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Who will have the first LCD game on location Stern or Jersey Jack?

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Pinball Plus

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May 24, 2012, 5:46:16 PM5/24/12
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can hardly wait! Its getting close.

I was at the Casino last night and they had a GhostBusters slot.
Movie footage ,humor and great sounds.Must be 50 60k machines. A total
exp. for the gamer. Its amazing when you compare the technology to a
reel slot of just a few years ago . Heck even the player control
buttons had animation in them just like a small TV in in a push
button!

It has to be a race now with these 2 companies to see who will get
the upper hand on new pinball technology...

Lloyd Olson

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May 24, 2012, 5:57:27 PM5/24/12
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What race ?

One company is working on one and one company has rumors of one ?

Jersey Jack Pinball will be the first.

LTG :)

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MrBally

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May 24, 2012, 6:48:18 PM5/24/12
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On May 24, 5:57 pm, "Lloyd Olson" <l...@ssbilliards.com> wrote:
> What race ?
>
> One company is working on one and one company has rumors of one ?
>
> Jersey Jack Pinball will be the first.
>
> LTG :)
>
> "Pinball Plus" <pinballp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:5793d1df-db28-432c...@t2g2000pbg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > can hardly wait! Its getting close.
>
> > I was at the Casino last night and they had a GhostBusters slot.
> > Movie footage ,humor and great sounds.Must be 50 60k machines. A total
> > exp. for the gamer. Its amazing when you compare the technology to a
> > reel slot of just a few years ago . Heck even the player control
> > buttons had animation in them just like a small TV in in a  push
> > button!
>
> >   It has to  be a race now with these 2 companies to see who will get
> > the upper hand on new pinball technology...- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I agree, no race. Didn't Marsplay release a pin with an LCD last year?
I know, I know; not a greta game.

chuck

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May 24, 2012, 6:59:34 PM5/24/12
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On Thursday, May 24, 2012 6:48:18 PM UTC-4, MrBally wrote:

> > >   It has to  be a race now with these 2 companies to see who will get
> > > the upper hand on new pinball technology...- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I agree, no race. Didn't Marsplay release a pin with an LCD last year?
> I know, I know; not a greta game.

Actually, probably a Nucore pin2k ;-)

Detroitboy

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May 24, 2012, 7:13:26 PM5/24/12
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Obviously it will be Jack. Xmen is not even out yet and it is not going
to be an LCD for sure. Jack will have beta games on location within a
month and said he will be shipping customer games in July.


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SaBbRa CaDaBra

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May 24, 2012, 8:37:44 PM5/24/12
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pretty cool has Jersey Jack is implementing technology that Williams
used 12 years ago, although I still have to give them credit because
they are new. Stern has had 12 years to do it, and is still getting
beat by Jack. Neither of which are probably going to do it as cool as
P2K did it. I mean come on, putting a tv in the backbox, reversing
the image, and reflecting a hologram looking image on the playfield
that seemingly interacts with the playfield ball (at least on Revenge
from Mars)!! (That is awesome!) Imagine P2K with Playboy theme.
Pinball is gonna have to do some pretty cool stuff with the tv to make
it anything special in my opinion. Playing movie clips,
advertisements just isn't going to be an attraction for me. I have a
tv in my living room and it is at it's best when it is OFF. What is
the advantage of an LCD anyway, better graphics for your video mode?
Maybe i'm not understanding it, what is the attraction again?

nwojedi

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May 24, 2012, 9:49:40 PM5/24/12
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Pinballnewsgroupreader;1945309 Wrote:
> On May 24, 5:46*pm, Pinball Plus <pinballp... (AT) gmail (DOT) com>
> wrote:
> > can hardly wait! Its getting close.
> >
> > *I was at the Casino last night and they had a GhostBusters slot.
> > Movie footage ,humor and great sounds.Must be 50 60k machines. A total
> > exp. for the gamer. Its amazing when you compare the technology to a
> > reel slot of just a few years ago . Heck even the player control
> > buttons had animation in them just like a small TV in in a *push
> > button!
> >
> > * *It has to *be a race now with these 2 companies to see who will get
> > the upper hand on new pinball technology...
>
> pretty cool has Jersey Jack is implementing technology that Williams
> used 12 years ago, although I still have to give them credit because
> they are new. Stern has had 12 years to do it, and is still getting
> beat by Jack. Neither of which are probably going to do it as cool as
> P2K did it. I mean come on, putting a tv in the backbox, reversing
> the image, and reflecting a hologram looking image on the playfield
> that seemingly interacts with the playfield ball (at least on Revenge
> from Mars)!! (That is awesome!) Imagine P2K with Playboy theme.
> Pinball is gonna have to do some pretty cool stuff with the tv to make
> it anything special in my opinion. Playing movie clips,
> advertisements just isn't going to be an attraction for me. I have a
> tv in my living room and it is at it's best when it is OFF. What is
> the advantage of an LCD anyway, better graphics for your video mode?
> Maybe i'm not understanding it, what is the attraction again?

I agree. LCD in the backbox is great, but it's not revolutionary by any
means. It's just a different look with the same old pinball. P2k made
it interactive, and brought it to a whole new level. That was
inventive. Like the P3 stuff. That's also inventive.


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SaBbRa CaDaBra

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May 24, 2012, 10:03:26 PM5/24/12
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> _www.Captainneo.com(\"http://www.captainneo.com\")__:D
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Everywhere i go, there i am. I'm confused. Anyway, my question is
which manufacturer will be the first to put a shitty commercial on the
LCD?

Detroitboy

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May 25, 2012, 10:06:24 AM5/25/12
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On May 24, 10:03 pm, SaBbRa CaDaBra <generalemailacco...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
My mother always told me if I can't say something nice about someone
to not say anything at all....so I'm not going to give an opinion on
that obvious question.

CactusJack

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May 25, 2012, 12:06:05 PM5/25/12
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Pinballnewsgroupreader;1945390 Wrote:
> On May 24, 9:49*pm, nwojedi <nwoj... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>
> wrote:[color=blue]
> > Pinballnewsgroupreader;1945309 Wrote:
>
> Everywhere i go, there i am. I'm confused. Anyway, my question is
> which manufacturer will be the first to put a shitty commercial on the
> LCD?

Shitty commercial aside, what about a "Great" commercial (like Superbowl
caliber)

As much as you may hate the concept, incorporating national advertising
on a pinball platform could only help bring it back into the public eye.
Beyond it possibly drawing attention to the game for non-players, it
may also offset the higher cost to produce the games in the future.
Unfortunately, those royalties would probably never make it to the
people that actually buy the game (operators). But it might bring the
price down a bit?

RB


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Boxer Bell

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May 25, 2012, 12:54:29 PM5/25/12
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I wonder who will be the first one to hack their new pin to stream
movies, Netflix, etc, to the LCD screen...


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rly...@carolina.rr.com

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May 25, 2012, 1:53:45 PM5/25/12
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Putting an LCD on the pinball machine is kind of like installing a
toilet in one. Sure... you COULD do it.... but why?


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Detroitboy

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May 25, 2012, 2:27:11 PM5/25/12
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I'm sick of all comercials....every website...ebay...fb...google...name
them all!

I use a lot of news sites during the day, and its all full of the
teasers like the 5 oclock news "Kate in daring bikini" etc...and of
course they are all video's with commercials in front of them so I never
even click on them. There is no way I'm going to pay to have comercials
on a screen on my pinball game. If that is the future of the game I
would just prefer to stay with the current DMD games.

Once you let them get a foot in the door you might as well just prop it
wide open.


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MrBally

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May 25, 2012, 3:29:36 PM5/25/12
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Just like cable teevee when it went mainstream in the early '80's; for
a small monthly fee, you'll never watch another commercial.
LLLLLLLLLMFAO! As far as internet, backgrounds at sports venues etc;
Kids today would give up teevee before the internet. Guess where
marketing scum will be CONcentrating.....

EZ SLEEZE E

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May 25, 2012, 3:39:03 PM5/25/12
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Don't be surprised it your WOZ LCD is nothing more than an ADVERTISING
bill board like a LCD in the back of a cab in VEGAS!

Wizardry

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May 25, 2012, 3:45:06 PM5/25/12
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Advertising is not going to happen with a licensedd pin unless it is
related cross promotion with the approval of the licensor. Thus, maybe
woz could play wb commercials.


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JimS

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May 25, 2012, 4:02:53 PM5/25/12
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>
> I agree. LCD in the backbox is great, but it's not revolutionary by any
> means.  It's just  a different look with the same old pinball.  P2k made
> it interactive, and brought it to a whole new level.    That was
> inventive.  Like the P3 stuff.  That's also inventive.
>
> --
> nwojedi
>

Angry Birds is just another video game on a handheld system. Still,
millions of people were hooked on it. Though not revolutionary, why
not have a better display than the 128x32 dot matrix? Innovation comes
in many forms too. As I understand it, the software platform and
development system created for High Speed had a revolutionary impact
for operators, yet outwardly little had changed.

IMHO just producing an excellent playing game with good quality the
first time out will be a huge accomplishment for Jack. Extras like an
LCD display, stereo sound, internet connectivity, a headphone
jack,.etc, are a bonus.

Jim

rly...@carolina.rr.com

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May 25, 2012, 5:18:27 PM5/25/12
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Personally, I think Alphanumeric was the way to go :) Then it looked
like a pinball machine. The DMD looks like a bad television, and the
LCD will look like a videogame.


I'm hoping he does it creatively enough though that it's fun, we'll have
to see what he cooks up.


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SaBbRa CaDaBra

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May 25, 2012, 5:23:09 PM5/25/12
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On May 25, 3:45 pm, Wizardry <essan...@spray.se> wrote:
> Advertising is not going to happen with a licensedd pin

doubt it

>unless it is
> related cross promotion with the approval of the licensor.

doubt it

>Thus, maybe
> woz could play wb commercials.

I don't know what wb is, but I doubt I want it in game.


SaBbRa CaDaBra

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May 25, 2012, 5:34:01 PM5/25/12
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How about instead of "innovation" of adding a tv to a pinball backbox,
which is not really innovative at all, we get some innovation on the
playfield like some innovative in addition to the typical fan, two
ramps, one orbit, third flipper standard layout. How about some
innovation to diagnostics and repair like P2K did or test reports from
a remote location. Friggin TV, might as well just order an ULTRAPIN.
Take the friggin backbox off the game altogether, put the DMD under
the glass like Voltaire did (which would eliminate glare once and for
all DUH should have been done on every game after that, and put the
circuit boards in the cabinet where all that wasted space is located.
Save money on plywood, translite, and artwork with no backbox. Just
stick a little marquee on top of the back of the game as the billboard
area. How ya like them apples?

SaBbRa CaDaBra

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May 25, 2012, 5:20:23 PM5/25/12
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On May 25, 2:27 pm, Detroitboy <basda...@hotmail.com> wrote:
A-FRICKIN-MEN BROTHER! Are you listening Jack, Gary?? Can you
imagine if Williams would have put 3D holographic looking
advertisements in the P2K game? That would be more annoying than JAR
JAR BINKS!!

MrBally

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May 25, 2012, 5:37:07 PM5/25/12
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On May 25, 5:23 pm, SaBbRa CaDaBra <generalemailacco...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Williams Bally or Warner Brothers are my guesses.

SaBbRa CaDaBra

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May 25, 2012, 5:38:03 PM5/25/12
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On May 25, 5:18 pm, RLyo...@carolina.rr.com <rlyo...@carolina.rr.com>
wrote:
> Personally, I think Alphanumeric was the way to go :)  Then it looked
> like a pinball machine.

I like the score reels, I think that looks like pinball. Alpha is
cool too in its own way.

SpecialWhenLit

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May 25, 2012, 7:24:21 PM5/25/12
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> IMHO just producing an excellent playing game with good quality the
> first time out will be a huge accomplishment for Jack. Extras like an
> LCD display, stereo sound, internet connectivity, a headphone
> jack,.etc, are a bonus.
>
> Jim

An LCD is so 2005.

EK

rly...@carolina.rr.com

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May 25, 2012, 7:42:49 PM5/25/12
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In 1998, you could order a LCD screen for your Playstation 1.


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mzhulk

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May 25, 2012, 7:49:27 PM5/25/12
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Then don't buy it, put your 10,000 tolds an AFM.

EZ SLEEZE E

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May 25, 2012, 9:22:05 PM5/25/12
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It's like a swiss army knife, great idea poor application. You can
stuff the game with what one thinks is cool shit and miss the point
you're making a pinball machine and drop a turd! I'm sure during brain
storming events all this shit was tossed out there. In a couple years
I'm sure the word from all the employees will be it was JJP and we had
almost no input! KISS! Keep It Simple Stupid! BTW it's almost June 1
and no games! Funny I've got a email somewhere stating my games would
ship in March! That's my fault I thought 2012! Funny how people that
have money in play don't say much but again the games are going out
July! What year?

JimS

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May 25, 2012, 9:48:23 PM5/25/12
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How can you say "poor application"?? The game isn't even out yet.
Sheesh!

Jim

Rare Hero

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May 25, 2012, 9:53:48 PM5/25/12
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I guess this is the mess that comes out of your mouth when you eat a
bag of dicks.

Greg


On May 25, 6:22 pm, EZ SLEEZE E <erikhoh...@gmail.com> wrote:

cody chunn

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May 26, 2012, 3:17:52 PM5/26/12
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He is a Class-A TROLL. It behooves him to post stupidity.

-cody


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On May 25, 6:22 pm, EZ SLEEZE E <erikhoh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> TROLLspeak...

cody chunn

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May 26, 2012, 3:23:07 PM5/26/12
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In pinball, LCD is so 2012!

That's about as bright as saying "Flippers are so 1947!"

-cody


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JimS

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May 26, 2012, 10:03:57 PM5/26/12
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On May 26, 12:23 pm, "cody chunn" <cchu...@comcast.net> wrote:
> In pinball, LCD is so 2012!
>
> That's about as bright as saying "Flippers are so 1947!"
>
> -cody
>
>
> On May 25, 7:24 pm, SpecialWhenLit <SpecialWhen...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > An LCD is so 2005.
>
> > EK
>
Good point Cody :-)

Jim

EricSchmitt

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May 27, 2012, 2:22:30 AM5/27/12
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RLy...@carolina.rr.com;1945720 Wrote:
> Putting an LCD on the pinball machine is kind of like installing a
> toilet in one. Sure... you COULD do it.... but why?

I ask myself that every time I play South Park :eek:

Which has not been in years.


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Dan Q very much

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May 27, 2012, 2:39:24 AM5/27/12
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On May 25, 12:53 pm, RLyo...@carolina.rr.com <rlyo...@carolina.rr.com>
wrote:
> Putting an LCD on the pinball machine is kind of like installing a
> toilet in one.  Sure... you COULD do it.... but why?


Oh, we'll all see why.

Pachinkos and slots added them years ago, and they haven't looked back.
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