Allentown/Mike pacak

[mikepin]

Sorry if this shows up twice but posted a while ago and dont see it.
I will not be set up at Allentown this year for the first time. I
will be there friday all day and sat. morning. I have room to haul
there from ohio if needed. I can bring any flyers , schematics . or
backglasses if I have what u need. Call me at 330 518 3141 if you
need to see me there. I have several pick ups and d rop offs
arranged. Thanks MIKE PACAK

[shlockdoc]

Not taking sides, but wow that is a bummer. Another legacy vendor not
making the big show. I hope it can be worked out.


MK

[mikepin]

Me too, I have called IVAN 3 times and numerous emails as
suggested.. no responce.... does anyone know ths hours of the maybe
outside flea market..?? Mike pacak

[shlockdoc]

Thursday (setup only for vendors and free play) 1:00pm to 9:00pm
Friday May 4th from 12:00 pm to 9:00 pm
Saturday May 5th From 9:00 am to 8:00 pm

[Foo]

Mike,

I sent you 2 emails and left a voice mail asking about translights...

No replies at all. What's up??


--
Foo
This USENET post sent from http://rgparchive.com

[mikepin]

Ok THEN unlike most flea markets it will NOT be open at like 7am
on saturday outside??? like it has been for years?? just asking.. Get
to sleep in then I guess

[shlockdoc]

I am sure you can be there at 7am and shoo the pigeons away :-)

[82 Trooper]

Mike:
Do you have a schematic, or any material for a 1948 United Manufacturing
game called "BabyFace"?

Thanks!
Mike


--
82 Trooper

[Frank Furhter]

Seems pretty clear that Ivan doesn't give a shit if you or the other 9
people you say aren't going to be there show or not.

[mikepin]

Someday he will.. This is NO way to treat anyone. I have NEVER
encouaged a person not to come to that show. I just shared questions
about new procedures. He dont have the decency to answer them here
or call me back... NO WAY TO DO BUSSINESS.. He has TOLD others
there isan outside flea market WHY not here??

[ivan1496]

“Someday he will..”
Doubtful!

“This is NO way to treat anyone.”
You’re right unless one works really hard at it.

“ I have NEVER encouaged a person not to come to that show. I just
shared questions “about new procedures. “
Negative comments would be more accurate.

“He dont have the decency to answer them here or call me back...”
Well, we’re running a pretty demanding show. Its not something we’d do
in our sleep! Entertaining your needs is not our focus for future
reference.

“NO WAY TO DO BUSSINESS.. He has TOLD others
there isan outside flea market WHY not here??”
You did it for me two months ago. The response was fine, thank you.

But what of the private emails you shared with my staff and friends?
Can I have your permission to cut and paste those for all since we’re
in a sharing mood? Did you really think these would not be brought to
my attention? Not how I’d encourage change. I certainly wouldn't tell
you how to run your show (Is this really an accurate statement?)

If you really thought you could bully this show than think again.

You dug your own hole, worn out the welcome and will be street side as
far as security and I our concerned. I pay them pretty well so I have
their attention.

You’ve played your cards and now its Time to face the facts!

You’ve been PAYSACKED by Pinfest, get over it and spare the gas.
You’ll need to find another way to make the rent this month.

And if somehow this all still escapes you I’ll spell it out so YOU
understand “yOU Ain,T WeLCOme!

Are we clear?

[Steve Yates]

It's a shame if such a great show is destroyed because someone's
personal issues take so much precedence over everything else.

Because Pacak wants to know, no official statement can be made in
public regarding the flea market details. If you want to know
anything, you apparently need to directly contact someone who has
already said he doesn't have time to answer every e-mail he gets.

I hope the show goes better than it sounds. But if Ivan thinks these
rants turn off only Mike and his closest friends and continues to have
this be the public face of the show, I think he'll be surprised as the
show declines in the next few years.

I made other plans a month ago because of the refusal to answer
questions about the flea market, but I'm sure others would still want
to know. But again Ivan said nothing so I guess those going will just
need to show up and hope for the best.

I really do hope the show goes well this weekend and that the
organizers can grow up a bit because I would really like to go to the
show again if it is anything close to what I have enjoyed in the past.

Steve Yates
Team-EM
http://REELpinball.com

[Eddie]

I have done business with both Mike and Ivan and find them to be
really great stand up guys, above and beyond.

This really sucks that they had an out.

The community is too small for guys as important to the hobby as these
guys are to have such disputes.

Hopefully they can reconcile if not for themselves, but for Pinball
and its community.

[mikepin]

Unl ike Ivan I have NOT blasted him or the show publicly. I will
be at show as an atendie If he wants to stop me we can see what
happnes I guess .Up to him.. There is NO need for. him to react
like this from simple Questions...

[Basil]

>
> No replies at all. What's up??

Mike never replies to me either.

[vdojaq]

Pinball show Royal Rumble cage match:

Ivan vs. Mike vs. Gene vs..........

oh nevermind.


--
vdojaq

[Goonie]

One question. Regardless his reason, if he really doesn't want you at
his show, why would you want to go? There are plenty of other shows to
make your mark at.


--
Goonie

[vdojaq]

Goonie;1933774 Wrote:
> One question. Regardless his reason, if he really doesn't want you at
> his show, why would you want to go? There are plenty of other shows to
> make your mark at.

Have to agree here, why?

With Ivan's open post of you not being welcome is purely an open invite
to create a scene that would most likely end up being a complete
embarrassment for both parties involved.

Be the better man here and just walk away from this one.


--
vdojaq

[kirb]

On Wednesday, May 2, 2012 8:43:49 AM UTC-4, Goonie wrote:
> One question. Regardless his reason, if he really doesn't want you at
> his show, why would you want to go? There are plenty of other shows to
> make your mark at.

Mike isn't exactly great at taking a hint. He mentions his PUBLIC behavior, but fails to address the emails that has others worked up. Anyone who has been at the wrong end of one of his rants knows exactly how crass he can be.

Mike should take the hint and not go to Atown, but he will because he is Mike. Some find him entertaining, some like him because he has things they want, but anyone who is not in it for the 'car crash' factor would rather just stay away. I usually walk away from him at Chicagoland when he starts in on one of his snorting fits of rage. He always seems to be ignorant of his past behavior.

Some people just don't want to be associated with that kind of BS. Atown seems to get it. I can't blame them.

[Silverunicorn]

kirb;1933783 Wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 2, 2012 8:43:49 AM UTC-4, Goonie wrote:
> > One question. Regardless his reason, if he really doesn't want you
> at
> > his show, why would you want to go? There are plenty of other shows
> to
> > make your mark at.
>
> Mike isn't exactly great at taking a hint. He mentions his PUBLIC
> behavior, but fails to address the emails that has others worked up.
> Anyone who has been at the wrong end of one of his rants knows exactly

> how crass he can be..

>
> Mike should take the hint and not go to Atown, but he will because he is
> Mike. Some find him entertaining, some like him because he has things
> they want, but anyone who is not in it for the 'car crash' factor would
> rather just stay away. I usually walk away from him at Chicagoland when
> he starts in on one of his snorting fits of rage. He always seems to be
> ignorant of his past behavior.
>
> Some people just don't want to be associated with that kind of BS. Atown
> seems to get it. I can't blame them.

This. Whatever caused this riff is not my business. I will be there,
bring my games for people to enjoy, and have a great time :)

Ivan has been more than helpful to me, and anytime I tried to buy
something from Mike or ask a question at a show, he acted as if I was a
waste of his time. The choice for me is easy.

Chris


--
Silverunicorn

[mikepin]

look I have several games to pick uo for others and stuff to deliver
tha tI have sold. and stuff to pick up from others that I bought.
Does ANYONE think Ivans name calling here about me or dog is ok??

[Silverunicorn]

I am sure there is ALOT more to this on both sides than what we know.
Honestly I feel the whole thing is unfortunate, but I thought he made it
clear a while ago he did not want you there. At that point, I would have
made other plans if I could.

Seems to me (just from what I am reading) that someone actually stood up
to the bully and not you are caught in a situation you have never been
in before (not getting your way).

Hope you guys can work out your differences.

Chris


--
Silverunicorn

[Terrapin Mark]

On May 2, 8:56 am, vdojaq <vdo...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Goonie;1933774 Wrote:
>
> > One question.  Regardless his reason, if he really doesn't want you at
> > his show, why would you want to go?  There are plenty of other shows to
> > make your mark at.
>
> Have to agree here, why?

I can answer that with pretty much 100% certainty. Because he has
deals with people and they involve making the transaction(s) during
the Allentown show.

He may or may not be welcome at the show by the organizer. But he may
still have deals. I have kept my opinions mostly to myself. But if
Ivan decides to act past his Pacak is not welcome and actually ban him
from attending the show will be very interesting. Cowboy fans may not
be welcome in Eagles stadium but they are not banned.

I agree with Steve Yates post. Well written.

Mark Salas

[WilliamsFan]

This crap happens in every hobby.

I've found that if someone really annoys the tar out of me, I simply go
out of my way to avoid them. No loss to either party.
We tend to have the people we "like" and people we "dislike".
Banning someone from a public event seems chickenshit and unnecessary
where others can and will benefit from said person being there. Having
a heavy hand towards a targeted individual puts a foul odor on what we
love the most, our passion for entertainment and friendships...
Some tend to enjoy the drama, but to me it stinks. People tend to
spread the word about negative experiences instead of the positives
which leaves a black eye...

Don't tarnish the anticipated event, just stay away from each other?


--
WilliamsFan

[Mike Schudel]

I've never been to the Allentown show, but ever since I have been on rgp
(2001), there has ALWAYS been some drama surrounding this show...even with
the past organizers. What is up with this show (or organizers) that rubs
people the wrong way? Sheesh.

--
Mike S.
Kalamazoo, MI
Gameroom: http://tinyurl.com/yxzavc
W C S Owner's List: http://tinyurl.com/8ua2n
Gameroom Video: http://tinyurl.com/y8vmz6k

[Frank Furhter]

On the best summaries written about this issue.

[Brian Shepherd]

On May 2, 10:13 am, "Mike Schudel" <schud...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I've never been to the Allentown show, but ever since I have been on rgp
> (2001), there has ALWAYS been some drama surrounding this show...even with
> the past organizers.  What is up with this show (or organizers) that rubs
> people the wrong way?  Sheesh.

Well Allentown is close to Philadelphia, and if you have ever met any
of their sports fans, they apparently are not happy with anything :-)

For other reference sources, see Parking Wars!

-- Brian

[bigehrl]

WOW!

Just.... WOW

I was half-convinced for a second that this thread was a ridiculous
story I created in my mind. But I shut down my machine, restarted, and
it's actually still here.

If it makes anyone feel better, Ivan hasn't emailed or reached out to me
either. But that's prob cuz I never contacted him for anything. But when
I get there, I'm gonna walk right up to him, face to face, and say.....
"Hi", or something along those lines. And he'd better reply with the
same, or something synonymous with it, else I'm gonna say something on
the internet about him that's not in his favor.

Just watch, I know how!

-jon


--
bigehrl

[John T.]

Parking wars....There is A Good way to judge A city....Sheesh!
Philadelphians are passionate about their sports teams-That's for
sure!
-John T.

[Joe Grenuk]

If either Ivan or Mike think that they are the "winner" in this and
"showed" the other guy, they are both really wrong. A business can't
survive dealing with only those customers that they like. Mike is a
customer, and like it or not, he is and has been a major player in the
hobby for decades. Yeah, he can be an acquired taste. But then again,
so can (insert pretty much any name here).

I hope it isn't lost on other customers, (vendors and attendees) how
Mike is being treated. Today Mike. Tomorrow, me? You?

I hope one or both of them get over whatever their issues are and
shake hands and apologize to each other and act like grown ups.

Can't we all just get along ?

:)

[Pin Del]

+ 2 on what Joe said ! .

[G]

Let's all sing now....kumbaya..

See you all in Atown.

G

[Lloyd Olson]

You mean do what guys do ? Sit down, have a beer, patch things up.

Maybe at Allentown ?

LTG :)

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[Silverunicorn]

Lloyd Olson;1933958 Wrote:
> You mean do what guys do ? Sit down, have a beer, patch things up.
>
> Maybe at Allentown ?
>
> LTG :)
>
>

You need to come to this show Lloyd!!!

Chris


--
Silverunicorn

[Ned Ledod]

On May 2, 12:33 pm, "Lloyd Olson" <l...@ssbilliards.com> wrote:
> You mean do what guys do ? Sit down, have a beer, patch things up.
>
> Maybe at Allentown ?
>
> LTG :)
>

> "Joe Grenuk" <jgre...@aol.com> wrote in message

>
> news:befddc13-8ac7-4b99...@r32g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > I hope one or both of them get over whatever their issues are and
> > shake hands and apologize to each other and act like grown ups.
>
> > Can't we all just get along ?
>
> > :)

Great idea! Add alcohol to the problem!

[Lloyd Olson]

I wish I could. nothing would please me more than to see everyone there.

Maybe some year. LTG :)

"Silverunicorn" <wms...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Silverunic...@rrgparchive.com...

[Joe Grenuk]

Is Henry Kissinger a pinhead, per chance?

[shlockdoc]

On May 2, 2:28 pm, Joe Grenuk <jgre...@aol.com> wrote:
> Is Henry Kissinger a pinhead, per chance?

I think Henry tried and there will be no Camp David summit this year.

Mk 8)

[kirb]

On Wednesday, May 2, 2012 8:24:42 AM UTC-4, Basil wrote:
> >
> > No replies at all. What's up??
>
> Mike never replies to me either.

Then there is that irony....

[Scott C]

On May 2, 11:34 am, Brian Shepherd <slamt...@gmail.com> wrote:

Was anyone talking to this guy asking him about Philly sports fans? I
don't think so! Must be a Cowboys fan by winter and Yankees fan by
summer....figures

[mikepin]

hey I am all for a peace meeting. I just want to dod the deals I
needed to AND see people. have not missed tha tshow ever... SO YOU
guys arrange meeting . as u said no one wins

[Lloyd Olson]

Ivan, Mike.

How about 5pm on Thursday ?

Break some bread, talk some.

LTG :)

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[bigehrl]

sure... i'd love to do that for you.

as soon as you negotiate my lease with my landlord, and explain to my
girlfriend why i'm in a bad mood.

-jon


--
bigehrl

[Foo]

Basil;1933772 Wrote:
>
> >
> > No replies at all. What's up??
>
> Mike never replies to me either.

Right after I posted for Mike to email me... he did. No problems at all
and we just made a deal on some NOS translights I've been looking for.
Thanks Mike.


--
Foo

[MrBally]

Maybe a Detente?

[Stavs]

Can we have Pingeek videotape the meeting?

[mikepin]

WEll keeping me from setting up as a VENdor is one thing.
Keeping me out of show for COMMENTS I believe is another. I have
Several bussiness dealings with varius people arranged there. AS do
many of us there. SO I am comming and hope to make peace and do what
I need to do with people. I hope ivan does not interfere with
that. mike pacak. I will pay my 17.00 and attend as everyone
else..

[Pinaholic (NYC)]

Wow Mike, mighty white of you.

[IMMark]

In this day and age, when you can't throw a pinball leg without hitting
a lawyer.
I would be concerned if I were Mid Atlantic Replay, LLC or its
representatives.
If it is an Open to the Public event, I would not want to go down that
road.
There are lots of "personalities" here on RGP and in the pinball
community.
I hope for everyone's sake, that the show in Allentown is great and
keeps getting better!
Long Live Pinball

Mark


--
IMMark

[french toast]

Ivan has already told you he doesn't want you at the show. This means
as a vendor or as an attendee.
Security will ask you to leave if you are found on the property.

[metallik]

> > Mike never replies to me either.
>
> Right after I posted for Mike to email me... he did. No problems at all
> and we just made a deal on some NOS translights I've been looking for.
> Thanks Mike.

Mike generally doesn't ignore people, just has a lot going on all the
time. If the first ping attempt gets no reply, keep trying.. one will
get thru eventually :)

General advice for anyone (not specifically for anyone in this
thread): If you want to buys something from Mike, keep it simple..
tell 'im what you're looking for, and better yet make an offer at the
same time. I've seen people at his booths at shows browse, hem/haw
over his stock, ask to see a dozen flyers out of the bins, then try to
haggle on a $20 piece of paper. All that does is piss him off. Keep
it short and simple :) He always has way too much going on to act as
a typical storefront or seller. If you do things quick n easy, you
can generally get good deals. Just a public service announcement.

[Pacpin]

IMMark;1934498 Wrote:
> In this day and age, when you can't throw a pinball leg without hitting
> a lawyer.
> I would be concerned if I were Mid Atlantic Replay, LLC or its
> representatives.
> If it is an Open to the Public event, I would not want to go down that
> road.
> There are lots of "personalities" here on RGP and in the pinball
> community.
> I hope for everyone's sake, that the show in Allentown is great and
> keeps getting better!
> Long Live Pinball
>
> Mark

Just because it's 'open to the public' doesn't mean everyone has the
right to come regardless of other circumstances. Ivan's notified
security. If i were Mike, i'd just stay clear, if he has deals to make,
make them across the street. Ivan is a serious man, if he says
something, he means it. He's not going to let this slide. If Mike
shows up, there will be trouble.


--
Pacpin

[Stavs]

On May 3, 11:46 am, Pacpin <jml_...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Just because it's 'open to the public' doesn't mean everyone has the
> right to come regardless of other circumstances.  Ivan's notified
> security.  If i were Mike, i'd just stay clear, if he has deals to make,
> make them across the street.  Ivan is a serious man, if he says
> something, he means it.  He's not going to let this slide.  If Mike
> shows up, there will be trouble.
>
> --
> Pacpin
> This USENET post sent from  http://rgparchive.com

This might be more interesting than the drunk girl from last year.

[Pinhobbie]

The drunk girl wasn't from the pinfest show,wasn't she from the show
next door,I think it was a spiritual holistic show,you go holy
roller.it's ironic because this years show is in that same area.maybe
that side of the fairgrounds is jinxed

[Stavs]

Yeah, she was definitely from the other side, but it created a nice
little bit of entertainment for smokers.

[Pacpin]

Stavs;1934573 Wrote:
> On May 3, 12:52*pm, Pinhobbie <colehv... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
> > On May 3, 12:25*pm, Stavs <splatterh... (AT) mac (DOT) com> wrote:

> >
> > > On May 3, 11:46*am, Pacpin <jml_... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:
> >
> > > > Just because it's 'open to the public' doesn't mean everyone has
> the

> > > > right to come regardless of other circumstances. *Ivan's notified
> > > > security. *If i were Mike, i'd just stay clear, if he has deals to
> make,
> > > > make them across the street. *Ivan is a serious man, if he says
> > > > something, he means it. *He's not going to let this slide. *If

> Mike
> > > > shows up, there will be trouble.
> >
> > > > --
> > > > Pacpin

> > > > This USENET post sent from *http://rgparchive.com

> >
> > > This might be more interesting than the drunk girl from last year.
> >
> > The drunk girl wasn't from the pinfest show,wasn't she from the show
> > next door,I think it was a spiritual holistic show,you go holy
> > roller.it's ironic because this years show is in that same area.maybe
> > that side of the fairgrounds is jinxed
>
> Yeah, she was definitely from the other side, but it created a nice
> little bit of entertainment for smokers.

Wasn't there a guy that pooped himself there last year while playing a
game in a tournament? Or was that at a different show as well? In any
event, if Mike does show up, it will make for another interesting year.
The question is, will Ivan just allow security to handle him, or will
Ivan himself serve Mike a big knuckle sandwich. Whichever is the case,
for anyone who is going, i'd have your cell phone cameras ready at a
moment's notice. Someone is going down this year.

[Stavs]

Mike does have that cute little ankle biter though.....

[Frank Furhter]

You apparently still don't get it. Ivan stated in his last post you are
not welcome on premise at all, as a vendor or customer. You don't get
no soup, don't come back apparently and get in line, no soup for you.

[Frank Furhter]

His ex?

[Frank Furhter]

Sounds like a reference to an ex.

[Pinaholic (NYC)]

I hope Mike Shows, it wouldn't be the same without his fine translates, etc.

[Mr. 68]

On May 3, 2:04 pm, "Pinaholic (NYC)" <aci...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I hope Mike Shows, it wouldn't be the same without his fine translates, etc.

I doubt this will be a Thrilla in Manila but I'm attending the show
for other reasons.

Kim

[Stavs]

Make sure you stop by and say hi kim...I'll be at the Mad Amusements
booth.

[Pacpin]

Pinaholic (NYC);1934627 Wrote:
> I hope Mike Shows, it wouldn't be the same without his fine translates,
> etc.

Mike will show, could you imagine how big of a wimp he would look like
if he didn't show up, especially after bragging on here how he was going
to show up and stick it to Ivan and do as he pleases? And in the same
vein, Ivan needs to make sure Mike doesn't show up since he told
everyone on here he was not letting Mike in under any circumstances and
he has paid security to be on the lookout for him. If Mike manages to
squeak past Ivan and his security, it's going to make the show look like
it's poorly run with bad security, etc.

This is going to be a great show! I guess there are supposed to be some
pinball machines there too.

[Mr. 68]

On May 3, 2:32 pm, Stavs <splatterh...@mac.com> wrote:
> On May 3, 2:25 pm, "Mr. 68" <M...@q.com> wrote:
>
> > On May 3, 2:04 pm, "Pinaholic (NYC)" <aci...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > I hope Mike Shows, it wouldn't be the same without his fine translates, etc.
>
>

> Make sure you stop by and say hi kim...I'll be at the Mad Amusements
> booth.

Amongst a select few, I will be stalking the great smart ass, Stavs.
See you soon.

Kim

[spamf...@gmail.com]

On Wednesday, May 2, 2012 9:55:08 AM UTC-4, Terrapin Mark wrote:
> Cowboy fans may not
> be welcome in Eagles stadium but they are not banned.
>
> Mark Salas

We're working on closing that loophole within the next few months.

Tom Landry fans are welcome, however.

[Rrosete Rrosete]

If this is the main event, what is the under card?
How 'bout...
Stavs vs EDD.. it's a family affair..
S. Charles vs. T. McCulloch..heavyweight division
Hobbs vs Huse.. loser has to shave there head
Levi vs Gerry.. a battle of upstate NY vs NYC
Rondondo vs Mike at GRC... Ron loses due to being distracted by the
GRC ring card girls
Nightingale vs Tuckey... Todd wins and throws a pinlifter off his
warehouse roof
McAffee vs Mike at Mad Amuse... Gloves dropped and they argue about
fastest shipping history
Rick at Bay Area vs Marco... Rick wins with one punch and Marco wakes
up in Alcatraz



Kidding aside...I do not have a horse in this race but really hope
Ivan and Mike can work this out.
Rich

[Stavs]

Oh with that comment I have to put my stamp on this thread.

I think we have an artist rendering of what the confrontation might
look like:

http://tinyurl.com/77sw9ro

[Don O Team EM!]

Now that is hilarious!

Don O in MD

[yetterben]

More like this......

Dont forget your Geritol fella's before the match.

http://tinyurl.com/7qo483u



Stavs;1934671 Wrote:
> On May 3, 2:48*pm, "Mr. 68" <M... (AT) q (DOT) com> wrote:
> > On May 3, 2:32*pm, Stavs <splatterh... (AT) mac (DOT) com> wrote:
> >
> > > On May 3, 2:25*pm, "Mr. 68" <M... (AT) q (DOT) com> wrote:
> >
> > > > On May 3, 2:04*pm, "Pinaholic (NYC)" <aci... (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

> wrote:
> >
> > > > > I hope Mike Shows, it wouldn't be the same without his fine
> translates, etc.
> >
> > > Make sure you stop by and say hi kim...I'll be at the Mad Amusements
> > > booth.
> >
> > Amongst a select few, I will be stalking the great smart ass, Stavs.
> > See you soon.
> >
> > Kim
>
> Oh with that comment I have to put my stamp on this thread.
>
> I think we have an artist rendering of what the confrontation might
> look like:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/77sw9ro

--
yetterben

[Gott Lieb?]

Interesting. I never received the memo stating that were you dethroned
as the "great SA".

Jim

Mr. 68;1934649 Wrote:
>
> Amongst a select few, I will be stalking the great smart ass, Stavs.
> See you soon.
>
> Kim

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Gott Lieb?

[Gorgarspeaks]

Rompen;1934706 Wrote:

> On May 3, 1:44*pm, Pacpin <jml_... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:
> > Mike will show, could you imagine how big of a wimp he would look like
> > if he didn't show up, especially after bragging on here how he was
> going

> > to show up and stick it to Ivan and do as he pleases? *And in the same

> > vein, Ivan needs to make sure Mike doesn't show up since he told
> > everyone on here he was not letting Mike in under any circumstances
> and

> > he has paid security to be on the lookout for him. *If Mike manages to

> > squeak past Ivan and his security, it's going to make the show look
> like
> > it's poorly run with bad security, etc.
>

> You sir, are the consummate shit-stirrer. I bet as a kid you stomped
> on every anthill you saw..

Pacpin is a little whiney bitch. I can't believe you guys haven't
blocked this troll already. "Consummate shit-stirrer" would be
accurate. I guarantee that this dude was beaten up a lot as a young kid
growing up. I'd bet money on it.

As for the feud, both parties need to man up and push past it. Just be
civil.


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Gorgarspeaks

[Sk8boss]

Teto get me tissue.............

[Stavs]

On May 3, 6:00 pm, Sk8boss <b...@pennskate.com> wrote:
> Teto get me tissue.............

Jermaine, stop teasing!

[mikepin]

Come on I HAVE never said I was going to stick it to IVAN, If
your remember this all stated with me bitching about the no outdoor
flea market WHICH becasue others bitched too he is having it. I
again have NEVER said a bad word about the show or discouraged 1
person not to come... Ivans hatred for me is UN WARRENTED period.
This year show will be better than it was going to be partially
becasue I started the bitch about outside... ANd I am the bad
GUY?? I really dont see his point here. Come on guys help me out
here.. AS far as my concerns about trucks insdie tha tI pointed out
NOWHERE I know will allow trucks like that insdie with people, a
kitchen . gas tanks batteries connected etc My local fire chief
even said NO way... not with todays concerned more than ever about
fires

[Goonie]

I heard they were going to pull the fire truck inside too, so no
concerns about fires.


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Goonie

[Bill]

I think Mike has a point. If there is going to be an outside flea
market, it is largely because of him, with the support of others. An
outside flea market will undoubtedly make the show better. While
we're on the subject, is there really an outside flea market, and if
so, what time does it start? I don't want to sleep in and miss it but
I don't want to show up at 8AM and stand around until 12 noon
scratching my butt if there isn't one. There really should be some
better communicaton to the public, not just the privelidged few.

[mikepin]

I am banned for asking these questions so BE careful .u may be
too MIKE PACAK

[freeman]

> that.   mike pacak.  I will pay  my 17.00  and attend as everyone
> else..

well, if you cannot set up right there, you can always grab a small
banquet room at a local hotel a few miles away, and setup your store/
exchanges there.

That seems to work pretty good for IPB during Expo; and a lot of us
now make the IPB gig a part of our annual Expo event.

If you don't need the dedicated room, I guess you could just sell off
the back of your truck.

[MrBally]

Scott, You're making me hungry for some prime cuts of meat at the
Potato Basket!

[Sk8boss]

This is my take on the flea market: There is an outdoor flea market.
It follows the same hours as the show. In order to get into the flea
market you need to have a wristband that you will get when you pay to
get in the show. In order to get to the outdoor area you must go thru
the indoor part. (not like other years where it was separate.)
As for the outdoor market happening because of Mike? Think again..the
indoor spaces were sold out and in order to accommodate the vendors
they had to expand outside. The other side where the show was previous
years was already spoken for.
The space is HUGE and filling up. I saw new vendors there that werent
there before. AWESOME LOOKING GAMES already in place. Cant wait to get
back and flip away!!!!!

BTW: Weather report shows chance of thunderstorms all weekend.....I
guess the indoor flea market vendors will be guaranteed customers so
the weather report doesnt matter to them. Hope it holds up for the
outdoor guys!!

[Goonie]

freeman;1934824 Wrote:
>
>
> That seems to work pretty good for IPB during Expo; and a lot of us
> now make the IPB gig a part of our annual Expo event.
>
> If you don't need the dedicated room, I guess you could just sell off
> the back of your truck.

Can we talk about IPB? Why are they not allowed at Expo?

[chuck]

On Wednesday, May 2, 2012 10:13:58 AM UTC-4, Mike Schudel wrote:
> I've never been to the Allentown show, but ever since I have been on rgp
> (2001), there has ALWAYS been some drama surrounding this show...even with
> the past organizers. What is up with this show (or organizers) that rubs
> people the wrong way? Sheesh.
>
> --
> Mike S.
> Kalamazoo, MI
> Gameroom: http://tinyurl.com/yxzavc
> W C S Owner's List: http://tinyurl.com/8ua2n
> Gameroom Video: http://tinyurl.com/y8vmz6k

*passes Mike some popcorn*

[chuck]

On Thursday, May 3, 2012 7:53:47 PM UTC-4, MrBally wrote:
> On May 3, 7:50 pm, freeman

Freeman's post and Bally's reply are win!

[Bill]

Is this information you are surmising, or do you know this for a fact?

[Sk8boss]

Is this information you are surmising, or do you know this for a
fact?

Fact.

[mikepin]

years ago GENE files frivoulous lawsuit against me and my son
Williams made him drop it. period Cost me 5600.00 I legal fees .
Thats the Issue with Gene AS wel lI helped him very much by loaning
him 32 parts to make BBB. In My driveway we shook hands that I would
pay for game when I picked it up. He scrwed me out of game...
Not quite the same kind of issue here with IVAN.... To most of you
this is old news. ALSo a few years back GENE booked a room at WEstin
to sell out of for 2700.00 They screwed up as they couldnt do that
according to our contract They gave him his money back. He was
offered to make peace and come to expo to pay the 2700 to expo and
all wood be good. He refused.... mike pacak

[seymour.shabow]

Know what? That there's an outside flea market? There definitely is.
I was at the show location Wed. when they set up the outside fencing.

[Starfighter]

Goonie;1934795 Wrote:
> I heard they were going to pull the fire truck inside too, so no
> concerns about fires.

Please tell me that they are gonna let Mike drink from the fire hose....
please!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXc5ltzKq3Y


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Starfighter

[William Brower]

Do you think by not having an outside flea market and then having one
scared a lot of people off?. Or did they plan on one the whole time
and say they were not having one because of Mike?

Bill

[mikepin]

the show has always need great BUt they have lost x amount of
PAST people becasue of the Flea market MYSTERY... No flea market
at 7 am sat??? Thats was the best part of show,,,

[Frank Furhter]

Starfighter wrote:
> Goonie;1934795 Wrote:
>> I heard they were going to pull the fire truck inside too, so no
>> concerns about fires.
>
> Please tell me that they are gonna let Mike drink from the fire hose....
> please!
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXc5ltzKq3Y

After which he can fill up his empty swimming pool with pee and blood
for a rosemary cocktail called time-to-swim.

[Frank Furhter]

I'm curious as to why this one show, one of many, makes a bit of damn
difference in his mortgage situation?

[Frank Furhter]

Goonie wrote:
> freeman;1934824 Wrote:
>>
>>
>> That seems to work pretty good for IPB during Expo; and a lot of us
>> now make the IPB gig a part of our annual Expo event.
>>
>> If you don't need the dedicated room, I guess you could just sell off
>> the back of your truck.
>
> Can we talk about IPB? Why are they not allowed at Expo?

More like why Gene can't stand the guys who put down the expo would be
the question to ask.

[Frank Furhter]

Dear God, WTF is with this second grade dribble? Learn to text, or
don't use the tool, learn to type or don't use the keyboard. Claiming
engineer status via some third world country is a lame and insulting
excuse against those of us that actually care about our degrees.

Mike, if you need to squeeze monthly to get your place paid, or your
ex's alimony so be it. But for you to come online and expose your nads
in such a lame way is beyond reasonable. What you have going on is a
disease, a problem and serious. Get some help.

[Goonie]

Frank Furhter.;1934997 Wrote:
>
> More like why Gene can't stand the guys who put down the expo would be
> the question to ask.

;)

[Pacpin]

Mike, don't start backtracking on this. Seems like you're now trying to
act all cool and peaceful. Ivan is not on here posting, he's quiet,
he's at home working out, toughening up his fists, he's not playing
around, i can tell you that much. If you are seriously going, you
better think about bringing back up or something.


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Pacpin

[vdojaq]

Pacpin;1935099 Wrote:
> Mike, don't start backtracking on this. Seems like you're now trying to
> act all cool and peaceful. Ivan is not on here posting, he's quiet,
> he's at home working out, toughening up his fists, he's not playing
> around, i can tell you that much. If you are seriously going, you
> better think about bringing back up or something.

Is there a local playground they can meet up?

It's the rumble in the jungle ....gym
Pound for Pound... by the merry-go-round

My dad can beat up your dad!!!


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vdojaq