I keep hearing about Stern making X-Men

[James Lewis]

Whats the deal on this? Does anyone know anything? If I dont find a CC I
might consider a X-Men pin if its not just another fan layout game.


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[Lloyd Olson]

Pictures soon. LTG :)

"James Lewis" <zr1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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[Tony (teekee)]

X-Men... ohhh goodie, something unique for Stern! :-)

[James Lewis]

Well if you dont find me a CC I may have to buy a X-Men.

[Tony (teekee)]

On Friday, May 25, 2012 1:45:55 PM UTC-4, James Lewis wrote:
> Well if you dont find me a CC I may have to buy a X-Men.
>

As soon as you buy your X-Men I'll find that CC for you, lol...

CC have become a difficult find.

[Nitrous]

On May 25, 10:32 am, "Lloyd Olson" <l...@ssbilliards.com> wrote:
> Pictures soon.  LTG :)
>

> "James Lewis" <zr11...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>
> news:James.Lew...@rrgparchive.com...
>
>
>
> how soon?

[Pin Lord]

On May 25, 10:40 am, "Tony (teekee)" <to...@neo.rr.com> wrote:
> X-Men... ohhh goodie, something unique for Stern!  :-)

Someone said the rumor is that is will be a mirror image of
tron...hardly unique if that's true.

[Rare Hero]

On May 25, 10:50 am, Pin Lord <rduk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Someone said the rumor is that is will be a mirror image of
> tron...hardly unique if that's true.

Every game is somewhat similar to other games....it all comes down to
how the elements work together. This game WILL be unique for Stern in
the sense that it's not tied to a movie license. It's as original as
we can get....art will be comic book style, custom dots and
music...custom toys (no off the shelf figures). I've been a bit burnt
out on Stern lately but I'm excited to see how this one turns out.

Greg

[James Lewis]

Rare Hero;1945723 Wrote:

That is why I still have SM. It isn't a collage of pixelated pics. I
hate Stern playfields.

[Pin Lord]

True...it does have the potential to be awesome if all rumors are
true. Are these rumors you listed confirmed? The custom toys is the
big one for me. If they get rid of the standard action figures and
make it real pinball mechanical toys Stern could maybe rope me back
in. The hand-drawn art not based on a movie is the next best rumor.
Gotta thank the emergence of some competition or we would be getting
more stripped down games with little to no innovation.

[Rare Hero]

On May 25, 11:07 am, James Lewis <zr11...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> That is why I still have SM. It isn't a collage of pixelated pics.

Um, yes it is....every character on Spider-Man's playfield is "cut n
paste" style from pre-existing style-guide art. Look at the Spider-
Man sitting on top of the "mode web"...see how his toes are "curled
up"? That's because that was pasted there from a style guide...had it
been original, his feet would be resting naturally...although, someone
could have altered those feet in Photoshop to make it look better.
Spidey's playfield art is the same as BDK, IM, etc... I think TSPP
might be the only Stern that is 100% custom non-style guide art. FGY
is half 'n half.

>I hate Stern playfields.

...but you don't know much about art, even though it's something you
focus heavily on. :)

Greg

[chuck]

It's not. rumors around here aren't really worth anything.

[cppinball]

There is nice CC here is St. Louis area. guy was asking $11k or so for
it. It had it for sale 3 years ago here on the group and sent 10 or so
people pics, and more pics, and had every RPG knucklehead nit picking
over stupid shit. I know that 11k was alot then but not to bad now?????.
I know he would sell it, not sure if it would still be 11k, but for
sure he wouldnt want the run around. Email me and I can send him your
info.


--
cppinball

[Mike Schudel]

I see on IPDB that Harley Davidson 3 is next. Not sure if this is a new
design or a rehash...

--
Mike S.
Kalamazoo, MI
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[James Lewis]

Rare Hero;1945748 Wrote:
> On May 25, 11:07*am, James Lewis <zr11... (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net>

> wrote:
>
> > That is why I still have SM. It isn't a collage of pixelated pics.
>
> Um, yes it is....every character on Spider-Man's playfield is "cut n
> paste" style from pre-existing style-guide art. Look at the Spider-
> Man sitting on top of the "mode web"...see how his toes are "curled
> up"? That's because that was pasted there from a style guide...had it
> been original, his feet would be resting naturally...although, someone
> could have altered those feet in Photoshop to make it look better.
> Spidey's playfield art is the same as BDK, IM, etc... I think TSPP
> might be the only Stern that is 100% custom non-style guide art. FGY
> is half 'n half.
>
> >I hate Stern playfields.
>

> ....but you don't know much about art, even though it's something you

> focus heavily on. :)
>
> Greg

You are one arrogant mother fucker. I should expect no less from a
progressive. I bet you don't have the balls to talk that way to peoples
face. Of course its cut and paste put it isn't a bunch of photographs
laid out on the PF, its animated or if that isn't the correct term its a
cartoon.

[Rare Hero]

On May 25, 12:15 pm, James Lewis <zr11...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> You are one arrogant mother fucker.

When someone else is right and uses facts to back things up, that's
not arrogance. That's education. Are you infallible? It's OK to
learn from others and say "Oh, I didn't know that...thank you very
much"

James....you're welcome. :)

>I should expect no less from a progressive.

LOL...OK....that evil dirty word, "progress" ...how awful. Why you
gotta go political, James? This is pinball...don't drag your
alternate reality into this. :)

>I bet you don't have the balls to talk that way to peoples face.

Overreact much? What exactly did I say that was so offensive? BTW,
would YOU call me a motherfucker to my face? Love they neighbor and
whatnot?

> Of course its cut and paste put it isn't a bunch of photographs
> laid out on the PF, its animated or if that isn't the correct term its a
> cartoon.

Here is your original quote:

"That is why I still have SM. It isn't a collage of pixelated pics".

Spider-Man IS a collage. All the character art is pre-existing CG or
Photoshop created product art. You can see the same Spider-Man images
on toy packages, food packages, etc. Stern took that art and placed
it around the playfield. Isn't that your definition of collage? The
Spider-Man art is not hand drawn cartoon art. The only Sterns with
that type of art are TSPP and FGY....and, allegedly the upcoming X-
Men.

Greg

[EZ SLEEZE E]

James I guess you missed all his other stupid posts. Don't worry about
it. No one reads anything he posts. He's always hijacking post because
he's got nothing real to add. #1 RGP whinier Rare Tool! Get back to
Jack in the box GREG!

[pinnaf]

ANOTHER super hero pin...... COME ON MAN... something off beat
would be cool for a change that is not SUPER HERO/MUSIC/MOVIE
related.. i like the idea that was tossed around before about a
"zombie" pin..... thats cool.

[James Lewis]

OK Ill bite.

This I don't mind:

Um, yes it is....every character on Spider-Man's playfield is "cut n
paste" style from pre-existing style-guide art. Look at the Spider-
Man sitting on top of the "mode web"...see how his toes are "curled
up"? That's because that was pasted there from a style guide...had it
been original, his feet would be resting naturally...although, someone
could have altered those feet in Photoshop to make it look better.
Spidey's playfield art is the same as BDK, IM, etc... I think TSPP
might be the only Stern that is 100% custom non-style guide art. FGY
is half 'n half.

This comes off as arrogance and rude:

...but you don't know much about art, even though it's something you
focus heavily on.

If I misunderstood, I apologize but it seems to me you could get the
meaning of what I said. Of course SM isn't hand drawn, it is artwork
taken from a file and it is a collage as all PFs are. What it isn't is a
bunch of grainy pics which is the aspect I was referring to.

I don't mind someone being smarter than me as I'll freely admit there is
a lot I don't know about but I am far from stupid and I'm not going to
let people talk to me like I am.

[ldnayman]

Gentlemen....

We've got ALL of October for partisan bickering. Now is the time to
heal.

Rarehero - you were a little condescending to our friend James. You
know how easy it is to push his buttons, and you seem to do it with
glee. That was a little over the top.

James - you showed remarkable restraint in not using the "L" word, but
you have to learn to stop "going political" at the first sign of
trouble. It's unseemly, and SURELY after 5 years on RGP you know there
are plenty of assholes of all political persuasions among us.

Now you two apologize and shake hands. It's for the best of RGP.

[James Lewis]

Neither liberal nor progressive is political, its a frame of mind or a
way of life as is conservative. It has to do with values. Political
would be Democrat or Republican or maybe Marxist, Socialist, Fascist and
other "ists" which lately there isn't much difference.

And, my buttons rarely get pushed unless it's someone talking down to me
like I'm gum on their shoe.

[chuck]

On Friday, May 25, 2012 3:48:31 PM UTC-4, EZ SLEEZE E wrote:
> James I guess you missed all my other stupid posts. Don't worry about
> it. No one reads anything I post. I'm always hijacking post because
> I've got nothing real to add. #1 RGP whinier I am! I've got to get back to
> sniffing Jet A!

fixed.

[Rare Hero]

On May 25, 1:01 pm, James Lewis <zr11...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> This comes off as arrogance and rude:
>
> ...but you don't know much about art, even though it's something you
> focus heavily on.

You deleted the smiley face...that meant I was just funnin' ya.

> If I misunderstood, I apologize but it seems to me you could get the
> meaning of what I said. Of course SM isn't hand drawn, it is artwork
> taken from a file and it is a collage as all PFs are. What it isn't is a
> bunch of grainy pics which is the aspect I was referring to.

Which games are grainy? Some Stern PFs suffer from bad color
registration...but when printed and cleared right, they're all pretty
much in the same ballpark.

> I don't mind someone being smarter than me as I'll freely admit there is
> a lot I don't know about but I am far from stupid and I'm not going to
> let people talk to me like I am.

I love you, James!!!!!

Greg

[James Lewis]

Didnt see a smiley face

I dont like the pics, I like hand drawn or at least animated

I don't drink Bud Light.

[Rare Hero]

On May 25, 2:33 pm, James Lewis <zr11...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Didnt see a smiley face

It's there. Like this :)

> I dont like the pics, I like hand drawn or at least animated

So - by animated do you mean computer rendered? Cuz, nothing is
animated on a playfield. I guess what you're saying is, you just
don't want human actors on there, right? So - like...Shrek and Avatar
are OK, because they're based on the computer renders of the
characters from the flims....but 24 and CSI are bad, because they're
using actors?

> I don't drink Bud Light.

I don't drink. :)

Greg

[Rare Hero]

Thank you, Chuck. Everything he writes is an absolutely perfect
example of "projection".

Greg

[AAPIN]

Well my Gottlieb Spiderman is all hand drawn atwork - so there! :-)

[James Lewis]

I knew it as soon as I clicked send that you were going to say that. I
very much prefer hand drawn or cartoony for lack of a better word over
"real" photos. I guess that is a preference. I do feel that Stern could
do a better job than they do even using the photos.

Explain this. You have seen the PF pics of WoZ I'm sure. Much of the
artwork on it has been taken from a file yet it looks much cleaner then
any artwork I have seen on a Stern. Why is this. I have my ideas but
since this is what you do you tell me.

[James Lewis]

AAPIN;1945870 Wrote:
> Well my Gottlieb Spiderman is all hand drawn atwork - so there! :-)

And it is a very good looking PF. I like all the artwork on the old
stuff except pointy people, eww.

[DS9]

On May 25, 12:26 pm, James Lewis <zr11...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Whats the deal on this? Does anyone know anything? If I dont find a CC I
> might consider a X-Men pin if its not just another fan layout game.
>

> --
> James Lewis
> This USENET post sent from  http://rgparchive.com

X Men cabinets have comic book art, heros on one side and villains on
the other.

[Rare Hero]

On May 25, 3:09 pm, James Lewis <zr11...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Explain this. You have seen the PF pics of WoZ I'm sure. Much of the
> artwork on it has been taken from a file yet it looks much cleaner then
> any artwork I have seen on a Stern. Why is this. I have my ideas but
> since this is what you do you tell me.

Well, as far as the cabinet goes - I think most people would say it's
Photoshop at a glance...but we know it's a painting. Jerry's
paintings are incredibly Photorealistic...they don't have much in the
way of interpretation. So - as for the playfield...honestly I'm not
sure if those are Jerry paintings, photos, or digitally altered photos
made to look more painterly. There's a lot of subtlety to handling
digital art...if it looks "better" to your eye, it could be something
subtle that Greg Freres has done compared to what Sterns artists have
done. It could be that you're comparing a raw, clean, high rez
digital file to a playfield with bad registration or clear. Here's an
example - I think LOTR is a beautiful playfield art package, even with
the real actors....I think the whole thing is well crafted and looks
great. However - I've seen SO MANY LOTR playfields with bad
registration or poor color...and had those been the only ones I had
seen, I would think the art was shitty, too.

Greg

[Rick]

I think X-men, with comic book art (read: NOT pixellated) sounds fricking AWESOME!

Wolverine-Colossus Fastball Special multiball, here I come!

[Nitrous]

On May 25, 4:48 pm, Rick <rkha...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I think X-men, with comic book art (read: NOT pixellated) sounds fricking AWESOME!
>
> Wolverine-Colossus Fastball Special multiball, here I come!

Sounds like this pin is going to be BADASS based on reports on
pinside. Supposedly Borg's best, awesome art package, and Stern's most
ball interactive pin with 5 cool toys?! Can't wait!