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Eric A.

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Feb 17, 2003, 1:28:39 AM2/17/03
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No really I am!!!!!

I was doing a mylar removal on my day one mylar High Speed, this thing
was friggin' beautiful, I was going to take it to Expo this year! I
use the hot air gun and it comes up like a dream, colors are even
brighter than I hoped!! Unfortunately, it leaves the regular tough
glue on the playfield and I do the goo gone with the paper towel thing
and then move on to VM&P Naptha and finally on to goof off!

Nothing is working on this machine! I finally decide to heat up the
playfield a little to soften up the glue, hopefully.

I take the PROPANE torch, don't ask me why, I don't know.....(why
didn't I use the hot air gun, I did it wasn't working fast enough, but
it was working)

Well needless to say I got about 30 seconds of heating it up and
POOF!!!!! HOLY CRAP!!!! Black smoke rising, tripping over the dog, and
grabbing the bucket of soapy water that I used yesterday to wipe down
the cabinet and throwing it all over the playfield only caused the
flame to roll to the underside of the playfiled! Now I'm dousing it
out with a rag trying to blow out the remains of the flames and the
fuel slick accumulating in the bottom by the coin tray.

Aired the house out, friggin' freezing now! Stripped the playfield
bare in the hopes of doing an overlay or who knows anybody have a
playfield for sale? God I'm stupid! Lets just say at this point Jesus
wouldn't be playing my High Speed!

Did I mention I'm stupid?!?!?!? Mr. coil sleeves ain't got nothing on
me! I wonder if home-owners insc. will cover this? I hope I don't have
a dummy clause.

Excuse me I have to go to bed now and cry myself to sleep....

Eric A.

P.S. Did I mention I'm STUPID?!?!?!?!?

Ldnayman

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Feb 17, 2003, 1:36:49 AM2/17/03
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Please people, for the love of god or any other deity you worship, PLEASE give
"just leave it alone" a chance. I would never attempt to remove mylar unless
there was simply no choice.

<< ubject: I'm the dumbest person in the world!
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No really I am!!!!! >>

Jesse K.

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Feb 17, 2003, 1:40:59 AM2/17/03
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Holy Shit :(

I am VERY sorry to hear about that! Somebody please help this guy get a new playfield. I hope
you'll be able to sleep tonight.

Take care,

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Jesse K.

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Feb 17, 2003, 1:42:33 AM2/17/03
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I've had no major problems removing mylar. The proper method works for most people.


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Eric A.

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After reading your reply I'm crying and laughing right now!!!!

O" for the love of GOD why do I do the things I do!!!!!!

Eric A.

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Aeneas

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thanks for the laugh :-))
sorry about your loss (really)

do you have any pictures ?

ciao,

Aeneas.


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Randy P.

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Feb 17, 2003, 2:01:29 AM2/17/03
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Hey Eric,

Rest assured, we have *all* done incredibly, incomprehensively stupid things
in our lives. Be glad your error didn't get anyone injured or killed.
Burning up a playfield is actually pretty small potatoes on the "what could
have happened" scale.

Stupid stupid stupid? Yes.
You'll find a new playfield? Hopefully.
Wiser today than yesterday? Certainly.
Lesson learned and life goes on? Absolutely.

I *guarantee* you'll hurt less in the morning. Take two Tylenol PM, sleep
well, and tomorrow tackle this as a new project. Not as picking up the
pieces of a horrible blunder, but as resurrecting a machine to like-new
condition.

Randy

P.S. Don't be afraid to do another Mylar removal -- but you've gotta try the
freeze spray method -- you'll be amazed (but don't rush it). Then use
*only* Goo Gone to remove the glue -- just give it plenty of time to soften
the glue, and plenty of elbow grease and towels.

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Wil

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Feb 17, 2003, 2:08:34 AM2/17/03
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Question now is, not how bad the pf is damaged....but did you ruin everything under it by putting
the water on it? Its interesting to see the sides of the propane boxes, where they show a guy
removing paint from his old shingles.....wonder how many people burn their houses down doing that?
Why on earth didnt you try the freeze spray method????

Wil

scottmax69

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Feb 17, 2003, 2:27:07 AM2/17/03
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>sorry about your loss (really)
>
>do you have any pictures ?
>
> ciao,
>
> Aeneas.

sorry about your loss???????????/
DO YOU HAVE ANY PICTURES???????
Give the man a chance to mourn.

about a day,then ask for pictures ;)

Sorry to hear it Eric,at least you were big enough to post it, and you may save
somebody else from making the same mistake.

Scott

Julian Hepworth

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Feb 17, 2003, 4:16:25 AM2/17/03
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Well said - everyone makes mistake, but not everyone can admit to them.

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Aeneas Verhe

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ldna...@aol.comnospam (Ldnayman) wrote in message news:<20030217013649...@mb-bk.aol.com>...

> Please people, for the love of god or any other deity you worship, PLEASE give
> "just leave it alone" a chance. I would never attempt to remove mylar unless
> there was simply no choice.
>

Also shows if you have a workbench or room you work in,
put the material in 2 parts:

- the non-harmful tools you regulary use: have them by hand

- all other tools which may be harmful and which you shouldn't use
for cleaning/shopping a pin: lock them up, keep them in another room,
somewhere out of sight.
This way you won't be grabbing something 'lets try this' because you
see it and don't think about the causes. Each time you'll have to get
something like this, the extra effort of unlocking/.. should make you
think if you really need it and why.

ciao,

Aeneas.

Eric A.

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Feb 17, 2003, 8:15:48 AM2/17/03
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I already had the mylar off and was trying to remove the glue.

Eric A.

Eric A.

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Feb 17, 2003, 8:19:29 AM2/17/03
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How would I save somebody from the same mistake?!?!?!? I don't think
there is anybody that stupid on the face of this planet!

Man it was the nicest H.S. playfield I had ever seen too! I probably
would have clearcoated it too!

Eric A.

John Wart, jr

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Feb 17, 2003, 8:19:29 AM2/17/03
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Sigh, 2nd High Speed PF someone either used or was going to use Goof Off on,
when the CORRECT solvent is Goo Gone...

Sorry for your loss, though.

--john
Who is still looking for a NOS High Speed backglass to go with his NOS High
Speed playfield

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Eric A.

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Feb 17, 2003, 8:23:20 AM2/17/03
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On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 07:08:34 GMT, Wil <w...@subdural.com> wrote:

>Question now is, not how bad the pf is damaged....but did you ruin everything under it by putting
>the water on it? Its interesting to see the sides of the propane boxes, where they show a guy
>removing paint from his old shingles.....wonder how many people burn their houses down doing that?
>Why on earth didnt you try the freeze spray method????
>
>Wil
>

Nothing else is ruined all the water drained off and only about 5 or 6
wires that I had sticking through the top melted.

Eric A.

Eric A.

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Feb 17, 2003, 8:20:35 AM2/17/03
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Wanna sell your N.O.S. HS Playfield?

Eric A.

Clive Jones

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Feb 17, 2003, 8:32:39 AM2/17/03
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Eric A. wrote:
> No really I am!!!!!
>
> I was doing a mylar removal on my day one mylar High Speed, this thing
> was friggin' beautiful, I was going to take it to Expo this year! I
> use the hot air gun and it comes up like a dream, colors are even
> brighter than I hoped!! Unfortunately, it leaves the regular tough
> glue on the playfield and I do the goo gone with the paper towel thing
> and then move on to VM&P Naptha and finally on to goof off!
>
<snip>

You've got some guts to admit to this, Eric. Most people would not,
methinks. Bravo!

BTW, High Speed is quite a hot game, it's been received very warmly here
in RGP.

Okay. No flames, please...

-C.

Mark Orthner

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Feb 17, 2003, 8:34:52 AM2/17/03
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I'm glad you're safe, but geez, wiping your playfield down with what is
essentially lighter fluid, then setting a propane torch to it! I don't even
keep the rags in the trashcan more than a few hours before taking them
outside due to how flammable this stuff is.. Please, don't ever work with
power tools or high voltage or we'll be reading your obit...<g>!

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John Wart, jr

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Feb 17, 2003, 8:39:26 AM2/17/03
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I've considered selling all my High Speed stuff more than once, including
the following:
1 completely working except for beacon, but very rough High Speed machine
1 spare cabinet and head, in various stages of repair/stenciling for repaint
NOS Playfield, NOS Plastics set, including a NOS but warped header (think
it'll straighten out)
Alan Meyer repro breakable plastics set

But, I've got more invested then a nice High Speed goes for, so the chances
of getting my investment out are slim to none.

If someone made the right trade or cash offer, I'd consider it, but I'm not
looking to sell at this moment, it took 18+ months to find the NOS playfield
I've got.

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Eric A.

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Feb 17, 2003, 8:53:17 AM2/17/03
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That was rough Clive, No Flames?!?!?!? LOL!

Oh God, please help me...........


Eric A.

Eric A.

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Feb 17, 2003, 8:54:25 AM2/17/03
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Guess what I do for a living? I'm an electrician! Go figure that one
out!

Why oh why am I so stupid!!!!!

Eric A.

Eric A.

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Feb 17, 2003, 9:05:26 AM2/17/03
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On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 06:50:20 GMT, Aeneas <ave...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>thanks for the laugh :-))
>sorry about your loss (really)
>
>do you have any pictures ?
>
> ciao,
>
> Aeneas.
>
>

Here are your pics....a before and after.

Before:
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/eavedesian/DSCF0166.JPG

no usual wear because it had day one mylar. God I'm soooooo stupid!!!!

After:
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/eavedesian/DSCF0182.JPG

I guess I could sell it on EBAY with the header of good candidate for
an overlay.......

Or how bout working before I torched it?!?!?!?!?

Eric A.

Rick Swanson

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Feb 17, 2003, 9:33:48 AM2/17/03
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Eric - Believe me... I feel your pain. Now that there are two of us, we
should start a club. I suggest we call it the "Best of Intentions Club",
or BIC for short. Come to think of it, BIC is frequently associated with
cigarette lighters so maybe we had better come up with a name that
doesn't evoke images of fire. ;-)


Rick Swanson

Morristown, TN
CARGPB#6
Coil Boy and Garage Door Dismantler

Clive Jones

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Feb 17, 2003, 9:22:33 AM2/17/03
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Eric A. wrote:
<snip>

> Here are your pics....a before and after.
>
> Before:
> http://mywebpages.comcast.net/eavedesian/DSCF0166.JPG
>
> no usual wear because it had day one mylar. God I'm soooooo stupid!!!!
>
> After:
> http://mywebpages.comcast.net/eavedesian/DSCF0182.JPG
>

Holy smoke!

> I guess I could sell it on EBAY with the header of good candidate for
> an overlay.......
>

If an item gets a lot of bids on Ebay, it's regarded as 'hot' and a
small 'lit match' icon appears next to your listing. Now *that* would be
ironic! ;)

-C.


mieze

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Feb 17, 2003, 9:33:42 AM2/17/03
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OH MY GOD!!!
how terrible!
maybe you can saw it in little pieces and all of us buy a small part to
remind us wha not to do, and you can use the money to get your hands on a
new playfield :)

"Eric A." schreef:

GoosePimp

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FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
KKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Portland, OR
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Wil

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OMFG that was brutal..... Please, dont let him near a NOS playfield for
this game! :) Someone send him a nice slightly used pf, tho :)

Thanks

Wil

Larry

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ldna...@aol.comnospam (Ldnayman) wrote in message news:<20030217013649...@mb-bk.aol.com>...
> Please people, for the love of god or any other deity you worship, PLEASE give
> "just leave it alone" a chance. I would never attempt to remove mylar unless
> there was simply no choice.

Can't agree.. if done properly, pulling mylar can make a game look
much better, and play much better. I'm installing a
demylared/clearcoated Funhouse playfield in a cabinet, and it looks
real nice. Don't pull it unless you're willing to accept the risks,
of course.

Dr. Dave

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Looks a bit.....er.......well done. ; )


DR


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Eric A.

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Feb 17, 2003, 11:10:53 AM2/17/03
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Man that's rough! I promise I will never come close to a playfield
with a torch again if somebody hooks me up with a playfield!

Guess what was sitting in the bottom of the coin tray? Alan Meyer's
repro plastic set and his spinner stickers and a N.O.S. Traffic light
cover. Guess which melted?!?!?!?

Yep the N.O.S. traffic light cover.
This day just keeps getting better and better!

Eric A.

Rick Swanson

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Feb 17, 2003, 11:33:40 AM2/17/03
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Holly Crap!!!!!! I'm afraid that playfield is pretty much an "organ
donor" at this point. I doubt that even Bill Davis could save it.
Although I would like to see the look on his face if you sent it to him
with a note attached that simply said "Please clearcoat this playfield..
feel free to do any touchups you think necessary". ;-)

Rick Swanson

Morristown, TN
CARGPB#6

Eric A.

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Feb 17, 2003, 11:21:28 AM2/17/03
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I needed that! Thanks Rick!

Eric A.

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Eric A.

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300.00? It isn't populated right?

Eric A.

Bill McCord

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Rick,
How about the "Good Intentions Gone Wrong" GIGR Club?

Bill...
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GoosePimp

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Eric,

You can't buy this kind of entertainment at any price!

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Pinball John

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Were you watching those top tapes where they lit the playfield on fire?
Its not a step by step thing..

I dont think you let the goo gone do its work.. should have put it
down, then put down a soaking paper of it.. and let it sit for 40 mins
or so.. making sure it stays nice and moist..

Please have patience.
Dont they make overlays for this game.. be careful with them. .:)

pJ

Smoke 'em if you got em.


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bobukcat

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After looking at that I am very sick to my stomach, I may have to go puke!!

My condolences :-(

Bob K.


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Rick Swanson

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Bill McCord wrote:

> Rick,
> How about the "Good Intentions Gone Wrong" GIGR Club?

Or, the "Fatal Unintended Causations Knowing Utilized Precipitously" Club...
yes, the F**KUP Club. ;-)

Cliffy

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Oh man... sorry Eric <:-(

--
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(CARGPB2)
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Rick Swanson

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Rick Swanson wrote:

> Bill McCord wrote:
>
> > Rick,
> > How about the "Good Intentions Gone Wrong" GIGR Club?
>
> Or, the "Fatal Unintended Causations Knowing Utilized Precipitously" Club...
> yes, the F**KUP Club. ;-)
>

"Knowingly " not "Knowing"... I think I just achieved a "F**KUP" f**kup.

Donnie Barnes

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> Holly Crap!!!!!! I'm afraid that playfield is pretty much an "organ
> donor" at this point. I doubt that even Bill Davis could save it.
> Although I would like to see the look on his face if you sent it to him
> with a note attached that simply said "Please clearcoat this playfield..
> feel free to do any touchups you think necessary". ;-)

Also add "And I need it back by next week."


--Donnie

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Donnie Barnes

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> Holly Crap!!!!!! I'm afraid that playfield is pretty much an "organ
> donor" at this point. I doubt that even Bill Davis could save it.
> Although I would like to see the look on his face if you sent it to him
> with a note attached that simply said "Please clearcoat this playfield..
> feel free to do any touchups you think necessary". ;-)

Add to that note "My budget is $150 for this project. Thanks." Do not,
whatever you do, include your phone number with the note, though. ;-)

The Korn

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Eric A. <eaved...@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<o6v05vkgjii7q5ihb...@4ax.com>...

> Did I mention I'm stupid?!?!?!? Mr. coil sleeves ain't got nothing on
> me! I wonder if home-owners insc. will cover this? I hope I don't have
> a dummy clause.
>
> Excuse me I have to go to bed now and cry myself to sleep....
>
> Eric A.
>
> P.S. Did I mention I'm STUPID?!?!?!?!?

Man, I feel for ya. Reminds me of the time I was trying to reset an
insert on my high speed with a _real_ hammer. :)

Good luck!

Roy Fash

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Maybe you should use "fresh off route" in your Ebay description? That can
cover all kinds of abuse!

Roy

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> On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 06:50:20 GMT, Aeneas > Here are your pics....a before

The Korn

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> Also shows if you have a workbench or room you work in,
> put the material in 2 parts:
>
> - the non-harmful tools you regulary use: have them by hand
>
> - all other tools which may be harmful and which you shouldn't use
> for cleaning/shopping a pin: lock them up, keep them in another room,
> somewhere out of sight.
> This way you won't be grabbing something 'lets try this' because you
> see it and don't think about the causes. Each time you'll have to get
> something like this, the extra effort of unlocking/.. should make you
> think if you really need it and why.

I'd like to take a moment to plug the two most important things in
_my_ shop:

1) Working smoke detector IN THAT ROOM

2) Working (and charged!) fire extinguisher IN THAT ROOM

No proper pinball tech/collector should be without EITHER of these!
Even if you never have to use them, there's always the chance that you
_might_ have to. (And no sharing extinguishers between the kitchen
and the pinball room; they're cheap enough that you should buy one for
each!)

mieze

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sell it to FUN, maybe he can sell it away thru ebay ' slightly worn' :D

Roy Fash schreef:

Wolff Tim

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You'd better submit those pictures and story to
http://www.scary-game-awards.com
Maybe a prize or at least an honorable mention will help soot the pain


--
Tim Wolff,
Belgium, Europe

Spr*ngbreak, R*bo-Wars, Bl*ckwater 100, V*ctor

The Korn

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Rick Swanson <rns...@charter.net> wrote in message news:<3E50EEE4...@charter.net>...
> Eric - Believe me... I feel your pain. Now that there are two of us, we
> should start a club. I suggest we call it the "Best of Intentions Club",
> or BIC for short. Come to think of it, BIC is frequently associated with
> cigarette lighters so maybe we had better come up with a name that
> doesn't evoke images of fire. ;-)

Might I suggest the "DIMWIHDT" club?

"_Damn_ I'M Wishin' I Hadn't Done That!!"

:)

I bestow the official DIMWIHDT #0001 (lots of room to grow!) label to
myself. DIMWIHDT #0002 goes to Ricky over there (livin' la vida
swanson). DIMWIHDT #0003 to Hot Dog over there, who (rumor has it) is
soon to be the owner of "Flamin' Eric's" over on 54th & Crawford. :)

Lloyd Olson

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Feb 17, 2003, 2:24:24 PM2/17/03
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Well I could go into things like what the F were you thinking ? Ignoring the
machine, you were putting you life in risk, your house in danger, and anyone
in it in danger. Worse case scenario you could be sitting in jail right now
looking at some serious charges. But I'm sure you've punished yourself enough
already. And I'm sure you learned, though it was an expensive lesson.

Now I'd call your insurance agent and see if you are covered. And if you get a
new playfield out of this, when your game is all back together again and you
are playing it, please be careful, we don't want to lose you on your next
repair. LTG :)


Ron Strom

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Yep, without a doubt!

Well... maybe not. A PF is nothing, I once set fire to my entire upper body.
--
Ron -- CARGPB7 - (Change hot to ice for reply)

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> No really I am!!!!!
>
> I was doing a mylar removal on my day one mylar High Speed, this thing
> was friggin' beautiful, I was going to take it to Expo this year! I
> use the hot air gun and it comes up like a dream, colors are even
> brighter than I hoped!! Unfortunately, it leaves the regular tough
> glue on the playfield and I do the goo gone with the paper towel thing
> and then move on to VM&P Naptha and finally on to goof off!
>
> Nothing is working on this machine! I finally decide to heat up the
> playfield a little to soften up the glue, hopefully.
>
> I take the PROPANE torch, don't ask me why, I don't know.....(why
> didn't I use the hot air gun, I did it wasn't working fast enough, but
> it was working)
>
> Well needless to say I got about 30 seconds of heating it up and
> POOF!!!!! HOLY CRAP!!!! Black smoke rising, tripping over the dog, and
> grabbing the bucket of soapy water that I used yesterday to wipe down
> the cabinet and throwing it all over the playfield only caused the
> flame to roll to the underside of the playfiled! Now I'm dousing it
> out with a rag trying to blow out the remains of the flames and the
> fuel slick accumulating in the bottom by the coin tray.
>
> Aired the house out, friggin' freezing now! Stripped the playfield
> bare in the hopes of doing an overlay or who knows anybody have a
> playfield for sale? God I'm stupid! Lets just say at this point Jesus
> wouldn't be playing my High Speed!
>

Lloyd Olson

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Was this an accident or a ritual or something kinky ? LTG :)

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Rick Swanson

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Lloyd Olson wrote:

> ....Now I'd call your insurance agent and see if you are covered....

Boy, I'd sure like to hear *that* conversation. I imagine it would go something
like this:

Agent - "So let me get this straight Eric... first you drenched this machine in
lighter fluid and then you took a blowtorch to it."

Eric - "Yep."

Agent - "And when you hit the machine with the blowtorch it burst into flames."

Eric - "Yep."

Agent - "And you think the ensuing fire was an 'accident' or a 'act of God' that
should be covered by your policy?"

Eric - "Yep."

Agent - "Well Eric, I'm afraid I'm gonna have to ask you to leave my office right
now and to never contact me again... is that understood?"

Eric - "Yep."

Clive Jones

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Ron Strom wrote:
> Yep, without a doubt!
>
> Well... maybe not. A PF is nothing, I once set fire to my entire upper body.

Uh! I'm not even going to ask... ;)


Clive

Ron Strom

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Been there, done that huh Rick? :-)

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In article <3E513DB0...@charter.net>, rns...@charter.net says...

Ron Strom

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Nothing that stupid can be an accident. My only excuse is I was about 16 or
17.

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In article <GYa4a.57387$zF6.3...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
l...@ssbilliards.com says...

Lloyd Olson

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Homeowners policy is for dummies. I wouldn't volunteer too much info here. A
simple cleaning glue residue off a playfield and had a fire is enough, but if
asked don't lie.

They will be happy they aren't replacing a house, and believe me ( I had a
friend's wife worked in a claims department and got to hear good ones ) you
are no where near the dumbest claim they'll ever hear. LTG :)

Rick Swanson <rns...@charter.net> wrote in message

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Mark Clayton

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Eric:

Well, I guess that's what Satan would play.

Condolences,
-Mark

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GoosePimp

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Korn NEEDS a fire extinguisher to combat the inherent challenges with his
monster mods. Maybe you should do an episode of Monster Garage?
--

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Aron Boag

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Eric A. <eaved...@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<gkq15v84v486fn94s...@4ax.com>...
> On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 06:50:20 GMT, Aeneas <ave...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >thanks for the laugh :-))
> >sorry about your loss (really)
> >
> >do you have any pictures ?
> >
> > ciao,
> >
> > Aeneas.
> >
> >
> Here are your pics....a before and after.
>
> Before:
> http://mywebpages.comcast.net/eavedesian/DSCF0166.JPG
>
> no usual wear because it had day one mylar. God I'm soooooo stupid!!!!
>
> After:
> http://mywebpages.comcast.net/eavedesian/DSCF0182.JPG

Eric, buddy, pal-o'-mine. I just want to thank you for sharing both
your story and your pics.

When I read your story, I was greatly saddened. I know it hurts like
bamboo under the fingernails when something like this happens, and you
just wish that you were an ostrich, so that you could quite easily
bury your head in the sand. As I read your story, I felt pain for
you. When I saw the pics, I looked at the before pic first,
obviously. You're right...that's one *very* nice HS playfield there.
I again went into "grieving for a friend's loss" mode.

However, when I saw that after pic, I nearly laughed myself into
various stages of coronary seizure! Oh my gosh, Eric, I'm telling
you, it may be a costly error, but the *mileage* you can get out of
that story with those *pics* is just unfathomable. I'm *still*
laughing at that picture. Your story didn't provide enough detail
into just how badly the playfield got burned...I thought that there
may have been some damage that took the playfield from "Near-mint' to
"Just okay". Rather, that little fire did enough damage to take that
playfield from "Near-mint" to "Got snot-slinging drunk and gave it to
my little brother's Cub Scout group so that they could make s'mores
over it on their weekend camping trip to Lake Woebegone". That's a
category that I don't even think has been *invented* until you came
along! I'm *really* not trying to pour salt in the wound here, Eric.
I'm *trying* to help you see JUST HOW STINKING FUNNY this really is.
I mean, yeah, I might not see it as humorously on your side of the
fence, but trust me...you're going to look back at that playfield
(you're *never* going to let yourself sell it or trash it...it's just
too good...) and laugh your face off in the not-too-distant future.

Eric, my friend, I feel some of your pain, and I'm dreadfully sorry
that this happened. However, I'm *so glad* that you shared this with
us. It's a painful reminder, but it's *also* one humdinger of a
*great* pinball story.

Don't be surprised if you get a call from Clay asking if he can use
your playfield in a future TOP tape as an example of what happens
"When Things Go Wrong". I understand that Fox is doing a special on
it pretty soon.

Good luck, Eric. Thanks again.


Aron (who, while also stupid, has yet to cause serious injury to
himself or his collection...key word here: yet)

Rick Swanson

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Ron Strom wrote:

> Been there, done that huh Rick? :-)
> --

Ooohhhh yeaaaahhhh!!!! ;-)

Chris King

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Is that "ooohhhh yeaaaahhh baby" said in an Austin Powers voice?

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abc123...@iquest.net

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I don't know why, but when I saw your damaged playfield I gained a
whole new appreciation for my games...
I can't imagine how bad you must feel. Hopefully, someone has an
extra NOS HS playfield and will sell it to you. You need a "lift-me-up" about
now...

Jeff

In article <gkq15v84v486fn94s...@4ax.com>, Eric A.
<eaved...@comcast.net> wrote:
>After:
>http://mywebpages.comcast.net/eavedesian/DSCF0182.JPG


ceegary

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My condolences. When I was a kid I set my sister alight....(got a live
sparkler caught in her coat). Not as much fun as my friend.....We used to
celebrate Guy Fawkes Day by all getting together with fireworks and then
setting them all off. So there they all were, on table in the garage when my
friend threw in a Jumping Jack...yep you got it. Had to close the door as
every single flipping firework went off in the garage...rockets flying
briefly before impacting the wall, roman candles, oh the works it was pretty
spectacular. Was sure glad it wasn't me....(I'm also glad it wasn't my
playfield). I'd put up a buck or two for a fund to replace the pf.....
GRY

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Mark Dreher

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Eric,
Sorry about your loss, I saw this post this morning and spent half of
the day in amazement over those pictures. I hope you can find a
replacement playfield. This will be a great learning experience story to
share for years to come. I think this may be the start of an urban legend
one day.

Mark

Mark Dreher

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That is hysterical. Thanks for the laugh Rick

Mark

Warren McCulloch

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Feb 17, 2003, 8:23:18 PM2/17/03
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Maybe you could donate the pf to David Eisner so he can do some insert
decals.

Warren.

"bobukcat" <bobu...@NOSPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
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> After looking at that I am very sick to my stomach, I may have to go
puke!!
>
> My condolences :-(
>
> Bob K.


>
>
> "Eric A." <eaved...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:gkq15v84v486fn94s...@4ax.com...
> > On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 06:50:20 GMT, Aeneas <ave...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >thanks for the laugh :-))
> > >sorry about your loss (really)
> > >
> > >do you have any pictures ?
> > >
> > > ciao,
> > >
> > > Aeneas.
> > >
> > >
> > Here are your pics....a before and after.
> >
> > Before:
> > http://mywebpages.comcast.net/eavedesian/DSCF0166.JPG
> >
> > no usual wear because it had day one mylar. God I'm soooooo stupid!!!!
> >
> > After:
> > http://mywebpages.comcast.net/eavedesian/DSCF0182.JPG
> >

rosh

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You are missing the silver linning. This clearly puts you in the lead for
this years "Rick Swanson Award"

Seriously, thanks for sharing, I'm sure many playfields were saved today as
a result.


Eric A.

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Feb 17, 2003, 11:46:52 PM2/17/03
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Yeah right! Thanks for trying to make me feel better though!

Eric A.

Eric A.

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Feb 17, 2003, 11:49:10 PM2/17/03
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Rick I showed the guys at work this conversation and you know
what?!?!? Some guy actually pissed his pants!!

They all know me too well and the sad thing is, this will probably be
not too far off from the truth when the agent comes here tomorrow.

Wish me luck!

Eric A.

On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 15:10:56 -0500, Rick Swanson <rns...@charter.net>
wrote:

Rick Swanson

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If I'm successful in landing corporate sponsorship for this award, you'll be
*begging* to win this trophy! I'll have you know that Planters Peanut
Company is *very* interested. Eric, you may be the very first recipient of the
"Nut Cup". ;-)


Rick Swanson

Morristown, TN
CARGPB#6

scottmax69

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>Eric, you may be the very first recipient of the
>"Nut Cup". ;-)

I think it's a little too late for an athletic protector. That blow has already
been delivered. :)

Scott

Cliffy

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Oh come ON!! LLOYD!? Now if *I* would have said this.... :P

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Lloyd Olson

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It would have been funnier. You just have a better delivery, what can I say ?
LTG :)

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scottmax69

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>Oh come ON!! LLOYD!? Now if *I* would have said this.... :P

Aw,your just jealous you didn't think of it first. ;)

see Cliffy running to Lloyd
" I'M GONNA TELL!!" "I'M GONNA TELL!!"

Ron Strom

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Thankfully not in the lead for the Darwin award :)

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In article <93i4a.147198$tq4.4578@sccrnsc01>, ro...@yahoo.com says...

Donnie Barnes

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> Homeowners policy is for dummies. I wouldn't volunteer too much info here. A
> simple cleaning glue residue off a playfield and had a fire is enough, but if
> asked don't lie.
>
> They will be happy they aren't replacing a house, and believe me ( I had a
> friend's wife worked in a claims department and got to hear good ones ) you
> are no where near the dumbest claim they'll ever hear. LTG :)

But if you do pursue this, ask about claim limits. Many policies only
allow a certain amount of claims (as few as one or two in some cases),
so make sure you aren't "burning" a claim (heh) with something relatively
low cost enough that you lose an opportunity down the road for a larger
one.


--Donnie

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Barrywnj

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Also with your deductible, and the chance for premium increases, highly
unlikely it would pay to make a claim.

Rick Swanson

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scottmax69 wrote:

Yep... the nice thing about the "Nut Cup" trophy is that it could be awarded for
that pinball related move which is either the most "crazy" or the most "ballsey".

Eric A.

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WAHOOOOOOOOO!!!! No increase in insurance and a N.O.S. playfield! If I
do the work myself they'll pay me! Go figure?!?!?!?
Eric A.
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mieze

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Feb 18, 2003, 11:46:38 AM2/18/03
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congratulations!!!!! you have a good insurance policy!

"Eric A." schreef:

Rick Swanson

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"Eric A." wrote:

> ..... If I
> do the work myself they'll pay me! .....

HOLY CRAP!!!! You mean they will pay you for the time it takes to do the
playfield swap?!?!? Dang... now *that's* what I call a good insurance
policy.

BTW - Did you take my advice and tell the agent that it was a one armed man
who broke into your house, raped your dog and then set fire to you pinball
machine? ;-)

rosh

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Feb 18, 2003, 11:20:18 PM2/18/03
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one more really dumb move, like feeding the fire with more fuel, could have
gotten him on his way to a Darwin nomination.


Cliffy

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Ahhhhhh revoise psykologee eh? nyuk nyuk nyuk =)

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Wsintltd

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"For I am Costanza, Lord of the Idiots!"

Dan

ironsickel

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>
> No proper pinball tech/collector should be without EITHER of these!
> Even if you never have to use them, there's always the chance that you
> _might_ have to. (And no sharing extinguishers between the kitchen
> and the pinball room; they're cheap enough that you should buy one for
> each!)

Unless you're remodelling the house and the kitchen IS the pinball room. :)

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