OT: Gasoline Quality. SHOCKING INFO IF YOU LIVE IN PA!
Classic Arcades Inc.
stations are selling. In fact, you may be getting 87 octane through a
93 octane hose. Our local news team went undercover and found several
stations in our area selling low octane gas through a high octane
pump. The last time the octane testing bill was brought up it was
voted down. It is up again for vote. PLEASE write to your senators to
pass the octane testing bill so these crooks can be stopped.
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I-Team Update: Gas Quality Not Guaranteed
Reported by: Jeff Chirico
Friday, May 16, 2008 @05:38pm EST
WILKES-BARRE TOWNSHIP, LUZERNE COUNTY --One year ago this week the
WBRE I-Team revealed shocking news about the quality of gasoline we
buy. A test showed some fuel does not contain the octane level
advertised on the pump. And in Pennsylvania there are no inspectors to
check that. Consumer reporter Jeff Chirico first brought us this
investigation last May.
With the rising cost of gasoline this issue is even more important
than when we first brought it to you last year. We pay among the
highest gas taxes in the nation yet Pennsylvania is one of only four
states that don't provide for octane inspections. That means, next
time you fill up, you may not be getting what you're paying for.
“That kind of gets me upset a little bit there."
Drivers we spoke with had no idea no one inspects octane levels at
Pennsylvania pumps.
Jonathan lazarchick/Wilkes-Barre
"That could be watered down and stuff." It means we could be wasting
money.
Lower quality could also damage cars that need high octane.
Joe Kipp/Ontario
"Why would I come here, put in 92 octane and maybe I'm getting 90.
What's the point of having sticker here?"
Last May, the I-Team tested random samples of gasoline. Two of the
three had a lower level octane than advertised on the pump. Experts
say it's easy for stations and distributors to water down gasoline and
there's big profit to be made.
“They should be doing something to make sure people are getting proper
gas for vehicles."
Lawmakers have started.
Rep. Mike Carroll (D) District 118
"The house with my support has approved this bill"
But representative Mike Carroll of Luzerne and Monroe counties says
it's now up to the Senate. But it's been stalled there for nearly 11
months. Meanwhile, we pump more and more of our cash into a product
that may not be what we thought.
An aide to Senator Lisa Boscola tells me he doesn't think it's going
to pass because it's too expensive and some senator's aren't convinced
there's a need for it.
The auditor general's office did a random survey of some pumps. 99
percent passed. But that was in 1999 --when gas cost 99 cents a
gallon. Time is ticking. If the Senate's going to act, it will happen
before the end of June.
Jeff
Classic Arcades Inc
seymour...@excite.com
> PA Has no system in place to monitor the octane level gasoline
> stations are selling. In fact, you may be getting 87 octane through a
> 93 octane hose. Our local news team went undercover and found several
> stations in our area selling low octane gas through a high octane
> pump. The last time the octane testing bill was brought up it was
> voted down. It is up again for vote. PLEASE write to your senators to
> pass the octane testing bill so these crooks can be stopped.
>
That's why I get my gas in Jersey cheaper too.....
-scott CARGPB#29
someotherguy
Very few vehicles *require* high octane fuel. Just high performance cars and
most air-cooled bikes. (read: Harleys)
If you're one of the people sold on the myth that higher octane fuel makes your
car run better (except in the few cases where it IS required, see your owner's
manual) or the fuel is cleaner, you've been fooled out of your hard-earned
money. If your vehicle was designed to run on regular 87 octane fuel, using
anything higher is a waste of money. Not only does it achieve ZERO benefit, it
can actually have a slight (likely imperceptible) decrease in power - the higher
the octane, the less volatile the fuel is, making it harder to burn. If you
don't believe me, ask others who know. The only, and I mean only thing that
higher octane is designed to do is to be harder to ignite; in higher compression
engines this means it is less likely to combust due solely to compression - in
those engines, lower octane fuel will pre-ignite, causing spark knock. And on
that note, if your vehicle that normally requires 87 octane is pinging on 87,
don't move up a grade - spend the money on fixing your car; your wallet and
engine will benefit more in the long run. Happy motoring...
Richard
>典hat kind of gets me upset a little bit there."
>
>Drivers we spoke with had no idea no one inspects octane levels at
>Pennsylvania pumps.
>
>Jonathan lazarchick/Wilkes-Barre
>
>"That could be watered down and stuff." It means we could be wasting
>money.
>
>Lower quality could also damage cars that need high octane.
>
>Joe Kipp/Ontario
>
>"Why would I come here, put in 92 octane and maybe I'm getting 90.
>What's the point of having sticker here?"
>
>Last May, the I-Team tested random samples of gasoline. Two of the
>three had a lower level octane than advertised on the pump. Experts
>say it's easy for stations and distributors to water down gasoline and
>there's big profit to be made.
>
>典hey should be doing something to make sure people are getting proper
mnpinball
Many consumers automatically assume that they should use the most
expensive gasoline because it will make their vehicles perform better.
High-octane gas can cost an additional twenty cents per gallon, and
sometimes consumers doubt whether or not they really need to pay for
the more expensive, high-octane gas. Believe it or not, in most cases
you really don’t need to buy high-octane gas.
The Exception, Not The Rule
There percentage of cars that require or benefit from high-octane gas
is relatively small and these cars have engines that are specifically
designed to benefit from higher-octane gasoline. Keep in mind that
just because a gasoline is labeled “high-octane” and costs more does
not necessarily mean it is better for your car. Buying high-octane gas
is not going to give you better gas mileage which is a common
misconception and if your car wasn’t made to operate on high-octane
gasoline, there’s really no reason for you to fork over the extra cash
for it.
Read The Book
If you are unsure whether or not you should buy high-octane gas for
your car, you should consult your vehicle’s manual that you received
when you purchased the car. Your owner’s manual should clearly
indicate what type of gasoline is recommended for your vehicle and you
should probably stick with whatever gasoline is suggested. There is no
need to buy a higher-octane gas than what your manufacturer
recommends.
Sometimes It Matters
There are instances where a higher-octane gas will be better for your
car -- such is the case with older engines. For older engines, high-
octane gasoline is usually not required but can make your car run more
smoothly. For newer cars, your best bet is to follow the
manufacturer’s recommendation.
des...@gmail.com
heh...all right, so what if their octane meters are dropping below 70
at the pump, with nobody to enforce it, then what do you do or how do
you know it's not the 87 your car needs?
dino...@yahoo.com
Jeff,
Thanks very much for that info. Though in most cases it doesn't make a
difference I am one of the few were it does. My car is specifically
tuned for 93 Octane. It will run like crap with even 91 Octane. I
don't even want to know what it will do with 89 or 87.
I'll make sure to fill up in MD before the York show.
Dino
www.thetheos.com