Stern Pinball - Which new Stern do you regret buying? Why?

[Baraka]

Curious,

What is the top list of newer Stern pins that you totally regret
buying from Stern and why?

[Xerico]

Define "newer".

For me, my first NIB purchase of a Stern NASCAR was the most
regretable.
The only reason it was regretable was due to purchasing the game from a
distributor who marked it up significantly. I paid $4,600 for a game I
later found out I could have purchased for about $3,200 had I known
about the other resources available for NIB Sterns.

Marcus


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[John I]

No regrets. They make great games.

John


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[steve keeler]

no regrets in my camp !

[Nevus]

I only have 1 NIB Stern. Spider-Man and I love it!

[AddictedToEMs]

Avatar LE - enjoyed it, but had to bend over when I sold it.

[crank]

I have four Sterns and I love them all.

[bjones]

I've owned 3, LOTR, TRON LE and Avatar and really can't say I regret any
of them. Always games you like better or worse over time, but 'regret'
is really a non applicable term unless you bought it for the wrong
reasons in the first place and those reasons were regrettable.


--
bjones

[mummite]

I bought TRON pro and TF le and love them both!

[Jimz WOZ #344]

No regrets. I have 5 and 1 was nib.

[pmWolf]

I only regret the ones I've sold. Wish I still had some of them. (T3,
RBION).

Currently have Tron:LE, LOTR, FG, TSPP, Spidey, POTC, CSI, Batman, IJ4,
AP.

Some of those are among my favorites of all time. Heck, Tron is amazing.
The ones I'm not wild about (CSI, AP), are massive hits at my parties,
and my wife loves those...so I certainly don't regret their purchase.
They aren't awful to play, and they bring joy to others, so who cares?

So...no regrets. Stern has put out some really great games.

Pete


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pmWolf

[Scott Frazier]

I bought a TF LE NIB and love it. Zero regrets.

[Abby Normal]

Buying NIB is over all a waste of money. You lose money the second you open the box. And buying a game you've never seen or played is stupid, IMHO.

I own one Stern, a Family Guy. Didn't buy it new, but it's close, but I paid about have what you'd pay just to have privilege of opening the box.

It's one of Sterns few good newer games. Most of them are just like a broken record.

I've been playing a lot of BBB lately (duh), and it's better than anything Stern has aver made.

[nwojedi]

None, because I don't buy blindly like many on here do. Play it a lot
first before buying. Don't buy into the hype. Only NIB newer stern I
own is LOTR. And there is a reason for that.


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[Mike Schudel]

"Abby Normal" <MissAbb...@gmail.com> wrote in message...

> Buying NIB is over all a waste of money. You lose money the second you
> open the box.

Someone had to buy it new or it still would be sitting at Stern. Everything
you buy new loses value as soon as you open it, not just pinballs.

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[Pinball Life]

My first NIB Stern was 9 years ago. I still have it. Since then I
have purchased 7 more for my personal collection. I still have all
them as well, except for the LOTR that I sold to buy a LOTR LE. If
you aren't buying a NIB machine to keep you are more often than not
bleeding money. Luckily I have made some good NIB choices over the
years (IMHO) so I have never felt the urge to purge.
Terry.

[Scylla]

Huh. You paid almost NIB price for a used game but think people who
buy NIB are categorically "stupid". Just kinda sounds curious when
you string it altogether. People buy NIB or used for different and
very valid reasons. Why call anyone stupid? Live and let live, I
say. FGY Is a great game.

[challanger]

On Apr 7, 11:33 pm, Pinball Life

i presently have 13 and plan on keeping them all ---- i also have 14
bally/williams ---- if you buy your games right and except that some
will be better than other you will enjoy them all

[Robert Smith]

This is easy.. Avatar.

Had high expectations, and after about a week I was bored of the
game. Then they announced they were putting out a LE version (this
was the first time they did this, and they did not tell the "pro"
owners they were doing this so I didn't have the option). Pissed me
off pretty bad. But in the end I was glad I didn't put the money out
on an LE as I lost about a grand on my Pro when I sold it.

So much potential with this title, I still ask myself WTF? when I
think about what stern did to Avatar :)

[QuickSilverShelby]

IJ4. Why do I regret buying it? The game sucks huge.

QSS

[phishrace]

On Apr 7, 10:26 pm, QuickSilverShelby <musta...@telusplanet.net>
wrote:

> IJ4.  Why do I regret buying it?  The game sucks huge.

This is the correct answer. The only positive thing that can be said
about IJ4 is that it looks nice from a distance.

My condolences.

-phish

[pmWolf]

I understand why some don't like IJ4....but I enjoy it quite a bit, and
so do any guests that play it.

It's got a great sound and vid package, and the Ark is pretty sweet. I
am a huge fan of the movies, so obviously it gets a bump from me just
out of a pure nostalgic reaction. (Obviously...your mileage may vary). I
enjoy starting the specific scenes, and appreciate the real movie clips
and dialogue.

The 8-ball multiball is a big hit, and really brings a "wow" factor to
people who have never played it. At most of my parties, IJ4 will get
played more than the "heavy hitters" in my collection, like LoTR, MM,
CV, ToM, TZ, MB, etc etc etc.

Most people that come over have never played it (since not many seem to
have it), and they all come away saying the same thing: "RGP totally
rips this game...but I like it! What's up with all the hate??"

Again, you are certainly allowed to dislike the game. I'm not going to
pretend that just because I like it, then everyone should. (Conversely,
those that hate it shouldn't demand that all others should hate it also.
That's just not how pinball works).

Pete

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phishrace;1918855 Wrote:
> On Apr 7, 10:26*pm, QuickSilverShelby <musta... (AT) telusplanet (DOT)
> net>
> wrote:
> > IJ4. *Why do I regret buying it? *The game sucks huge.

>
> This is the correct answer. The only positive thing that can be said
> about IJ4 is that it looks nice from a distance.
>
> My condolences.
>
> -phish

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pmWolf

[Dan Q very much]

I regret buying Tron LE NIB: now I have to deal with the anguish of
whether I should sell it for $3000 more than I paid!

[Rare Hero]

On Apr 7, 8:00 pm, Abby Normal <MissAbbyNor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Buying NIB is over all a waste of money. You lose money the second you open the box.

People who buy NIB are generally not worried about resale value....and
if the goal is to buy a game to keep and enjoy, the concept of "losing
money" is irrelevant.

>And buying a game you've never seen or played is stupid, IMHO.

This I'll have to agree with. I've been stupid a few times...lol. ;)

> I've been playing a lot of BBB lately (duh), and it's better than anything Stern has aver made.

...and you're worried about money? Why I outta....


As for the topic, I have no regrets. I've sold many of my Sterns
(NIB, HUO, routed) - but I enjoyed playing them a lot, and never sold
them due to hating them. I'd play them all again on location or at a
friend's house - I just wanted something new in the lineup.

I'd only regret buying a Stern if it was 24 or IJ4 ;)

Greg

[Sean Casey]

I have 5 Sterns purchase NIB and I have no regrets purchasing any of them.

Sean

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[MrBally]

Abby said she paid about "have" what you pay for the privilege of
opening the box. I think she meant "half".

[Detroitboy]

You must have seriously overpaid for you FG if its worth less now than
when it was new. The value of my NIB FG, SM, POTC, LOTR and TRON LE
is all above what I paid for them new. You better find a new dealer
to use.

[mr tobias]

On Apr 8, 12:45 am, Baraka <grus...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Curious,
>
> What is the top list of newer Stern pins that you totally regret
> buying from Stern and why?

I regretted buying BDK. The game offers little beyond the crane toy.
The Joker and teeter totter mechanisms added nothing to the gameplay,
and POTD2 was not as well implemented as the original in LOTR.

It's the only machine bought nib I went on to sell!

[sensfreak]

I have only bought one NIB and it was SM. I don't regret it a bit.

[Max Badazz]

> What is the top list of newer Stern pins that you totally regret
> buying from Stern and why?

Elvis... was not a fan of the game after about 100 plays. I didn't
buy it new, but it was HUO and only lasted a few months in the
collection

Chris (in NH)
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[nwojedi]

Detroitboy;1918981 Wrote:
>
>
> You must have seriously overpaid for you FG if its worth less now than
> when it was new. The value of my NIB FG, SM, POTC, LOTR and TRON LE
> is all above what I paid for them new. You better find a new dealer
> to use.

Based on what? The prices people try and ask for on here? Because
those are fishing prices. Very rarely will you actually sell a game for
more or the same as the NIB price was. Unless you happen to own one of
the 3 games that actually went up since the NIB prices.

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[nworker]

Monopoly. I was really excited to get the game and it was too easy, repetitive, and it could have been so much more. As with all modern games it comes down to the software. Oh and the sound, which wasn't very good on Monotony.

I have purchased other Stern games NIB: TSPP, LOTR and IM. Ended up selling LOTR as I didn't like it after all was said and done. I love my SM and RBION too, but they were purchased used.

Next NIB game: The Wizard of Oz! It will look nice next to my NIB BBB ;-)

[railbender]

On Apr 7, 5:45 pm, Baraka <grus...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Curious,
>

> What is the top list of newer Stern pins that you totally regret
> buying from Stern and why?

I don't think I have any regret buying a single pinball machine new
Stern or not. I lose some and win some but always put in a bunch of
great plays since. I do regret buying cars, dinner, gym memberships,
computers, cameras, but pinball machines and season passes to ski,
nope.

Kenny

[Detroitboy]

nwojedi;1919576 Wrote:
> Based on what? The prices people try and ask for on here? Because
> those are fishing prices. Very rarely will you actually sell a game for
> more or the same as the NIB price was. Unless you happen to own one of
> the 3 games that actually went up since the NIB prices.

My Tron LE obviously went way over the $5300 it cost me. SM was my next
highest paid NIB at $4100....no loser there either. POTC, FG, and LOTR
were all well under $4000 new...no loss there either.
All I'm saying is that you cannot make a blanket statement that you
ALWAYS lose money on a NIB game. If you buy the right games and keep
them looking like the day they came out of the box the opposite is true.
And I'm not talking about not playing them...I'm talking about
maintaining them and adding protectors wherever possible.


--
Detroitboy

There's no way I pushed that game hard enough to tilt

[edcianci]

still surprises me that elvis just didn't do it for you - i must be
blinded by the fact i wish i was a teenager in the 50's.

indiana jones was the only one i just tried so hard to like - it had
one good thing - 8 ball multiballl - otherwise it just stunk

surprise game i liked a lot and it's cheap is high roller casino

thanks ed

[KAPSIG1]

No regrets


--
KAPSIG1

[yetterben]

TF PRO. Build quality was subpar and many many other issues. Wish i had
just held my cash. Would have been more upset had i purchased a LE:mad:


--
yetterben

[yzrider926]

I've bought a few NIB pins and can't say I really regret anything. I am
in the camp that says you shouldn't be buying pins as investments or
expecting to make all your money back when you sell it, especially when
you buy new.

I bought all of my current pins to play and enjoy, and all of them have
provided me and others entertainment so they have served their purpose.
I also don't fall into the group of players that are really good. This
probably has something to do with it, as there is still a lot for me to
see and do with my current games.


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yzrider926

[jediturtle]

mr tobias;1919005 Wrote:

This isn't a rip on you personally as I've seen people say this before.
So how well did it go over when those exact things were removed from the
game to create the Costco version? People were all up in arms about it
and it is thought of as one of the worse things Stern ever did. Yet
people always say how useless those things were. Just doesn't add up!
:)


--
jediturtle

[Jonny O]

On Apr 7, 4:45 pm, Baraka <grus...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Curious,
>
> What is the top list of newer Stern pins that you totally regret
> buying from Stern and why?

WoF camp strangely quiet in this thread...

I played IJ4 at pinburgh and I didn't think it was all that bad. It
would make a great pingolf pin with the magic swordsmen shot.

[pinball neophyte]

On Apr 9, 10:54 am, nwojedi <nwoj...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Detroitboy;1918981 Wrote:
>
>
>
> > You must have seriously overpaid for you FG if its worth less now than
> > when it was new.  The value of my NIB FG, SM, POTC, LOTR and TRON LE
> > is all above what I paid for them new.  You better find a new dealer
> > to use.
>
> Based on what?  The prices people try and ask for on here?  Because
> those are fishing prices.  Very rarely will you actually sell a game for
> more or the same as the NIB price was.  Unless you happen to own one of
> the 3 games that actually went up since the NIB prices.
>
> --
> nwojedi
>
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Interested in what is considered the pinball machines that went up in
price - assuming you are referring to SS machines?
CC, MM, BBB, maybe CV?

[pinfan]

i agree... spot on... RESEARCH your seller.. shop it around, and
you wont really loose out.

Game i regret buying NIB? .... TRON.... Lord have mercy.... that game
sucks. But back to the first point... I got it for a nice price NIB
and traded for a game i really like and is a keeper and worth the same
price.

[Tim N.]

I think a lot of us in the WoF camp (myself included) were willing to
roll the dice on a NIB shipped to our doors for 2600. ZERO regrets on
that, unfinished software and all. If the software actually got
finished, I would be looking very seriously for another one, it is a
great game that is very different then a lot of the newer stuff being
made.

[Frank Furhter]

KAPSIG1 wrote:
> No regrets

How about every single one?
I can only guess, since I don't own one.

[nwojedi]

Detroitboy;1920214 Wrote:
> My Tron LE obviously went way over the $5300 it cost me. SM was my next
> highest paid NIB at $4100....no loser there either. POTC, FG, and LOTR
> were all well under $4000 new...no loss there either.
> All I'm saying is that you cannot make a blanket statement that you
> ALWAYS lose money on a NIB game. If you buy the right games and keep
> them looking like the day they came out of the box the opposite is true.
> And I'm not talking about not playing them...I'm talking about
> maintaining them and adding protectors wherever possible.

Try selling them once. LOTR and Tron might be higher, people ask for
more on the others, but good luck getting good money for a POTC or FG.
SM maybe, but there are a ton of them out there.

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[Gary Martin]

On Saturday, April 7, 2012 6:45:29 PM UTC-5, Baraka wrote:
> Curious,
>
> What is the top list of newer Stern pins that you totally regret
> buying from Stern and why?

Fellow I help out with owns a bar that he buys pins for. His biggest regret is paying full NIB price for a Stern NBA.

[AAPIN]

On Saturday, April 7, 2012 8:00:12 PM UTC-7, Abby Normal wrote:

> On Saturday, April 7, 2012 4:45:29 PM UTC-7, Baraka wrote:
> > Curious,
> >
> > What is the top list of newer Stern pins that you totally regret
> > buying from Stern and why?
>

> Buying NIB is over all a waste of money. You lose money the second you open the box. And buying a game you've never seen or played is stupid, IMHO.
>
> I own one Stern, a Family Guy. Didn't buy it new, but it's close, but I paid about have what you'd pay just to have privilege of opening the box.
>
> It's one of Sterns few good newer games. Most of them are just like a broken record.
>
> I've been playing a lot of BBB lately (duh), and it's better than anything Stern has aver made.

I don't feel I wasted any money on my NIB BSM. Now had I purchased a WOF I might feel a bit differently.

[jediturtle]

jonny o;1920419 Wrote:

> On Apr 7, 4:45*pm, Baraka <grus... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
> > Curious,
> >
> > What is the top list of newer Stern pins that you totally regret
> > buying from Stern and why?
>
> WoF camp strangely quiet in this thread...
>
> I played IJ4 at pinburgh and I didn't think it was all that bad. It
> would make a great pingolf pin with the magic swordsmen shot.

That's because those of us who gave WoF a fair chance do not regret it
at all. The ones that usually whine about Wheel are the ones that never
got to know it. I did recently move mine on to a friend, but enjoyed it
greatly for the 3+ years I had it. It was just time for a change, but
thankfully it's somewhere I can still go play it! :)


--
jediturtle

[Pinballed]

I loved WoF. I sold it sure, but I want another. It stayed longer than
STTNG did...

[Fattrain]

Transformers LE was my biggest regret but I didn't lose much and enjoyed
it for the few months i had it.


--
Fattrain

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Current Lineup: SM-LE, LOTR, TSPP, TRON LE, JP, JM(#1), HyperPin

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