Gottlieb Bronco Schematics

[joenewberry]

Does anyone have the PDF version of the Gottlieb Bronco Schematics? If
someone could PM or e-mail them to me that would be much appreciated.


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[Frank Furhter]

joenewberry wrote:
> Does anyone have the PDF version of the Gottlieb Bronco Schematics? If
> someone could PM or e-mail them to me that would be much appreciated.

Make sure you share the goodness when it comes your way.

[joenewberry]

If no one can help with an electronic version of the schematic, would
someone with a Bronco be willing to take pictures of the jones plugs and
sockets on the main board and that whole general area around the
transformer? This game has been nested in by rats, who've chewed up a
bunch of wires in the very back. I now need to reattach all those wires
and a schematic would have been the best way to do it, but I should be
able to get to work with some good upclose pictures of someone else's
non-rodent devoured version.

[David Gersic]

On Sat, 26 May 2012 01:59:54 -0400, joenewberry <jdnew...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> If no one can help with an electronic version of the schematic, would

You can get a schematic from Pinball Resource.

> someone with a Bronco be willing to take pictures of the jones plugs and
> sockets on the main board and that whole general area around the
> transformer?

I just finished a Bronco a couple of weeks ago. Your game had rats? Mine
seems to have had cats living in it, as there was a big pile of cat food
in the bottom, and some on the playfield. I have a few pics of that area
you're welcome to:

http://www.zaccaria-pinball.com/temp/bronco

Unfortunately (for you), I just delivered the game, so I can't take any
more pics of it for you.


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[Todd Newman]

On May 27, 11:39 am, David Gersic <usenet_spam_t...@zaccaria-
pinball.com> wrote:

Dave;
You do great work. It really looks nice.

[joenewberry]

David Gersic;1946672 Wrote:

> On Sat, 26 May 2012 01:59:54 -0400, joenewberry <jdnewberry (AT) gmail
> (DOT) com> wrote:
>
> I just finished a Bronco a couple of weeks ago. Your game had rats? Mine
> seems to have had cats living in it, as there was a big pile of cat food
> in the bottom, and some on the playfield. I have a few pics of that area
> you're welcome to:
>
> http://www.zaccaria-pinball.com/temp/bronco
>
> Unfortunately (for you), I just delivered the game, so I can't take any
> more pics of it for you.
>
>

Thank you, Dave. That is a great help. The picture of the transformer
and socket can get me started. A couple of other RGP members have also
offered to take pictures of the plugs for me.

[David Gersic]

On Sun, 27 May 2012 08:50:35 -0700 (PDT), Todd Newman <packe...@comcast.net> wrote:
> You do great work. It really looks nice.

Thanks. You can see more pics of this game's overhaul here:

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.3646848062636.142116.1617455486&type=3

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[MrBally]

On May 27, 11:39 am, David Gersic <usenet_spam_t...@zaccaria-
pinball.com> wrote:

I don't think you can get an electronic version(pdf) of a Bronco
schematic from Pinball Resource. In fact, you can't "get" the paper
schematic from there either. You can "buy" it from Pinball Resource
though.
Unfortunately, I don't have one, otherwise I would scan it and email
it to the op.

[joenewberry]

David Gersic;1946934 Wrote:

> On Sun, 27 May 2012 08:50:35 -0700 (PDT), Todd Newman <packer.fan (AT)
> comcast (DOT) net> wrote:
> > You do great work. It really looks nice.
>
> Thanks. You can see more pics of this game's overhaul here:
>

> http://tinyurl.com/78aftvz

>
>
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It is gorgeous. Your metal shines like new when you're through with it.
Do you clean your parts with a sonic bath or some other method?

I'm thoroughly impressed with your orderliness. Everything is laid out
so neatly. I bet you never lose anything. I felt like I'd really
reached the height of organization when I started keeping parts from
each component in its own separate plastic bowl.

[David Gersic]

On Sun, 27 May 2012 21:41:50 -0700 (PDT), MrBally <american...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I don't think you can get an electronic version(pdf) of a Bronco
> schematic from Pinball Resource. In fact, you can't "get" the paper
> schematic from there either. You can "buy" it from Pinball Resource
> though.

Correct. Steve has the library, and the reproduction rights, for
Gottlieb schematics.

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[David Gersic]

On Mon, 28 May 2012 00:54:32 -0400, joenewberry <jdnew...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It is gorgeous. Your metal shines like new when you're through with it.

Thanks. This was just a basic overhaul, not a full restoration. So,
no artwork touchups or anything like that, just what's needed to turn
a non-working lump in to a playable EM game again.

> Do you clean your parts with a sonic bath or some other method?

Other method. The short version is that everything gets disassembled.
All mechanical parts that can be removed go in the deep sink with a
spray bottle of Super Clean degreaser and an assortment of toothbrushes
and small bottle brushes. They get rinsed off, then dropped in an
alcohol bath to remove any remaining water, then laid out to dry.

Switch contacts, stepper wiper boards, and similar parts are then
cleaned with a flexstone (switches) or 3M Scotchbrite green (boards),
then cleaned with a mixture of Windex and alcohol and a toothbrush
to remove any remaining residue or gunk.

On reassembly, moving metal-on-metal parts get some Radio Shack teflon
"Super Lube" grease. Plastic-on-metal parts don't need lubrication.

Chromed or plated parts, like the Gottlieb post nuts, get hit with
a polishing wheel and some jewler's rouge.

> I'm thoroughly impressed with your orderliness. Everything is laid out
> so neatly. I bet you never lose anything.

That's *why* everything is laid out neatly, to ensure that nothing
gets lost. I sometimes have to return to the deep sink to find the
missing E clip, lockwasher, or cotter pin that got dropped. By laying
out everything, it's easy to see that I've got four screws and three
lockwashers and deduce that there's something missing.

> I felt like I'd really
> reached the height of organization when I started keeping parts from
> each component in its own separate plastic bowl.

That's where I start. The bowl is what goes from workbench to deep sink
and back again. If I'm storing the parts instead of immediately
reassembling them, then they go in the divider boxes with scrap paper
labels to keep straight what goes where.

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[Frank Furhter]

David Gersic wrote:
> On Sun, 27 May 2012 08:50:35 -0700 (PDT), Todd Newman<packe...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> You do great work. It really looks nice.
>
> Thanks. You can see more pics of this game's overhaul here:
>
> http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.3646848062636.142116.1617455486&type=3

Waterslide and scanner, they are friends.

[joenewberry]

Thanks to Dave Cadieux and David Gersic, who provided me with pictures
of their own Bronco machines, I was able to repair all the damage caused
by the nefarious rats. It's not pretty, and it'll probably have to be
redone with heatshrink tubing at some point, but it got the game
working. I'm sorry to show off something a lot of you probably consider
child's play, and an ugly patch job, but to me this was an
accomplishment. I doubted whether I'd ever even tackle fixing it, let
alone actually succeed.

The last picture in each group shows the part that gave me such
headaches. Two wires, amongst a sea of perfectly fine ones, way up the
cable to the playfield. Why the rats wanted those two tiny pieces of
wire is beyond me. They had plenty more to chew from on the motorboard.

Anyway, if you're interested, I uploaded some pictures of the damage and
repair, and a video of the game fully working (the Special light wasn't
coming on at the time, but I have since corrected that).

Before:
'http://tinypic.com/r/2ntk9xk/6' (http://tinypic.com/r/2ntk9xk/6)
'http://tinypic.com/r/1pi1og/6' (http://tinypic.com/r/1pi1og/6)
'http://tinypic.com/r/2mmziti/6' (http://tinypic.com/r/2mmziti/6)
'http://tinypic.com/r/174yo4/6' (http://tinypic.com/r/174yo4/6)

After:
'http://tinypic.com/r/2s0mo2c/6' (http://tinypic.com/r/2s0mo2c/6)
'http://tinypic.com/r/2exwq48/6' (http://tinypic.com/r/2exwq48/6)
'http://tinypic.com/r/bimhhl/6' (http://tinypic.com/r/bimhhl/6)

Video:
'http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qt-3mJl8fc'
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qt-3mJl8fc)

Now it's on to cleaning, touching up, and clear coating.