will be fine. Let the hard working people and small business owners pay all the taxes, and get as many entitlements as possible. Always say "It's not fair"' Be a taker, and not a giver. The future of our land as being laid out by our govt. Debt will be over 20 trillion in 4 years. Somebody will pay. Starting with us, soon. Thank you American Govt, and dumb-ass, lazy ass, Americans.
WORLD by an order of magnitude. That's but one reason state economies
are so screwed up, but it is a very real reason. Most of the inmates
are poor and black but if white collar crime and white collar drug use
was prosecuted like it is on the current prison population, the jails
would be even fuller. This is a huge problem in this country.
Where do you think 911 cones from? Is that some private corporation I
haven't heard of? I hear that's a growing business and I'd like to
invest. Oh wait, 911 is paid for by taxes, that's right. Well then
let's cut it then! Then when your boy calls it won't be there!
Healthcare free? More people will be paying private insurance
companies than ever before. Yay privatization!
Our "dole" is the smallest in the developed world. Hope you never have
to live off it.
Debt will go down dramatically when we stop invading other countries
so that private interests can rape their natural resources.
Where do people like you come from? Are we even living in the same
country? I don't think so, because you live in fantasy land, like most
republicans. An all white world where all the children are above
average.
Best quote I heard during the election: the republican convention
looked like a well dressed, hair sprayed clan meeting. The democratic
convention looked like America. Love it or leave it fucker.
ldnayman
Nov 8, 2012, 9:54:25 AM11/8/12
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>
> - Show quoted text -
I doubt it. He's one of those "foricble rape" guys. Women are tired of
having their utersus and vaginas bullied and controlled by the
Republican party. Someone like Ryan just brings all that crap to the
forefront.
Christie could be a good candidate - he's a "tell it like it is" guy
and everyone says they like that, and he's much closer to the center
on social issues than your average Republican nutbag, which is going
to be absolutely necessary going forward if the GOP doesn't want to
dissappear like the whigs. And he won lots of moderate-types over with
his handling of the storm, and putting his people before politics. If
he pissed off the gasbags on Fox News you know he was doing something
right. He might want to skip a meal here or there but I don't think
that's a deal breaker.
ldnayman
Nov 8, 2012, 9:56:32 AM11/8/12
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On Nov 8, 7:35 am, pinsto...@gmail.com wrote:
> Just told the boy yesterday, sorry, dad was wrong. Forget all A's in advanced classes, pulled him out of private academy, pulled him out of school period. Forget about college, waste of time and money. Go have multiple kids with every woman he meets, maybe he will get to live with them for a while, get a cell phone and money every month from the govt., don't ever apply for a job that doesn't pay enough or anything you do not want to do. Sue everbody you meet, you will win a couple dumb and frivolous lawsuits. Steal little stuff when you want to, you have more rights than the owner you are stealing from and if you are caught, you will get a slap on the wrist so you can do it again. No jail time. No taxes on income. Whine, moan, and complain every chance you get. Free healthcare, call 911 and use the ambulance for a free ride across town. Just easier and better to go on the dole, and he will be fine. Let the hard working people and small business owners pay all the taxes, and get as many entitlements as possible. Always say "It's not fair"' Be a taker, and not a giver. The future of our land as being laid out by our govt. Debt will be over 20 trillion in 4 years. Somebody will pay. Starting with us, soon. Thank you American Govt, and dumb-ass, lazy ass, Americans.
LOL
The right-wing meltdown is one of the funniest things I ever said.
Nice to see you copy everything from Fox News, right to the bitter
end. Everybody on Fox yesterday was telling some variation of the
above seeping vagina tale. "Oh, it's not our fault - not our fault
that our party has moved so far to the right that it's out of touch
with the country. Not our fault that ALL we have to offer is tax cuts
for the rich. It's AMERICA'S fault. America is lazy and not white
enough anymore. We are helpless!"
Suck it up you fucking crybaby.
ldnayman
Nov 8, 2012, 10:03:09 AM11/8/12
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On Nov 8, 9:56 am, nlr...@verizon.net wrote:
> Ryan as President? Oh boy. I can't wait to find out whats in his
> closet. He is too weird.- Hide quoted text -
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> Ryan as President? Oh boy. I can't wait to find out whats in his
> closet. He is too weird.- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -
Yeah..ever seen this stuff? And no, it ain't a photoshop:
> - Show quoted text -
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/181u5acpq4f8yjpg/original.jpg
TheFamilyArcade
Nov 8, 2012, 10:53:46 AM11/8/12
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picture with money literally coming out of peoples ears.
ldnayman
Nov 8, 2012, 10:57:34 AM11/8/12
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"right after that workout I'm gettting on my knees at the glory hole"
like a backwards baseball cap.
TheFamilyArcade
Nov 8, 2012, 11:15:08 AM11/8/12
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On Nov 8, 10:04 am, Gatecrasher <zjw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The Conservatives are largely to blame for the 47% of American who pay
> no taxes.
>
> In their seemingly endless zeal to slash taxes every election cycle,
> they have created so many deductions and loopholes that many Americans
> of all walks of life are no longer required to pay federal income tax.
>
> This goes across the board. Just look at Mitt Romney. He made over $24
> million dollars last year but was only required to pay less than 14%
> income tax.
>
> It didn't used to be that way (back when we had the deficit under
> control and America had some common sense).
>
> Every since the days of Ronald Reagan all we have been hearing from the
> GOP is how if we cut taxes on the rich, the money will just
> "trickle-down" to the rest of us and stimulate the economy.
>
> When George Bush took office in 2001 he inherited a $260 billion dollar
> budget surplus and a federal budget that had been balanced for almost 3
> years (something that hadn't happened since WWII). The first thing Dubya
> did was to slash taxes and promise Americans that this "trickle-down"
> philosphy was the road to success.
>
> Well, it didn't really work for Reagan and it sure as hell didn't work
> for Bush. Not one job has ever been created by cutting taxes on the
> wealthy.
>
> Zero!!
>
> So why would any American with an ounce of intelligence buy the BS
> Romney and the GOP are still trying to sell after decades of continuous
> failure?
>
> Wake-up wing nuts!!!
>
> Mitt Romney is a tax-dodger. A pretty unpatriotic one at that with
> Cayman Island tax shelters and Swiss bank accounts.
>
> Four years ago the IRS offered amnesty to any American individual who
> had underpaid their federal income taxes by using foreign banks to
> launder the money. Numerous multi-millionaires took advantage of this
> opportunity to avoid prosecution and at the same time lower the amount
> of back taxes owed.
>
> I think it's pretty-obvious that Mitt Romney was most-likely one of
> these individuals who received the amnesty package. That's why he
> refused to release his tax returns prior to last year. They would show
> the truth.
>
> Just because someone accepted an amnesty offer from the IRS doesn't
> change the fact that they acted illegally and are basically crooks who
> are now getting a second chance.
>
> I pay over twice as much in federal income taxes as a percentage of my
> income than Romney does and don't whine about it. So do most of us.
>
> Personally I'd rather pay a little more in taxes to have a healthy
> economy with a balanced budget like we did in the 90s. We were well on
> track to continue the trend into the next millenia until the GOP sold
> America on some more "trickle-down" bullshit.
>
> Here's a quote from George W. Bush in 2001; "My budget reduces the
> deficit fast...so fast the experts say that in a few years we will run
> out of debt to retire."
>
> Reality Check:
>
> George W. Bush doubled the deficit and never retired one cent of debt.
> in 8 years.
>
> Ronald Reagan doubled the deficit and never retired one cent of debt in
> 8 years.
>
> --
> Gatecrasher
>
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hear hear! Trickle down is "Voo-Doo Economics"...and that's according
to George Bush Sr. back in the days he was a moderate.
Taxes are a red herring. Back when the middle class was growing and
real wages were growing and GDP was booming we had the highest
progressive tax rates in our history. These taxes went into building
the infrastructure, and good schools, and a strong military and
ultimately into safety nets that virtually eliminated poverty among
the elderly and kept the poorest fed and housed, if not employed (very
near full employment during those years). Then the "haves" not the
"have nots" got greedy. Takers? Call me or someone on food stamps a
taker? How about CEO's, who pay used to average 18 times more than the
average worker but now averages over 200%. How about the Wall
Streeters who got the capital gains tax lowered and laws changed laws
to allow predatory lending and risk taking with OPM? And gut the
oversite agencies to the point that there wasn't anybody left to watch
all the stealing going on? How about corporations? Being taxed and
treated legally as individual citizens and allowing to bring
monopolistic practices back into the market driving out real
competition? And breaking the unions, so that only the executives can
have contracts but not workers. How about the super rich gutting the
estate tax and lowering their tax rate by 2/3s in less than 30 years?
How about the property owners in California? Who slashed property
taxes so they could create some of the worst public school systems in
the country and, ultimately, help drive the most vibrant economy in
the world into bankruptcy. How about the war mongers? They get the
military privatized and then rape the government for every dime they
can...under little to no oversite because that agency was gutted. And
the private prison corporations, delivering less service more
expensively than the states used to run things themselves. And private
healthcare, resulting in 20 cents off every dollar going to overhead
and administration. Medicare is about 3 cents.
And all during this time the top 1%of the country has increased their
share of the national wealth - not JUST the income! the WEALTH by
another 30% or so while the middle class hasn't seen real wages
increase in 40 years.
it is obvious who the TAKERS are. Look in the mirror...or better yet
stop pretending your rich or that one day you're going to wake up on
the set of Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous. because you're not.
You're going down, like everyone outside of the top 10% of the country
has been for the last 10 years and the better part of the last 40
years.
You're a puppet on a string. Dance Monkey! Dance! You've been
hoodwinked, bamboozled into thinking that the real working american in
this country are the problem. The takers are indeed the problem, but
you're pointing your finger in the wrong direction.
> The Conservatives are largely to blame for the 47% of American who pay
> no taxes.
>
> In their seemingly endless zeal to slash taxes every election cycle,
> they have created so many deductions and loopholes that many Americans
> of all walks of life are no longer required to pay federal income tax.
>
> This goes across the board. Just look at Mitt Romney. He made over $24
> million dollars last year but was only required to pay less than 14%
> income tax.
>
> It didn't used to be that way (back when we had the deficit under
> control and America had some common sense).
>
> Every since the days of Ronald Reagan all we have been hearing from the
> GOP is how if we cut taxes on the rich, the money will just
> "trickle-down" to the rest of us and stimulate the economy.
>
> When George Bush took office in 2001 he inherited a $260 billion dollar
> budget surplus and a federal budget that had been balanced for almost 3
> years (something that hadn't happened since WWII). The first thing Dubya
> did was to slash taxes and promise Americans that this "trickle-down"
> philosphy was the road to success.
>
> Well, it didn't really work for Reagan and it sure as hell didn't work
> for Bush. Not one job has ever been created by cutting taxes on the
> wealthy.
>
> Zero!!
>
> So why would any American with an ounce of intelligence buy the BS
> Romney and the GOP are still trying to sell after decades of continuous
> failure?
>
> Wake-up wing nuts!!!
>
> Mitt Romney is a tax-dodger. A pretty unpatriotic one at that with
> Cayman Island tax shelters and Swiss bank accounts.
>
> Four years ago the IRS offered amnesty to any American individual who
> had underpaid their federal income taxes by using foreign banks to
> launder the money. Numerous multi-millionaires took advantage of this
> opportunity to avoid prosecution and at the same time lower the amount
> of back taxes owed.
>
> I think it's pretty-obvious that Mitt Romney was most-likely one of
> these individuals who received the amnesty package. That's why he
> refused to release his tax returns prior to last year. They would show
> the truth.
>
> Just because someone accepted an amnesty offer from the IRS doesn't
> change the fact that they acted illegally and are basically crooks who
> are now getting a second chance.
>
> I pay over twice as much in federal income taxes as a percentage of my
> income than Romney does and don't whine about it. So do most of us.
>
> Personally I'd rather pay a little more in taxes to have a healthy
> economy with a balanced budget like we did in the 90s. We were well on
> track to continue the trend into the next millenia until the GOP sold
> America on some more "trickle-down" bullshit.
>
> Here's a quote from George W. Bush in 2001; "My budget reduces the
> deficit fast...so fast the experts say that in a few years we will run
> out of debt to retire."
>
> Reality Check:
>
> George W. Bush doubled the deficit and never retired one cent of debt.
> in 8 years.
>
> Ronald Reagan doubled the deficit and never retired one cent of debt in
> 8 years.
>
> --
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hear hear! Trickle down is "Voo-Doo Economics"...and that's according
to George Bush Sr. back in the days he was a moderate.
Taxes are a red herring. Back when the middle class was growing and
real wages were growing and GDP was booming we had the highest
progressive tax rates in our history. These taxes went into building
the infrastructure, and good schools, and a strong military and
ultimately into safety nets that virtually eliminated poverty among
the elderly and kept the poorest fed and housed, if not employed (very
near full employment during those years). Then the "haves" not the
"have nots" got greedy. Takers? Call me or someone on food stamps a
taker? How about CEO's, who pay used to average 18 times more than the
average worker but now averages over 200%. How about the Wall
Streeters who got the capital gains tax lowered and laws changed laws
to allow predatory lending and risk taking with OPM? And gut the
oversite agencies to the point that there wasn't anybody left to watch
all the stealing going on? How about corporations? Being taxed and
treated legally as individual citizens and allowing to bring
monopolistic practices back into the market driving out real
competition? And breaking the unions, so that only the executives can
have contracts but not workers. How about the super rich gutting the
estate tax and lowering their tax rate by 2/3s in less than 30 years?
How about the property owners in California? Who slashed property
taxes so they could create some of the worst public school systems in
the country and, ultimately, help drive the most vibrant economy in
the world into bankruptcy. How about the war mongers? They get the
military privatized and then rape the government for every dime they
can...under little to no oversite because that agency was gutted. And
the private prison corporations, delivering less service more
expensively than the states used to run things themselves. And private
healthcare, resulting in 20 cents off every dollar going to overhead
and administration. Medicare is about 3 cents.
And all during this time the top 1%of the country has increased their
share of the national wealth - not JUST the income! the WEALTH by
another 30% or so while the middle class hasn't seen real wages
increase in 40 years.
it is obvious who the TAKERS are. Look in the mirror...or better yet
stop pretending your rich or that one day you're going to wake up on
the set of Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous. because you're not.
You're going down, like everyone outside of the top 10% of the country
has been for the last 10 years and the better part of the last 40
years.
You're a puppet on a string. Dance Monkey! Dance! You've been
hoodwinked, bamboozled into thinking that the real working american in
this country are the problem. The takers are indeed the problem, but
you're pointing your finger in the wrong direction.
ballyparagon
Nov 8, 2012, 2:57:57 PM11/8/12
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The Family Arcade;2017205 Wrote:
> On Nov 8, 7:35*am, pinsto... (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:
> > Just told the boy yesterday, sorry, dad was wrong. Forget all A's in
> advanced classes, pulled him out of private academy, pulled him out of
> school period. *Forget about college, waste of time and money. Go have
> > Just told the boy yesterday, sorry, dad was wrong. Forget all A's in
> advanced classes, pulled him out of private academy, pulled him out of
> multiple kids with every woman he meets, maybe he will get to live with
> them for a while, get a cell phone and money every month from the govt.,
> don't ever apply for a job that doesn't pay enough or anything you do
> not want to do. Sue everbody you meet, you will win a couple dumb and
> frivolous lawsuits. Steal little stuff when you want to, you have more
> rights than the owner you are stealing from and if you are caught, you
> will get a slap on the wrist so you can do it again. No jail time. No
> taxes on income. Whine, moan, and complain every chance you get. Free
> healthcare, call 911 and use the ambulance for a free ride across town.
> Just easier and better to go on the dole, and he will be fine. *Let the
> them for a while, get a cell phone and money every month from the govt.,
> don't ever apply for a job that doesn't pay enough or anything you do
> not want to do. Sue everbody you meet, you will win a couple dumb and
> frivolous lawsuits. Steal little stuff when you want to, you have more
> rights than the owner you are stealing from and if you are caught, you
> will get a slap on the wrist so you can do it again. No jail time. No
> taxes on income. Whine, moan, and complain every chance you get. Free
> healthcare, call 911 and use the ambulance for a free ride across town.
fucker" ! Your vision is like X-ray superman stuff! Take that! Hair
spray clan!
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ballyparagon
Nov 8, 2012, 3:01:43 PM11/8/12
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TheFamilyArcade;2017251 Wrote:
conservatives! Family arcade is gonna sock it to you feeble minded
takers!
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ballyparagon
Nov 8, 2012, 3:04:36 PM11/8/12
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ldnayman;2017220 Wrote:
> On Nov 8, 7:35*am, pinsto... (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:
> > Just told the boy yesterday, sorry, dad was wrong. Forget all A's in
> advanced classes, pulled him out of private academy, pulled him out of
> school period. *Forget about college, waste of time and money. Go have
> > Just told the boy yesterday, sorry, dad was wrong. Forget all A's in
> advanced classes, pulled him out of private academy, pulled him out of
> multiple kids with every woman he meets, maybe he will get to live with
> them for a while, get a cell phone and money every month from the govt.,
> don't ever apply for a job that doesn't pay enough or anything you do
> not want to do. Sue everbody you meet, you will win a couple dumb and
> frivolous lawsuits. Steal little stuff when you want to, you have more
> rights than the owner you are stealing from and if you are caught, you
> will get a slap on the wrist so you can do it again. No jail time. No
> taxes on income. Whine, moan, and complain every chance you get. Free
> healthcare, call 911 and use the ambulance for a free ride across town.
> Just easier and better to go on the dole, and he will be fine. *Let the
> them for a while, get a cell phone and money every month from the govt.,
> don't ever apply for a job that doesn't pay enough or anything you do
> not want to do. Sue everbody you meet, you will win a couple dumb and
> frivolous lawsuits. Steal little stuff when you want to, you have more
> rights than the owner you are stealing from and if you are caught, you
> will get a slap on the wrist so you can do it again. No jail time. No
> taxes on income. Whine, moan, and complain every chance you get. Free
> healthcare, call 911 and use the ambulance for a free ride across town.
> hard working people and small business owners pay all the taxes, and get
> as many entitlements as possible. Always say "It's not fair"' Be a
> taker, and not a giver. The future of our land as being laid out by our
> govt. Debt will be over 20 trillion in 4 years. Somebody will pay.
> Starting with us, soon. Thank you American Govt, and dumb-ass, lazy ass,
> Americans.
>
>
> LOL
>
> The right-wing meltdown is one of the funniest things I ever said.
> Nice to see you copy everything from Fox News, right to the bitter
> end. Everybody on Fox yesterday was telling some variation of the
> above seeping vagina tale. "Oh, it's not our fault - not our fault
> that our party has moved so far to the right that it's out of touch
> with the country. Not our fault that ALL we have to offer is tax cuts
> for the rich. It's AMERICA'S fault. America is lazy and not white
> enough anymore. We are helpless!"
>
> Suck it up you fucking crybaby.
Yeah! Lets get big boxes of tissues! Wahh, Wahhh! I'm voting on the
> as many entitlements as possible. Always say "It's not fair"' Be a
> taker, and not a giver. The future of our land as being laid out by our
> govt. Debt will be over 20 trillion in 4 years. Somebody will pay.
> Starting with us, soon. Thank you American Govt, and dumb-ass, lazy ass,
> Americans.
>
>
> LOL
>
> The right-wing meltdown is one of the funniest things I ever said.
> Nice to see you copy everything from Fox News, right to the bitter
> end. Everybody on Fox yesterday was telling some variation of the
> above seeping vagina tale. "Oh, it's not our fault - not our fault
> that our party has moved so far to the right that it's out of touch
> with the country. Not our fault that ALL we have to offer is tax cuts
> for the rich. It's AMERICA'S fault. America is lazy and not white
> enough anymore. We are helpless!"
>
> Suck it up you fucking crybaby.
family and Indy ticket!
Gatecrasher
Nov 8, 2012, 3:11:12 PM11/8/12
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One thing that was missing from the Republican Convention this year were
the flip-flop props.
Remember the 2004 GOP convention when John Kerry ran against Bush?
The entire line of attack on Kerry was that he was a flip-flopper.
There was no way the Repugs were going to allow a freakin' flip-flopper
to win the election.
They even handed-out flip-flops for everyone to clap and chant
"flip-flop, flip-flop, flip-flop" like a glassy-eyed religious cult.
Remember?
lol
I wonder why they didn't re-use all those flip-flops this year?
After all, Mitt Romney makes Kerry look like an amateur as far as
flip-flopping goes.
Romney has taken flip-flopping to an entire new level which happens when
you basically change your stance on everything!
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ldnayman
Nov 8, 2012, 3:17:22 PM11/8/12
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On Nov 8, 3:12 pm, Gatecrasher <zjw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> One thing that was missing from the Republican Convention this year were
> the flip-flop props.
>
> Remember the 2004 GOP convention when John Kerry ran against Bush?
>
> The entire line of attack on Kerry was that he was a flip-flopper.
>
> There was no way the Repugs were going to allow a freakin' flip-flopper
> to win the election.
>
> They even handed-out flip-flops for everyone to clap and chant
> "flip-flop, flip-flop, flip-flop" like a glassy-eyed religious cult.
>
> Remember?
>
> lol
>
> I wonder why they didn't re-use all those flip-flops this year?
>
> After all, Mitt Romney makes Kerry look like an amateur as far as
> flip-flopping goes.
>
> Romney has taken flip-flopping to an entire new level which happens when
> you basically change your stance on everything!
>
> --
> Gatecrasher
That was an Interesting analysis.
> One thing that was missing from the Republican Convention this year were
> the flip-flop props.
>
> Remember the 2004 GOP convention when John Kerry ran against Bush?
>
> The entire line of attack on Kerry was that he was a flip-flopper.
>
> There was no way the Repugs were going to allow a freakin' flip-flopper
> to win the election.
>
> They even handed-out flip-flops for everyone to clap and chant
> "flip-flop, flip-flop, flip-flop" like a glassy-eyed religious cult.
>
> Remember?
>
> lol
>
> I wonder why they didn't re-use all those flip-flops this year?
>
> After all, Mitt Romney makes Kerry look like an amateur as far as
> flip-flopping goes.
>
> Romney has taken flip-flopping to an entire new level which happens when
> you basically change your stance on everything!
>
> --
> Gatecrasher
Now, here's 7 pages of white people looking crushed and miserable on
election night:
http://whitepeoplemourningromney.tumblr.com/
ballyparagon
Nov 8, 2012, 3:17:55 PM11/8/12
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together with the Family Arcade / Indyman. Stop... No, wait! Your heads
would all explode from the cumulative knowledge. Let's keep this a
secret from these idiot conservative/ republicans. We will use it
later, when they try to sneak back in. Rock on comrade!
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Pin-Junk
Nov 8, 2012, 3:21:06 PM11/8/12
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On Tuesday, November 6, 2012 11:22:21 PM UTC-5, metallik wrote:
> CNN just called Ohio for Obama. Seems a bit early, but if it holds
>
> up, Romney's done.
Well the majority got what they wished for but I wonder how many of you actually realize what you got.
Obamacare is going to tax the value of your employer provided health care - so if you an average family with health insurance cost of about $10,000 a year for your employer your income tax will go up about $3000 a year. No one has talked about this and I really don't understand why?
Fuel , electric, natural gas and heating oil will "necessarily" increase to fund green energy programs (this is in Obama's own words if you listen to what he has said all along).
Printing money will cause inflation so food prices & everything thing else will go up. We have all already been seeing this. Plus any money you have in savings, IRA, etc will be worth less because of inflation. (Unless you have something like gold)
Taxing the rich isn't going to hurt the rich - they will just charge more for products you buy from them or services they provide so the little guys still pays in the end. Most of the rich have gotten their money buy owning businesses or still running businesses. They will never pay more they just pass increased cost along in the cost of good they sell.
And I could go on for ever if I wanted to. With all the said I am a registered democrat and I don't blame either party - I blame both of them.
Bottom line - Spending more than you are taking in doesn't work and will not end well. Giving away "free stuff" to 47% of the population doesn't work - people have to work not wait for government handouts. Stuff like Social Security isn't government handout - that is us getting our money back that was paid into the system. But some of the other government programs have to be cut, we need less government waste, less government employees, and elected people to do their job or be replaced.
Problem is - 4 more years of the same isn't going to fix anything. I really wish something had changed but now we have what we have. Just remember now we will all have about 20% less in 4 years than we have today. Thanks to everyone in the majority!
> CNN just called Ohio for Obama. Seems a bit early, but if it holds
>
> up, Romney's done.
Well the majority got what they wished for but I wonder how many of you actually realize what you got.
Obamacare is going to tax the value of your employer provided health care - so if you an average family with health insurance cost of about $10,000 a year for your employer your income tax will go up about $3000 a year. No one has talked about this and I really don't understand why?
Fuel , electric, natural gas and heating oil will "necessarily" increase to fund green energy programs (this is in Obama's own words if you listen to what he has said all along).
Printing money will cause inflation so food prices & everything thing else will go up. We have all already been seeing this. Plus any money you have in savings, IRA, etc will be worth less because of inflation. (Unless you have something like gold)
Taxing the rich isn't going to hurt the rich - they will just charge more for products you buy from them or services they provide so the little guys still pays in the end. Most of the rich have gotten their money buy owning businesses or still running businesses. They will never pay more they just pass increased cost along in the cost of good they sell.
And I could go on for ever if I wanted to. With all the said I am a registered democrat and I don't blame either party - I blame both of them.
Bottom line - Spending more than you are taking in doesn't work and will not end well. Giving away "free stuff" to 47% of the population doesn't work - people have to work not wait for government handouts. Stuff like Social Security isn't government handout - that is us getting our money back that was paid into the system. But some of the other government programs have to be cut, we need less government waste, less government employees, and elected people to do their job or be replaced.
Problem is - 4 more years of the same isn't going to fix anything. I really wish something had changed but now we have what we have. Just remember now we will all have about 20% less in 4 years than we have today. Thanks to everyone in the majority!
ballyparagon
Nov 8, 2012, 3:27:21 PM11/8/12
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ldnayman;2017360 Wrote:
man down! You know, kick them when they are down! That keeps them from
thinking we are too intelligent. Kick them with flip flops!
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TheFamilyArcade
Nov 8, 2012, 3:52:21 PM11/8/12
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TheFamilyArcade
Nov 8, 2012, 3:53:52 PM11/8/12
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life, I know. keep dancing little monkey. and grind that organ for
your big republican daddy.
John In WI
Nov 8, 2012, 3:56:37 PM11/8/12
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TheFamilyArcade
Nov 8, 2012, 4:01:18 PM11/8/12
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all our powerful and brilliant ideas coming together at once would
form a beautiful rainbow bridge, that all of us, liberals, democrats,
moderates, republicans, and even the tea bagger sociopaths could walk
across together into a brighter future, holding hands and singing
songs.
Royal Guard
Nov 8, 2012, 4:32:42 PM11/8/12
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Thats rich wingnuts!!
You say you pay more in taxes than Romney, you don't. You may be taxed
at a higher rate but hey 14% of 24 million is a lot more than what 28%
of 40k isn't it.
Anyway you look at it your gonna have 4 more years of Obamas socialist
agenda and I guess thats what people want now. They interviewed someone
on the local tv news that was an obvious Romney supporter and she said
she thinks this is the entitlement generation. Maybe I'll quit my job
and go on welfare. Hail Obama!!
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TheFamilyArcade
Nov 8, 2012, 4:54:47 PM11/8/12
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Gatecrasher
Nov 8, 2012, 5:02:14 PM11/8/12
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Royal Guard;2017398 Wrote:
> Ha Ha!!
> Thats rich wingnuts!!
> You say you pay more in taxes than Romney, you don't. You may be taxed
> at a higher rate but hey 14% of 24 million is a lot more than what 28%
> of 40k isn't it.
> Anyway you look at it your gonna have 4 more years of Obamas socialist
> agenda and I guess thats what people want now. They interviewed someone
> on the local tv news that was an obvious Romney supporter and she said
> she thinks this is the entitlement generation. Maybe I'll quit my job
> and go on welfare. Hail Obama!!
like Romney does.
What part of your Faux News manipulated brain is incapable of
comprehending the elementary school level math involved?
I pay close to 30%.....and yes, I am a member of the 53% that do pay
taxes and I voted for the president.
The blind racial hatred the conservatives have for the president trumped
everything this election.
The so-called "Christian Right" was even willing to elect the nation's
first non-Christian president over the current Christian president
because of their hatred of black people.
What's really funny is according to several polls, the majority of
conservative voters polled (Faux News Viewers) thought Romney was a
Christian.
The "Christian Right" was poised to blindly elect a non-Christian
president so he could protect their precious Judeo-Christian values from
the current Christian president who they claim is a Muslim.
If that doesn't take the cake!
lol
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Royal Guard
Nov 8, 2012, 6:07:31 PM11/8/12
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Gatecrasher;2017410 Wrote:
> I do pay more of my hard-earned money in taxes than a tax-dodging crook
> like Romney does.
>
> What part of your Faux News manipulated brain is incapable of
> comprehending the elementary school level math involved?
>
> I pay close to 30%.....and yes, I am a member of the 53% that do pay
> taxes and I voted for the president.
>
> The blind racial hatred the conservatives have for the president trumped
> everything this election.
>
> The so-called "Christian Right" was even willing to elect the nation's
> first non-Christian president over the current Christian president
> because of their hatred of black people.
>
> What's really funny is according to several polls, the majority of
> conservative voters polled (Faux News Viewers) thought Romney was a
> Christian.
>
> The "Christian Right" was poised to blindly elect a non-Christian
> president so he could protect their precious Judeo-Christian values from
> the current Christian president who they claim is a Muslim.
>
> If that doesn't take the cake!
>
> lol
million $336,000? And your saying you pay more than that in taxes? Well
dude, I guess your as rich as Mitt!! And FYI I am also part of the 53%
and pay my taxes also.
Why is it whenever someone votes against Obama you say they are racist?
You voted for Obama, do you hate whites? Sounds silly doesn't it.
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jhanley
Nov 8, 2012, 6:37:25 PM11/8/12
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Royal Guard;2017427 Wrote:
> Please correct my elementary math if I'm wrong but isn't 14% of 24
> million $336,000? And your saying you pay more than that in taxes? Well
> dude, I guess your as rich as Mitt!! And FYI I am also part of the 53%
> and pay my taxes also.
> Why is it whenever someone votes against Obama you say they are racist?
> You voted for Obama, do you hate whites? Sounds silly doesn't it.
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DRDAVE
Nov 8, 2012, 6:39:07 PM11/8/12
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Notice how liberals ALWAYS are the ones that bring up RACE?
How about content of character as it's a better measure of a
person....
How about content of character as it's a better measure of a
person....
Gatecrasher
Nov 8, 2012, 7:37:00 PM11/8/12
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jhanley;2017438 Wrote:
> I believe he meant percentage wise.
understand.
Believe me, I miss that 30% more than Romney misses his 14%.
According to Royal Guard, multi-millionaire elitists like Romney should
pay less as a percentage than the rest of us.
After all, they deserve it. Thay are superior to us. :rolleyes:
Middle class Americans are only worried about being able to support our
families and have some sort of retirement.
Mitt on the other hand is worried about how many elevators for his cars
he can install in one of his west coast mansions.
The one thing I couldn't understand was how Mitt Romney can legally have
an IRA worth over $100 million dollars as was reported?
I found that a little hard to understand since the current limit is
$17,000 per year.
At $17,000 per year that would take 5,882 years for a "normal" American
to accumulate.
Yeah, I think Mitt is definitely over-taxed.
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Gatecrasher
Nov 8, 2012, 7:53:20 PM11/8/12
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Royal Guard;2017427 Wrote:
> Please correct my elementary math if I'm wrong but isn't 14% of 24
> million $336,000? And your saying you pay more than that in taxes? Well
> dude, I guess your as rich as Mitt!! And FYI I am also part of the 53%
> and pay my taxes also.
> Why is it whenever someone votes against Obama you say they are racist?
> You voted for Obama, do you hate whites? Sounds silly doesn't it.
You got it wrong just like I knew you would.
lol!
By the way I don't hate whites. I am white.
I hate dishonesty. And if you think millionaires should pay less as a
percentage than middle class Americans, then you are either the dumbest
MF on the planet or being dishonest.
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Nov 8, 2012, 8:00:29 PM11/8/12
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:-)
ballyparagon
Nov 8, 2012, 8:44:31 PM11/8/12
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TheFamilyArcade;2017386 Wrote:
> On Nov 8, 3:18*pm, ballyparagon <ballypara... (AT) gmail (DOT) com>
> > later, when they try to sneak back in. Rock on comrade!
> >
> > --
> > ballyparagon
> > This USENET post sent from *http://rgparchive.com
> >
> > --
> > ballyparagon
>
> actually, not a bad idea. rather than explode, however, the alchemy of
> all our powerful and brilliant ideas coming together at once would
> form a beautiful rainbow bridge, that all of us, liberals, democrats,
> moderates, republicans, and even the tea bagger sociopaths could walk
> across together into a brighter future, holding hands and singing
> songs.
Wow! Another out of the ball park! Hold on bro, I need to go get my
> actually, not a bad idea. rather than explode, however, the alchemy of
> all our powerful and brilliant ideas coming together at once would
> form a beautiful rainbow bridge, that all of us, liberals, democrats,
> moderates, republicans, and even the tea bagger sociopaths could walk
> across together into a brighter future, holding hands and singing
> songs.
bong!
ballyparagon
Nov 8, 2012, 8:47:27 PM11/8/12
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Gatecrasher;2017410 Wrote:
> I do pay more of my hard-earned money in taxes than a tax-dodging crook
> like Romney does.
>
> What part of your Faux News manipulated brain is incapable of
> comprehending the elementary school level math involved?
>
> I pay close to 30%.....and yes, I am a member of the 53% that do pay
> taxes and I voted for the president.
>
> The blind racial hatred the conservatives have for the president trumped
> everything this election.
>
> The so-called "Christian Right" was even willing to elect the nation's
> first non-Christian president over the current Christian president
> because of their hatred of black people.
>
> What's really funny is according to several polls, the majority of
> conservative voters polled (Faux News Viewers) thought Romney was a
> Christian.
>
> The "Christian Right" was poised to blindly elect a non-Christian
> president so he could protect their precious Judeo-Christian values from
> the current Christian president who they claim is a Muslim.
>
> If that doesn't take the cake!
>
> lol
--
ballyparagon
ballyparagon
Nov 8, 2012, 8:50:14 PM11/8/12
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Gatecrasher;2017474 Wrote:
> Alright I'll correct your math.
>
> You got it wrong just like I knew you would.
>
> lol!
>
> By the way I don't hate whites. I am white.
>
> I hate dishonesty. And if you think millionaires should pay less as a
Whoa! I thought you were ....never mind.
--
ballyparagon
ballyparagon
Nov 8, 2012, 8:51:50 PM11/8/12
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ldnayman;2017476 Wrote:
> On Nov 8, 6:39*pm, DRDAVE <drdavespinb... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
> > Notice how liberals ALWAYS are the ones that bring up RACE?
> >
> > How about content of character as it's a better measure of a
> > person....
> >
> > On Nov 8, 3:17*pm, ldnayman <ldnay... (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote:
> >
> > Now, here's 7 pages of white people looking crushed and miserable on
> > *election night:
> > Notice how liberals ALWAYS are the ones that bring up RACE?
> >
> > How about content of character as it's a better measure of a
> > person....
> >
> > On Nov 8, 3:17*pm, ldnayman <ldnay... (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote:
> >
> > Now, here's 7 pages of white people looking crushed and miserable on
> >
> > http://whitepeoplemourningromney.tumblr.com/
>
>
>
>
>
> Ever notice how miserable all the white people on that web site look?
> :-)
That's awesome! I love when the other side looks sad! Makes me feel
> > http://whitepeoplemourningromney.tumblr.com/
>
>
>
>
>
> Ever notice how miserable all the white people on that web site look?
> :-)
superior!
--
ballyparagon
DRDAVE
Nov 8, 2012, 9:29:03 PM11/8/12
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Sadly, about half the country now consists of irresponsible adult
children -- and they just chose the parent who gives them candy and
cookies for dinner, doesn't make them do their homework or chores,
lets them stay up past midnight, and then doesn't make them get up to
go to school. How this fact makes any thinking person happy is beyond
me....
children -- and they just chose the parent who gives them candy and
cookies for dinner, doesn't make them do their homework or chores,
lets them stay up past midnight, and then doesn't make them get up to
go to school. How this fact makes any thinking person happy is beyond
me....
AlexF
Nov 8, 2012, 9:41:23 PM11/8/12
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If you rob Peter to pay Paul, you can always depend on the support of
Paul.
--
AlexF
Jim McCune (honda350r)
Nov 8, 2012, 9:44:57 PM11/8/12
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This guy took the loss harder than most .
http://www.libertarianrepublican.net/2012/11/the-end-of-liberty-in-america-only.html
http://www.libertarianrepublican.net/2012/11/the-end-of-liberty-in-america-only.html
Gatecrasher
Nov 8, 2012, 11:46:55 PM11/8/12
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Jim McCune (honda350r);2017520 Wrote:
> This guy took the loss harder than most .
>
That is freakin' hilarious man!!
lol
--
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Frank Furhter
Nov 9, 2012, 12:26:46 AM11/9/12
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metallik wrote:
>
>> Write whatever you want. All that crap you are spouting is untrue. I
>> did not even bother reading half of it.
>
> You just perfectly summarized radical conservative "thinking" ...
>
> "Whatever you say isn't true, even if I don't know what you just
> said."
>
> If your mind was any more closed, it'd implode upon itself in a puff
> of dislogic.
>
> Laughable :)
>
I love this topic, because the dumb ass Americans are thinking just like
the Dumb Ass English/British did after WWII and their 60's revolution
punk ass kids. Welcome to a maturing America where the growth no longer
meets the promise, and the people can't accept their plight.
--
The Frankster, a playfield prankster
Once upon my crank her ballpark shrank.
http://PinWiki.net, Prep-H 4 pinballers.
CARGPB #42 (Its free to join, sign up now!)
>
>> Write whatever you want. All that crap you are spouting is untrue. I
>> did not even bother reading half of it.
>
> You just perfectly summarized radical conservative "thinking" ...
>
> "Whatever you say isn't true, even if I don't know what you just
> said."
>
> If your mind was any more closed, it'd implode upon itself in a puff
> of dislogic.
>
> Laughable :)
>
I love this topic, because the dumb ass Americans are thinking just like
the Dumb Ass English/British did after WWII and their 60's revolution
punk ass kids. Welcome to a maturing America where the growth no longer
meets the promise, and the people can't accept their plight.
--
The Frankster, a playfield prankster
Once upon my crank her ballpark shrank.
http://PinWiki.net, Prep-H 4 pinballers.
CARGPB #42 (Its free to join, sign up now!)
nlr...@verizon.net
Nov 9, 2012, 9:39:04 AM11/9/12
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On Nov 8, 6:08 pm, Royal Guard <hgale...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Gatecrasher;2017410 Wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > I do pay more of my hard-earned money in taxes than a tax-dodging crook
> > like Romney does.
>
> > What part of your Faux News manipulated brain is incapable of
> > comprehending the elementary school level math involved?
>
> > I pay close to 30%.....and yes, I am a member of the 53% that do pay
> > taxes and I voted for the president.
>
> > The blind racial hatred the conservatives have for the president trumped
> > everything this election.
>
> > The so-called "Christian Right" was even willing to elect the nation's
> > first non-Christian president over the current Christian president
> > because of their hatred of black people.
>
> > What's really funny is according to several polls, the majority of
> > conservative voters polled (Faux News Viewers) thought Romney was a
> > Christian.
>
> > The "Christian Right" was poised to blindly elect a non-Christian
> > president so he could protect their precious Judeo-Christian values from
> > the current Christian president who they claim is a Muslim.
>
> > If that doesn't take the cake!
>
> > lol
>
> Please correct my elementary math if I'm wrong but isn't 14% of 24
> million $336,000? And your saying you pay more than that in taxes? Well
> dude, I guess your as rich as Mitt!! And FYI I am also part of the 53%
> Andean about 5 pay my taxes also.
> Gatecrasher;2017410 Wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > I do pay more of my hard-earned money in taxes than a tax-dodging crook
> > like Romney does.
>
> > What part of your Faux News manipulated brain is incapable of
> > comprehending the elementary school level math involved?
>
> > I pay close to 30%.....and yes, I am a member of the 53% that do pay
> > taxes and I voted for the president.
>
> > The blind racial hatred the conservatives have for the president trumped
> > everything this election.
>
> > The so-called "Christian Right" was even willing to elect the nation's
> > first non-Christian president over the current Christian president
> > because of their hatred of black people.
>
> > What's really funny is according to several polls, the majority of
> > conservative voters polled (Faux News Viewers) thought Romney was a
> > Christian.
>
> > The "Christian Right" was poised to blindly elect a non-Christian
> > president so he could protect their precious Judeo-Christian values from
> > the current Christian president who they claim is a Muslim.
>
> > If that doesn't take the cake!
>
> > lol
>
> Please correct my elementary math if I'm wrong but isn't 14% of 24
> million $336,000? And your saying you pay more than that in taxes? Well
> dude, I guess your as rich as Mitt!! And FYI I am also part of the 53%
Mar> Why is it whenever someone votes against Obama you say they are
racist?
You voted for Obama, do you hate whites? Sounds silly doesn't it.
>
> --
> Royal Guard
> This USENET post sent from http://rgparchive.com
There is statistical evidence that racism was prevalent in Obamas 2008
You voted for Obama, do you hate whites? Sounds silly doesn't it.
>
> --
> Royal Guard
> This USENET post sent from http://rgparchive.com
win and no reason to think it doesn't exist now. Do you know that in
the states where racist related google searches are the highest Obamas
margin of the vote was about 5% lower than in all other states ...
where his % of the vote was strikingly consistent? If you don't think
racism plays a part in all this Obama bashing you're deluded. Doesn't
mean you're a racist, but there are still plenty in this country, and
its pathetic.
nlr...@verizon.net
Nov 9, 2012, 9:40:14 AM11/9/12
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On Nov 8, 6:39 pm, DRDAVE <drdavespinb...@gmail.com> wrote:
subject. Moron. Who the hell else is going to bring it up?
nlr...@verizon.net
Nov 9, 2012, 9:45:06 AM11/9/12
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they can pretty much handle their weed. They get silly, but hardly
certifiable. You are a crank. A sociopath. A delusional one trick
pony. You're starting to bore me. And im sure your head is starting to
hurt with all this "outperformance" your doing coming up with
fantastically ordinary posts. Contribute something to the thread
besides defensive sophomoric sarcasm or crawl back under your rock.
nlr...@verizon.net
Nov 9, 2012, 9:47:01 AM11/9/12
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On Nov 8, 8:52 pm, ballyparagon <ballypara...@gmail.com> wrote:
in Taiwan".
nlr...@verizon.net
Nov 9, 2012, 9:50:39 AM11/9/12
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brainwashed puppet on a string. You haven't had your own voice since
the creation of the FOX network.
ldnayman
Nov 9, 2012, 9:50:47 AM11/9/12
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>
> - Show quoted text -
Sadly I think this thread has run out of steam. We shall revisit in
2014, when doubtlessly the Republicans pick up a few seats in the
Senate and suddenly think they have a mandate and that surely the tide
has turned (like that worked out so well after 2010 LOL), or when
Jimmy Carter dies and people like Gruenk come in here to engage in
complete douchebaggery "victory dances" like they did when Ted Kennedy
croaked.
Until then I suppose it will be pretty quiet, which is just great. WE
aren't the ones who spent the entire period of 2008-2010 turning RGP
into some kind of a low rent "Fox and Friends."
Besides, maybe the RGP Log Cabins are so battered and bruised by the
complete and total rebuke of their ideals by this country this week
that they'll learn not to take EVERY minor right-wing victory over the
next couple years as a sign that America is now on board with their
obsolete thinking.
Goodnight America, we love you!
nlr...@verizon.net
Nov 9, 2012, 9:52:39 AM11/9/12
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gut level patriotism and religious zeal to vote against their own
interests in support of the rich. Much much worse.
nlr...@verizon.net
Nov 9, 2012, 9:54:44 AM11/9/12
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On Nov 8, 9:44 pm, "Jim McCune (honda350r)" <honda3...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Exactly. That's the America guys like this want to live in. This is
the most Anti-American, Anti-Christian posture possible. What a clown.
wrote:
> This guy took the loss harder than most .
>
> http://www.libertarianrepublican.net/2012/11/the-end-of-liberty-in-am...
>
Exactly. That's the America guys like this want to live in. This is
the most Anti-American, Anti-Christian posture possible. What a clown.
nlr...@verizon.net
Nov 9, 2012, 10:03:02 AM11/9/12
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now because austerity measures don't work! The reason our economy is
actually on the rebound is because of the stimulus.
And the only reason the growth doesn't meet the promise is because the
promise was broken with deregulation and regressive taxation 30 years
ago, creating a disparate economy that so unfairly favors the rich.
If you did your homework you'd know this. But no one does their
homework anymore. They just want to get drunk and watch football and
play pinball and go to Disneyland. They know the issues but not the
reason WHY there ARE these issues. You are right about one thing Frank
or Todd, that people are ignorant and get what they deserve. In this
case, most of the people I'm arguing with in this thread are going to
see an improvement in their lives because their candidate lost! Ironic.
nlr...@verizon.net
Nov 9, 2012, 10:05:18 AM11/9/12
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Well, if you're turning in so am I. I couldn't take being the only
voice of reason here!
ldnayman
Nov 9, 2012, 10:10:42 AM11/9/12
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On Nov 9, 10:03 am, nlr...@verizon.net wrote:
They just want to get drunk and watch football and
> play pinball and go to Disneyland.
I'm trying to figure out something wrong with any of these things and
They just want to get drunk and watch football and
> play pinball and go to Disneyland.
having trouble.
kismetnumber1
Nov 9, 2012, 10:25:42 AM11/9/12
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Well... it's a good thing Obama did get re-elected. Now maybe some of you guys can get jobs making wind turbines, stop leeching off the public dole, and find something better to do than post this crap on the Pinball forums.
Get a life....
Get a life....
ldnayman
Nov 9, 2012, 10:35:28 AM11/9/12
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On Nov 9, 10:25 am, kismetnumber1 <kismetnumb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well... it's a good thing Obama did get re-elected. Now maybe some of you guys can get jobs making wind turbines, stop leeching off the public dole, and find something better to do than post this crap on the Pinball forums.
Congrats!
> Well... it's a good thing Obama did get re-elected. Now maybe some of you guys can get jobs making wind turbines, stop leeching off the public dole, and find something better to do than post this crap on the Pinball forums.
You are the ONE MILLIONTH butthurt Repubican to write a variation of
that sentence since the nation told you to go fuck yourself on
Tuesday!
What does he win bob?
A bunch of canceled Mitt Romney campaign credit cards!
ballyparagon
Nov 9, 2012, 1:28:08 PM11/9/12
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The Family Arcade;2017651 Wrote:
> On Nov 8, 8:46*pm, ballyparagon <ballypara... (AT) gmail (DOT) com>
>
> No bro. I think you should put it down. I know alot of potheads, and
> they can pretty much handle their weed. They get silly, but hardly
> certifiable. You are a crank. A sociopath. A delusional one trick
> pony. You're starting to bore me. And im sure your head is starting to
> hurt with all this "outperformance" your doing coming up with
> fantastically ordinary posts. Contribute something to the thread
> besides defensive sophomoric sarcasm or crawl back under your rock.
Ummm, ok. Sorry, your mad.
> No bro. I think you should put it down. I know alot of potheads, and
> they can pretty much handle their weed. They get silly, but hardly
> certifiable. You are a crank. A sociopath. A delusional one trick
> pony. You're starting to bore me. And im sure your head is starting to
> hurt with all this "outperformance" your doing coming up with
> fantastically ordinary posts. Contribute something to the thread
> besides defensive sophomoric sarcasm or crawl back under your rock.
Rare Hero
Nov 9, 2012, 3:08:53 PM11/9/12
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On Nov 9, 7:05 am, nlr...@verizon.net wrote:
> Well, if you're turning in so am I. I couldn't take being the only
> voice of reason here!
You're doing a great job! I'm enjoying it immensely! GO REALITY! :)
> Well, if you're turning in so am I. I couldn't take being the only
> voice of reason here!
Greg
ldnayman
Nov 9, 2012, 3:37:18 PM11/9/12
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Still, you should google "obama" on RGP, before you decide you surely
don't want to do some gloating.
Rare Hero
Nov 9, 2012, 3:54:08 PM11/9/12
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On Nov 9, 12:37 pm, ldnayman <ldnay...@aol.com> wrote:
> You've exercised considerable restraint, Greg, and I'm proud of you.
>
> Still, you should google "obama" on RGP, before you decide you surely
> don't want to do some gloating.
You guys are doing a fine job! I really have nothing else to add.
> You've exercised considerable restraint, Greg, and I'm proud of you.
>
> Still, you should google "obama" on RGP, before you decide you surely
> don't want to do some gloating.
The country rejected lies, fear, and propaganda...and embraced facts,
reality, and empathy. That speaks for itself.
If the righties can't look outside their bubble and reflect....to
truly see what happened here, they're doomed to wallow in their non-
reality based misery. They have a choice...join the world and enjoy
it, or stay in their bubble. All one has to do is watch Megyn Kelly
and Karl Rove on Fox News election night to see the bubble burst.
They created their own reality with their own polls that fit with
their narrative. The facts have PROVEN their entire enterprise to be
nothing but absolute bullshit. Some of us have known this
forever...but if this doesn't make the Fox watchers say
"Oh...whoa...yeah...these guys are full of shit!", I don't know what
will.
Greg
ldnayman
Nov 9, 2012, 4:08:16 PM11/9/12
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you'd be SHOCKED that this isn't what they've taken from it.
Here's what they have:
1. Romney was fucked by the storm (ridiculous)
2. Obama ran the dirtiest campaign in history and Romney simply
couldn't compete (LOL)
3. The Media hates Republicans (what else is new)
So, long story short, the Republicans don't plan on changing. That's
good news for the Dems I guess.
And Megyn Kelly is hot.
RomulusX
Nov 9, 2012, 4:38:47 PM11/9/12
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ldnayman
Nov 9, 2012, 4:52:30 PM11/9/12
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On Nov 9, 4:38 pm, RomulusX <ricklbr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> So the answer is for all of the Fox audience to flip over to MSNBC?- Hide quoted text -
No, of course not. The point is that Fox isn't doing ANYBODY any
favors. They are bullshitting themselves and their audience. That's
why you have people here who seriously can't believe that 51 percent
of the country doesn't agree with them. We had one guy post here that
he can't believe Obama got more than 1% of the vote...and he's
SERIOUS.
If Fox continues to be king of bullshit mountain, the right will
continue to lose because their base will not understand that they need
to change the way they operate. You can't keep voting for nutjobs like
forcible/legitimate rape in the primaries, and you can't keep
pretending that the country hasn't changed.
The Republicans DO have a chance to return to relevancy - their
message of fiscal austerity, tax cuts, etc. will always resonate with
people. But they are so far off into loony land on everything else -
and so eager to alienate immigrants, minorities, gays, etc. - that
they are going to continue to lose "market share."
You think a two-party system sucks? Try a one party system. If the
Republicans don't change - and Fox and friends don't stop lying to
themselves and their audience - that's what's going to happen.
> So the answer is for all of the Fox audience to flip over to MSNBC?- Hide quoted text -
No, of course not. The point is that Fox isn't doing ANYBODY any
favors. They are bullshitting themselves and their audience. That's
why you have people here who seriously can't believe that 51 percent
of the country doesn't agree with them. We had one guy post here that
he can't believe Obama got more than 1% of the vote...and he's
SERIOUS.
If Fox continues to be king of bullshit mountain, the right will
continue to lose because their base will not understand that they need
to change the way they operate. You can't keep voting for nutjobs like
forcible/legitimate rape in the primaries, and you can't keep
pretending that the country hasn't changed.
The Republicans DO have a chance to return to relevancy - their
message of fiscal austerity, tax cuts, etc. will always resonate with
people. But they are so far off into loony land on everything else -
and so eager to alienate immigrants, minorities, gays, etc. - that
they are going to continue to lose "market share."
You think a two-party system sucks? Try a one party system. If the
Republicans don't change - and Fox and friends don't stop lying to
themselves and their audience - that's what's going to happen.
TheFamilyArcade
Nov 9, 2012, 5:00:53 PM11/9/12
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>
> And Megyn Kelly is hot.
desk" or whatever it was I was not impressed. good looking chick
though.
Greg, glad you've enjoyed it! I know I have. But I'm done. I'm not
going to respond to every wing-nut Obama hater that stumbles upon this
thread going forward. I have greatly enjoyed reading some of the
feedback to that lunatic on libertarian republican dot net. still
can't believe that isn't some Colbert style ruse. can someone be that
ignorant? and emotionally unstable? the dude is even worse than mr.
mongoloid and dr doofus and the paragon of stupidity contributing to
these threads.
TheFamilyArcade
Nov 9, 2012, 5:07:07 PM11/9/12
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> So the answer is for all of the Fox audience to flip over to MSNBC?
and maybe The Economist occasionally? Or The Atlantic Monthly? Maybe
tune into NPR a couple hours a week? I'm always amazed at the broad
spectrum of ideas these media channels address. No to mention being,
in NPR's case, providing really smart, funny NON political stuff...and
I don't even mean car-talk. I think most people have no clue how nice
it is to listen to all these awesome radio programs - interview shows,
music programs, BBC News Hour, whatever(!) without commercials. They
just think its liberal media BS. Their loss. Big time.
James Lewis
Nov 9, 2012, 5:38:42 PM11/9/12
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I love the fact that the Dems NEVER lie, they NEVER play dirty, and they
ALWAYS have everyones best interest at heart and if we conservatives
would just see the light and start watching CNN,MSNBC and the like who
ALWAYS tells the unbiased truth we would all just see the light.
couBULLSHITgh coBULLSHITugh. I smell the stink of Greece and its headed
to a country near you.
--
James Lewis
ldnayman
Nov 9, 2012, 6:07:59 PM11/9/12
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On Nov 9, 5:40 pm, James Lewis <zr11...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> I love the fact that the Dems NEVER lie, they NEVER play dirty, and they
> ALWAYS have everyones best interest at heart and if we conservatives
> would just see the light and start watching CNN,MSNBC and the like who
> ALWAYS tells the unbiased truth we would all just see the light.
> couBULLSHITgh coBULLSHITugh. I smell the stink of Greece and its headed
> to a country near you.
>
James, you silly bastard, that's not what ANYBODY is saying.
> I love the fact that the Dems NEVER lie, they NEVER play dirty, and they
> ALWAYS have everyones best interest at heart and if we conservatives
> would just see the light and start watching CNN,MSNBC and the like who
> ALWAYS tells the unbiased truth we would all just see the light.
> couBULLSHITgh coBULLSHITugh. I smell the stink of Greece and its headed
> to a country near you.
>
Your only source of information is Fox News. It has turned you into a
paranoid, quivering mass of jelly who has a house full of unsecured
and loaded firearms and a head full of fear. Fox isn't just lying to
you, they are lying to themselves, and you are all caught up in a
shitstorm of bullshit that has completely skewed your sense of
reality.
We are simply suggesting that you come up for air every now and then,
and try to understand what the REST of the country - in fact, the
MAJORITY of the country, as 5 of the last 6 popular presidential votes
shows - are thinking. Then, maybe it wouldn't be such a shock to your
system when things don't go your way.
It's just a suggestion, dude. You are drowning in a sea of ideological
bullshit.
JonC
Nov 9, 2012, 6:19:35 PM11/9/12
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He's already here, reelected just like Bush 2 was.
Jon
On Nov 7, 5:07 pm, "cody chunn" <cchu...@comcast.net> wrote:
> It will take another 200 years to get a prez worse than Bush The Second. You
> stand corrected.
>
> -cody
>
> "Pindoc1" wrote in messagenews:Pindoc1...@rrgparchive.com...
>
> I am going back and forth between disappointment, anger and incredulity
> concerning the stupidity of brainwashed idiots that just re-elected the
> worst president the United States has ever had. We can probably survive
> another 4 years of Obama and his minions but the takers who re-elected
> him won't ever go away.
> "The problem with Socialism is that you eventually run out of other
> people's money."
>
> --
> Pindoc1
Jon
On Nov 7, 5:07 pm, "cody chunn" <cchu...@comcast.net> wrote:
> It will take another 200 years to get a prez worse than Bush The Second. You
> stand corrected.
>
> -cody
>
> "Pindoc1" wrote in messagenews:Pindoc1...@rrgparchive.com...
>
> I am going back and forth between disappointment, anger and incredulity
> concerning the stupidity of brainwashed idiots that just re-elected the
> worst president the United States has ever had. We can probably survive
> another 4 years of Obama and his minions but the takers who re-elected
> him won't ever go away.
> "The problem with Socialism is that you eventually run out of other
> people's money."
>
> --
> Pindoc1
JonC
Nov 9, 2012, 6:23:50 PM11/9/12
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On Nov 6, 10:22 pm, metallik <metal...@fuse.net> wrote:
> CNN just called Ohio for Obama. Seems a bit early, but if it holds
> up, Romney's done.
Guess who said "Do you realize we got through the entire election
season, one of the
most divisive in history, without a single mega-troll thread on here?"
Of course *you* weren't trolling...
Jon
> CNN just called Ohio for Obama. Seems a bit early, but if it holds
> up, Romney's done.
Guess who said "Do you realize we got through the entire election
season, one of the
most divisive in history, without a single mega-troll thread on here?"
Of course *you* weren't trolling...
Jon
RomulusX
Nov 9, 2012, 6:26:40 PM11/9/12
to
Nancy Pelosi,Joe "their going to put you back in chains" Biden Maxine
Walters
and plenty other black female reps and senators.At least be
intellectually honest
and admit that almost every network and alot of other news services up
Obama's ass.
They ran cover for him and minimized any story line that would hinder
his election
and re election.Let's just hope things get better in this great
country,inspite of
poor leadership
JonC
Nov 9, 2012, 6:26:53 PM11/9/12
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On Nov 8, 8:56 am, ldnayman <ldnay...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Nov 8, 7:35 am, pinsto...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Just told the boy yesterday, sorry, dad was wrong. Forget all A's in advanced classes, pulled him out of private academy, pulled him out of school period. Forget about college, waste of time and money. Go have multiple kids with every woman he meets, maybe he will get to live with them for a while, get a cell phone and money every month from the govt., don't ever apply for a job that doesn't pay enough or anything you do not want to do. Sue everbody you meet, you will win a couple dumb and frivolous lawsuits. Steal little stuff when you want to, you have more rights than the owner you are stealing from and if you are caught, you will get a slap on the wrist so you can do it again. No jail time. No taxes on income. Whine, moan, and complain every chance you get. Free healthcare, call 911 and use the ambulance for a free ride across town. Just easier and better to go on the dole, and he will be fine. Let the hard working people and small business owners pay all the taxes, and get as many entitlements as possible. Always say "It's not fair"' Be a taker, and not a giver. The future of our land as being laid out by our govt. Debt will be over 20 trillion in 4 years. Somebody will pay. Starting with us, soon. Thank you American Govt, and dumb-ass, lazy ass, Americans.
>
> LOL
>
> The right-wing meltdown is one of the funniest things I ever said.
> Nice to see you copy everything from Fox News, right to the bitter
> end. Everybody on Fox yesterday was telling some variation of the
> above seeping vagina tale. "Oh, it's not our fault - not our fault
> that our party has moved so far to the right that it's out of touch
> with the country. Not our fault that ALL we have to offer is tax cuts
> for the rich. It's AMERICA'S fault. America is lazy and not white
> enough anymore. We are helpless!"
>
> Suck it up you fucking crybaby.
Since you have it in quotes, I have to ask, who said this?
Jon
> On Nov 8, 7:35 am, pinsto...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Just told the boy yesterday, sorry, dad was wrong. Forget all A's in advanced classes, pulled him out of private academy, pulled him out of school period. Forget about college, waste of time and money. Go have multiple kids with every woman he meets, maybe he will get to live with them for a while, get a cell phone and money every month from the govt., don't ever apply for a job that doesn't pay enough or anything you do not want to do. Sue everbody you meet, you will win a couple dumb and frivolous lawsuits. Steal little stuff when you want to, you have more rights than the owner you are stealing from and if you are caught, you will get a slap on the wrist so you can do it again. No jail time. No taxes on income. Whine, moan, and complain every chance you get. Free healthcare, call 911 and use the ambulance for a free ride across town. Just easier and better to go on the dole, and he will be fine. Let the hard working people and small business owners pay all the taxes, and get as many entitlements as possible. Always say "It's not fair"' Be a taker, and not a giver. The future of our land as being laid out by our govt. Debt will be over 20 trillion in 4 years. Somebody will pay. Starting with us, soon. Thank you American Govt, and dumb-ass, lazy ass, Americans.
>
> LOL
>
> The right-wing meltdown is one of the funniest things I ever said.
> Nice to see you copy everything from Fox News, right to the bitter
> end. Everybody on Fox yesterday was telling some variation of the
> above seeping vagina tale. "Oh, it's not our fault - not our fault
> that our party has moved so far to the right that it's out of touch
> with the country. Not our fault that ALL we have to offer is tax cuts
> for the rich. It's AMERICA'S fault. America is lazy and not white
> enough anymore. We are helpless!"
>
> Suck it up you fucking crybaby.
Since you have it in quotes, I have to ask, who said this?
Jon
JonC
Nov 9, 2012, 6:30:09 PM11/9/12
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Jon
ldnayman
Nov 9, 2012, 6:38:57 PM11/9/12
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On Nov 9, 6:30 pm, JonC <jchristia...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> "douchebaggery 'victory dances'"? Like you're doing right now? LOL
>
> Jon
EXACTLY Jon. Just like I'm doing now.
>
>
> "douchebaggery 'victory dances'"? Like you're doing right now? LOL
>
> Jon
Again, the biggest problem with you and your cronies is that you don't
realize your shit don't stink.
RomulusX
Nov 9, 2012, 6:42:26 PM11/9/12
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ldnayman
Nov 9, 2012, 6:43:10 PM11/9/12
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Shit is the focal point.
kismetnumber1
Nov 9, 2012, 6:51:58 PM11/9/12
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Wow... must have hit a nerve. Unemployed, eh? It's OK though, guys... you'll be able to go to college now - for free - and get those Medical degrees you've always dreamed of and then you can be happy because you'll finally be able to contribute to society instead of sucking of the tit... and then you can stop shovelling your crap in a forum where it doesn't belong.
Go to the political forums you whiners....
Go to the political forums you whiners....
James Lewis
Nov 9, 2012, 6:52:46 PM11/9/12
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Your only source of information is Fox News.
as to listen to/ watch /read and believe only Fox. Your wrong. I do not
however partake in any of the liberal tripe that is out there in any
form of media as it literally makes me sick to my stomach
It has turned you into a paranoid, quivering mass of jelly who has a
house full of unsecured and loaded firearms and a head full of fear.
the guns up and that your gods will turn the US into a socialist country
at best, no amount of personal firearms will stop that. I and many
others like guns and we like to shoot. There is a lot of satisfaction in
shooting a brick or bottle at 300 yard and watching it explode or
shooting skeet or other shit with a shotgun. And yes, unlike New York
there is crime everywhere and the cops are pretty much not worth a shit
for anything other than revenue enhancement through tickets so I would
not hesitate to blow the brains out of a home intruder. Hell it might
get that rapist you libbies are so fucking afraid of.
Fox isn't just lying to
you, they are lying to themselves, and you are all caught up in a
shitstorm of bullshit that has completely skewed your sense of
reality.
not?
Or, is it that you just want to believe that?
We are simply suggesting that you come up for air every now and then
liberally biased. What? No way? Thats what I though.
and try to understand what the REST of the country.
I believe its pretty much still close to 50/50. If it weren't for the
illegals the welfare recipients wanting a free ride on my dime and the
gay agenda your boy would be out.
You are drowning in a sea of ideological
bullshit.
want to believe our forefathers were conservative. I do believe they
came to America to escape socialism and communism. Now your Marxist
idealism will turn this country into a shit hole like the rest of the
world. I would rather stand up and fight it and die than live in the
world that people like you are pushing us into.
Rare Hero
Nov 9, 2012, 7:19:09 PM11/9/12
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On Nov 9, 3:54 pm, James Lewis <zr11...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Once again why is it that Fox consistently lies but MSNBC and CNN do
> not?
> Or, is it that you just want to believe that?
Time to put your money where your mouth is.
> Once again why is it that Fox consistently lies but MSNBC and CNN do
> not?
> Or, is it that you just want to believe that?
Prove it.
Link us to a video of an MSNBC lie or hypocrisy.
Here's what you don't comprehend. MSBNC hosts ARE left in their
politics and opinions. However, their opinions are backed up with
FACTS. They're generally fact checking and calling out the
hypocrisies of the rightwing media (Fox, Limbaugh, etc)...with FACTS.
That is why comparing Fox to MSNBC is a false equivalency. You view
the world in terms of sides or teams. LEFT VS. RIGHT. That's not
reality. MSNBC ONLY exists because Fox's phony reality has taken root
in your brain...they're there to debunk the lies with FACTS.
You're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts....and
facts tend to not agree with the right wing narrative, and thus
rightwingers are dismissive of facts, science, and reality.
So anyway...there are billions of videos on youtube showing Fox News
lies, distortions, propaganda...they can all be debunked with facts.
I'm looking forward to MSNBC clips featuring lies. BTW, I've seen
them get stories wrong...but then once they have the facts they
RETRACT and APOLOGIZE. That's what good journalists do.
Greg
Pinthetic
Nov 9, 2012, 7:42:37 PM11/9/12
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I am quite surprised at the amount of hate and bigotry that has shown
up in this thread. Actually pretty dissapointing from this group. I
had thought much better of the people in this hobby but it looks like
I may be off a little in my thinking. A lot of bashing "whitey" here
that I really don't get because "whitely" doesn't run this country
anymore and hasn't for a while now, but what ever helps you sleep at
night I guess.
Green waste, green power, green everything is a sham. I work in this
industry. It's a fabricated money making scheme for outfits like Waste
Management, BFI, and independant landfills that produce electric power
from methane gas. They up your rates to "go green" and then use that
money and the tax credits to go into the power producing industry and
rip you a new one over there using your money. Green house gas
reduction is a myth. Everything that rots produces methane gas. Its
all around you and I'll leave it there as to not be crude.
Using only a portion of waste to energy gas they can mix that with
natural utility gas and be called "green". Get thems lots of cookies
while driving up the price of energy to the consumer. I don't know why
people don't wake up to this. It's like recycling cans and bottles.
You get a measly portion in return on redemption value while fat
pockets are lined with the rest.
I am not a fan of this administration and I didn't think Romney was
the answer either but one thing I know is we have bought four more
years of reverse gear for the middle class. Remember the middle class
is not where it used to be. It's about $25K less now. You have to
start preparing for that and leave the bickering out as it isn't going
to change anything now. Move your retirement plans away from funds
that don't pay guaranteed interest. It's not much but at least you
will keep all your contributions instead of them bleeding you out
every quarter.
It's not rocket science that the wealthy in this country are moving
thier money offshore at a rate never seen before. Tax the rich more,
that will never really happen. Remember the president may be a
democrat but he is also rich, and wait until his term is finished.
He'll clean up on the speaker tour also. He's not going to cut his own
financial throat either. The way we are going if you make $50K in ten
years you will be considered rich.
The home industry is not rebounding. Interest rates at 2% are the only
reason homes are moving at all. The auto industry is nothing like it
used to be so that isn't true either. All the parts manufacturing that
surrounded it is GONE! for good. They'll be news about job growth
between now and Christmas and lots made about it. Yep, minimum wage
sales jobs with no benefits. Real growth there, LOL.
You need to look at a lot of things that you do and change them to
suit you, not what the administration wants. Cut them off where you
can.
Look at the exit polls and you will see where the future is headed. If
that doesn't wake you up nothing will.Use that info to plan your next
four years politically and the rest of your life. Maybe its time to
relocate to a state or anywhere that thinks more like you do. I am
considering it based on what is happening around me. Be in charge of
you, don't hand that to someone else.
If you are over 55 and work for the public you might want to grab that
retirement now. They are going to cut it in the next 5 years for those
still working. Lock it in now and find part itme work to fill the
void.
I hope everyone has a great evening!
Mario
Pinthetic
On Nov 8, 12:21 pm, Pin-Junk <g...@helluvafind.com> wrote:
>
> Obamacare is going to tax the value of your employer provided health care - so if you an average family with health insurance cost of about $10,000 a year for your employer your income tax will go up about $3000 a year. No one has talked about this and I really don't understand why?
>
> Fuel , electric, natural gas and heating oil will "necessarily" increase to fund green energy programs (this is in Obama's own words if you listen to what he has said all along).
>
> Printing money will cause inflation so food prices & everything thing else will go up. We have all already been seeing this. Plus any money you have in savings, IRA, etc will be worth less because of inflation. (Unless you have something like gold)
>
> Taxing the rich isn't going to hurt the rich - they will just charge more for products you buy from them or services they provide so the little guys still pays in the end. Most of the rich have gotten their money buy owning businesses or still running businesses. They will never pay more they just pass increased cost along in the cost of good they sell.
>
> And I could go on for ever if I wanted to. With all the said I am a registered democrat and I don't blame either party - I blame both of them.
>
> Bottom line - Spending more than you are taking in doesn't work and will not end well. Giving away "free stuff" to 47% of the population doesn't work - people have to work not wait for government handouts. Stuff like Social Security isn't government handout - that is us getting our money back that was paid into the system. But some of the other government programs have to be cut, we need less government waste, less government employees, and elected people to do their job or be replaced.
>
> Problem is - 4 more years of the same isn't going to fix anything. I really wish something had changed but now we have what we have. Just remember now we will all have about 20% less in 4 years than we have today. Thanks to everyone in the majority!
up in this thread. Actually pretty dissapointing from this group. I
had thought much better of the people in this hobby but it looks like
I may be off a little in my thinking. A lot of bashing "whitey" here
that I really don't get because "whitely" doesn't run this country
anymore and hasn't for a while now, but what ever helps you sleep at
night I guess.
Green waste, green power, green everything is a sham. I work in this
industry. It's a fabricated money making scheme for outfits like Waste
Management, BFI, and independant landfills that produce electric power
from methane gas. They up your rates to "go green" and then use that
money and the tax credits to go into the power producing industry and
rip you a new one over there using your money. Green house gas
reduction is a myth. Everything that rots produces methane gas. Its
all around you and I'll leave it there as to not be crude.
Using only a portion of waste to energy gas they can mix that with
natural utility gas and be called "green". Get thems lots of cookies
while driving up the price of energy to the consumer. I don't know why
people don't wake up to this. It's like recycling cans and bottles.
You get a measly portion in return on redemption value while fat
pockets are lined with the rest.
I am not a fan of this administration and I didn't think Romney was
the answer either but one thing I know is we have bought four more
years of reverse gear for the middle class. Remember the middle class
is not where it used to be. It's about $25K less now. You have to
start preparing for that and leave the bickering out as it isn't going
to change anything now. Move your retirement plans away from funds
that don't pay guaranteed interest. It's not much but at least you
will keep all your contributions instead of them bleeding you out
every quarter.
It's not rocket science that the wealthy in this country are moving
thier money offshore at a rate never seen before. Tax the rich more,
that will never really happen. Remember the president may be a
democrat but he is also rich, and wait until his term is finished.
He'll clean up on the speaker tour also. He's not going to cut his own
financial throat either. The way we are going if you make $50K in ten
years you will be considered rich.
The home industry is not rebounding. Interest rates at 2% are the only
reason homes are moving at all. The auto industry is nothing like it
used to be so that isn't true either. All the parts manufacturing that
surrounded it is GONE! for good. They'll be news about job growth
between now and Christmas and lots made about it. Yep, minimum wage
sales jobs with no benefits. Real growth there, LOL.
You need to look at a lot of things that you do and change them to
suit you, not what the administration wants. Cut them off where you
can.
Look at the exit polls and you will see where the future is headed. If
that doesn't wake you up nothing will.Use that info to plan your next
four years politically and the rest of your life. Maybe its time to
relocate to a state or anywhere that thinks more like you do. I am
considering it based on what is happening around me. Be in charge of
you, don't hand that to someone else.
If you are over 55 and work for the public you might want to grab that
retirement now. They are going to cut it in the next 5 years for those
still working. Lock it in now and find part itme work to fill the
void.
I hope everyone has a great evening!
Mario
Pinthetic
On Nov 8, 12:21 pm, Pin-Junk <g...@helluvafind.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 6, 2012 11:22:21 PM UTC-5, metallik wrote:
> > CNN just called Ohio for Obama. Seems a bit early, but if it holds
>
> > up, Romney's done.
>
> Well the majority got what they wished for but I wonder how many of you actually realize what you got.
> > CNN just called Ohio for Obama. Seems a bit early, but if it holds
>
> > up, Romney's done.
>
>
> Obamacare is going to tax the value of your employer provided health care - so if you an average family with health insurance cost of about $10,000 a year for your employer your income tax will go up about $3000 a year. No one has talked about this and I really don't understand why?
>
> Fuel , electric, natural gas and heating oil will "necessarily" increase to fund green energy programs (this is in Obama's own words if you listen to what he has said all along).
>
> Printing money will cause inflation so food prices & everything thing else will go up. We have all already been seeing this. Plus any money you have in savings, IRA, etc will be worth less because of inflation. (Unless you have something like gold)
>
> Taxing the rich isn't going to hurt the rich - they will just charge more for products you buy from them or services they provide so the little guys still pays in the end. Most of the rich have gotten their money buy owning businesses or still running businesses. They will never pay more they just pass increased cost along in the cost of good they sell.
>
> And I could go on for ever if I wanted to. With all the said I am a registered democrat and I don't blame either party - I blame both of them.
>
> Bottom line - Spending more than you are taking in doesn't work and will not end well. Giving away "free stuff" to 47% of the population doesn't work - people have to work not wait for government handouts. Stuff like Social Security isn't government handout - that is us getting our money back that was paid into the system. But some of the other government programs have to be cut, we need less government waste, less government employees, and elected people to do their job or be replaced.
>
> Problem is - 4 more years of the same isn't going to fix anything. I really wish something had changed but now we have what we have. Just remember now we will all have about 20% less in 4 years than we have today. Thanks to everyone in the majority!
Tom
Nov 9, 2012, 8:28:32 PM11/9/12
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homebrood
Nov 9, 2012, 8:42:17 PM11/9/12
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EM PINMAN
Nov 9, 2012, 9:03:16 PM11/9/12
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On Tuesday, November 6, 2012 9:22:21 PM UTC-7, metallik wrote:
> CNN just called Ohio for Obama. Seems a bit early, but if it holds
>
> up, Romney's done.
*Four more years* of extreme pinball playing. Now that's entertainment!
> CNN just called Ohio for Obama. Seems a bit early, but if it holds
>
> up, Romney's done.
Ken ;-)
ldnayman
Nov 9, 2012, 9:40:54 PM11/9/12
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On Nov 9, 6:54 pm, James Lewis <zr11...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Your only source of information is Fox News.
>
> You do a lot of ASSuming. Do you really think I'm that fucking stupid
> as to listen to/ watch /read and believe only Fox.
Yes.
> Your only source of information is Fox News.
>
> You do a lot of ASSuming. Do you really think I'm that fucking stupid
> as to listen to/ watch /read and believe only Fox.
Your wrong. I do not
> however partake in any of the liberal tripe that is out there in any
> form of media as it literally makes me sick to my stomach
"liberal tripe" besides Fox? We already know the answer to that
because you've already said it.
>Hell it might
> get that rapist you libbies are so fucking afraid of.
>
make light of the fact that women in this country are tired of the
right wing trying to control their vaginas and uteri, along with the
idea that they "want" to be raped. Have your yuks, but that's one of
the COUNTLESS reasons you keep losing elections.
>
> Maybe you could do the same and listen to or read something that isn't
> liberally biased. What? No way? Thats what I though.
election night. That's how I recognize all of your endlessly repeated
arguments, verbatim. You parrot everything on Fox. And, much like
watching Fox, while it's amusing in small doses it gets tiring fast.
> Conservative ideas and hard work built America. Regardless of what you
> want to believe our forefathers were conservative.
party represents - and most of your paranoid delusions - do not
reflect traditional conservatism. That is why it is failing.
> I would rather stand up and fight it and die than live in the
> world that people like you are pushing us into.
>
> --
changing, with or without you.
James Lewis
Nov 10, 2012, 1:28:14 AM11/10/12
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James Lewis
Nov 10, 2012, 1:31:08 AM11/10/12
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Royal Guard
Nov 10, 2012, 9:26:36 AM11/10/12
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James Lewis;2017966 Wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6G0-UbESeo&feature=related
Sad, but true!!
--
Royal Guard
jhanley
Nov 10, 2012, 9:44:46 AM11/10/12
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I can not actually believe that there are people like Chuck Norris that
believe this tripe!Its complete bullshit!These dinosaurs need to go
extinct and I believe they slowly are.
--
jhanley
believe this tripe!Its complete bullshit!These dinosaurs need to go
extinct and I believe they slowly are.
--
jhanley
JonC
Nov 10, 2012, 11:36:26 AM11/10/12
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On Nov 9, 5:38 pm, ldnayman <ldnay...@aol.com> wrote:
Jon
ldnayman
Nov 10, 2012, 11:38:14 AM11/10/12
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totally conservatardish LOL
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