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Playfield and Backglass Scan Swap?

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vid1900

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Jun 1, 2012, 12:43:07 PM6/1/12
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A common question here is if anyone has a detailed scan of a Playfield
or Backglass.

I'm sure by now everyone has seen the Cruse Digital Scanner:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qScqIa0K7VI

http://www.crusescanner.com/

www.crusedigital.com/cd_customers.asp (list of scanners for hire)

There is one of these scanners in most large cites worldwide and they
charge about $60 to scan a playfield.

Would anyone be interested in starting a Scan Swap?

To keep leechers away, you would have to have scans to offer in order to
be part of the group.

Of course there are details to figure out, but nothing insurmountable to
a smart group :

1. Is the swap hosted overseas?
2. Is it a triggered list on IRC?
3. Is it a group like an E-mule?
4. Password torrent of some sort?
5. How to correct imbalances in collections? (one guy has 70 scans, one
guy has 2).
6. How to grade scans - NOS to heavy wear...
7. Should we choose a standard, like 300dpi?


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Mike Berger

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Jun 1, 2012, 12:51:34 PM6/1/12
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I've thought about this type of thing also. The only issue you might have with scans are copyright issues. I don't know how aggressive they will be in enforcing their rights. Other than that, It a good idea. I've got a couple of BG scans to contribute.

Fursphere

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Jun 1, 2012, 12:59:31 PM6/1/12
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Find me a location near Sacramento, CA - and I'm in. I can contribute
Gottlieb stuff.


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nwojedi

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Jun 1, 2012, 1:09:50 PM6/1/12
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This is exactly what I was looking to buy. This will save me a ton of
time. I have a ton of playfield scans already. I'll do some trading.
These are some i'm looking for

Safecracker
Arena (both playfields)
Jolly park
Sopranos
Defender


I'm going to look into buying one of these scanners. Better than
scanning in sections and piecing them together.


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nwojedi

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Jun 1, 2012, 1:31:51 PM6/1/12
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WTF isn't there a price for these scanners? Would be easier to sell if
they were actually available.

Frank Furhter

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Jun 1, 2012, 2:58:15 PM6/1/12
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nwojedi wrote:
> WTF isn't there a price for these scanners? Would be easier to sell if
> they were actually available.

The scanners are mega bucks, and costly to operate/maintain.
You can find folks with them in business, actually doing something with
them instead of asking about pricing for them. Its commercial, its
likely out of your range and/or interest. As for a swap, great idea.
Leechers are good too, for it spreads the goodness to all that have a
passing or active interest. Start the forum, post your 'junk' for all
to see and enjoy. Its art after all, and mega old art at that.

vid1900

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Jun 1, 2012, 3:18:32 PM6/1/12
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nwojedi;1949337 Wrote:
> WTF isn't there a price for these scanners? Would be easier to sell if
> they were actually available.

Even used, those scanners run $4000.

$60 a playfield scan seems like a fair price, at least to me.

I scan the back at lower resolution and they charge $30.


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cardfelon

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Jun 1, 2012, 3:22:07 PM6/1/12
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I have several playfields that I got scanned. I called around and found
a blueprint company that had a scanner big enough. I drop off the
playfield and then it normally takes a few days as they fit it in
between normal stuff. They charge $40 per scan. Would love to swap scans
with people.


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Frank Furhter

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Jun 1, 2012, 5:39:56 PM6/1/12
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vid1900 wrote:
> nwojedi;1949337 Wrote:
>> WTF isn't there a price for these scanners? Would be easier to sell if
>> they were actually available.
>
> Even used, those scanners run $4000.
>
> $60 a playfield scan seems like a fair price, at least to me.
>
> I scan the back at lower resolution and they charge $30.
>
>

Do you mean back of PF or backglass? :)

Frank Furhter

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Jun 1, 2012, 5:40:45 PM6/1/12
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vid1900 wrote:
> nwojedi;1949337 Wrote:
>> WTF isn't there a price for these scanners? Would be easier to sell if
>> they were actually available.
>
> Even used, those scanners run $4000.
>
> $60 a playfield scan seems like a fair price, at least to me.
>
> I scan the back at lower resolution and they charge $30.
>
>

What would be cool is a current around the country Cruse scanner service
directory. This would be a huge plus for the effort to get BG and PF
scans done along with public access.

vid1900

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Jun 1, 2012, 10:59:29 PM6/1/12
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Frank Furhter.;1949503 Wrote:
>
>
> What would be cool is a current around the country Cruse scanner service
>
> directory. This would be a huge plus for the effort to get BG and PF
> scans done along with public access.


They have this short list of public access scanners:

http://www.crusedigital.com/cd_customers_national.asp

vid1900

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Jun 1, 2012, 11:00:59 PM6/1/12
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The back of the Playfield.

kbliznick

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Jun 2, 2012, 12:16:53 AM6/2/12
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On Jun 1, 10:09 am, nwojedi <nwoj...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> This is exactly what I was looking to buy.  This will save me a ton of
> time.  I have a ton of playfield scans already.  I'll do some trading.
> These are some i'm looking for
>
> Safecracker
> Arena (both playfields)
> Jolly park
> Sopranos
> Defender
>
> I'm going to look into buying one of these scanners.  Better than
> scanning in sections and piecing them together.
>
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> nwojedi
>
> * C a p t a i n   N e o *
> Pinball Playfield restoration service at:
> _www.Captainneo.com(\"http://www.captainneo.com\")__:D
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I still haven't installed my NOS Defender playfield, so it's still
possible to scan it. I already scanned it in 12 sections at 300 dpi
just in case.

Hammer5550

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Jun 2, 2012, 1:01:43 AM6/2/12
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What dpi do you get them scaned at? Does anyone know what the
resolution was when they orginally made the playfields at the factory?

greatw...@hotmail.com

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Jun 2, 2012, 1:50:14 AM6/2/12
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300 dpi is more than enough for playfields or backglass.

Frank Furhter

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Jun 2, 2012, 6:13:44 AM6/2/12
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Single pass scan at 600 or higher is good. 300 DPI is not good for
raster reproduction, and somewhat questionable when doing overlay vector
reproduction work (however it will do.)

m_h...@hotmail.com

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Jun 3, 2012, 3:57:41 AM6/3/12
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I would recommend scanning any artwork of any kind at twice the final intended resolution, performing any and all digital cleanup/repair and scaling down to the final resolution. I would typically scan at 600DPI for a target image resolution of 300DPI. Many/most graphics programs have issues dealing with 600DPI full playfield/backglass images as they have to juggle 300+ million pixels of color data. Vector images are a different animal as they are all lines, curves, and area color fills.
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