On 2021/05/11 12:36 p.m., diana anderson wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 11:48:12 AM UTC-7, John Robertson wrote:
>> On 2021/05/11 10:58 a.m., diana anderson wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 8:12:51 AM UTC-7, John Robertson wrote:
>>>> On 2021/05/11 5:54 a.m., diana anderson wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 8:39:33 AM UTC-7, dimpe...@gmail.com
>>>>>> I think they have their place in the pinball world. The Arcade 1ups and the ATgames virtual machines are pretty popular. The Atgames virtual pinball machines are still hard to get and sell out in less than an hour when in stock. I think the ATgames ones allow you to hook pinball FX through them as well and can play arcade games through them. One of the nice things is that they have some virtual/digital leader boards and gives owners something to work to beat. I do think these cheaper virtual pinballs are giving people a cheaper entry point into having their owning their pinball machine. I also think that the cheap virtual machines are introducing more people to pinball.
>>>>>> With that being said, I have built and sold two virtual pinball machines. I prefer the real thing over the virtual machines. The problem with some of the virtual pinball is that some tables can lag and the sound can be off. These things detract from the fun when playing the virtual machines. I for one enjoy working on my real machines trying to keep them working and looking good. When I have people over, they tend to gravitate towards the real pinball machines and not the virtual pinball machine.
>>>>> I didnt think they were worth it..Theres a guy in the UK who builds them ..thepinballking.. and he could'nt even tell me the list of games that come with his machines..they range in price from $1.2k..$5.7k...He gets 5 stars on his reviews but cant even tell me what pins are on it..what kind of moron builds a game that expensive and cant let the buyer know this..like stern selling me a pin with a surprize title ..dont think ill have any in my lineup anytime soom..thx for the know..
>>>> He probably can't tell you because he is worried about copyright
>>>> legalities and being sued out of existence. Most machines are not legal
>>>> in any way, shape or form so folks selling them have to operate under
>>>> the radar...
>>>> John ;-#)#
>>> so then how does all the artwork that's on his cabinets get copyrighted..Hes got TZ ,Acdc,Simpsons,MM,and other high end titles that look just like factory artwork on them?
>> It isn't probably copyrighted, but copied. As such, if unlicensed, then
>> he is liable for copyright infringement. Game artwork used on
>> playfields, backglasses and cabinets is all copyrighted these days (
>> since the early 70s in fact).
>> If he is licensed by Gottlieb LLC and Scientific Games then fine, but I
>> suspect not, and so he can't provide you with a list as you may be a
>> lawyer looking to pin him to the wall...
>> John ;-#)#
> if you look at his web site you'll see some pretty convinceing pins and most lawyers would of shut him down a long time ago..im no laywer just a 80's metal pin head with plenty of $ for my toys but was'nt sure on these
pins. They rarely last more than a couple of years.
buyer as far as I know. Just make sure you can fix the machine if this